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I would be a very good idea to have an election for a ''fictional'' canadian president as this is more easy with the PM4E+P with Canada's provinces.

The electoral college distribution could be:

Newfoundland & Labrador:4=40

Nova Scotia:6=60

P.E.I:1=10

New Brunswick:5=50

Québec:20=200

Ontario:24=240

Manitoba:8=80

Saskatchewan:6=60

Alberta:14=140

BC:16=160

Yukon:1=10

NWT:1=10

Nunavut:1=10

Total=107=1070

The seats for the primairies will be the electoral college seats multiplied by 10.

The primairies elections for all parties will be all by proportionnal system for all parties.

For the candidates (this is only to give a general idea and you are free to add some more):

Note: There are some far-fetch candidates!

CONSERVATIVES:

Stephen Harper

Peter MacKay

Jim Prentice

Maxime Bernier

Stockwell Day

Bernard Lord

Mike Harris

Jean Charest

John Tory

Jim Flaherty

Ralph Klein

Etc....

LIBERALS

Stéphane Dion

Michael Ignatieff

Bob Rae

Dalton McGuinty

Bill Graham

Gerard Kennedy

Ken Dryden

Shawn Graham

Etc....

NDP

Jack Layton

Bill Blaikie

Svend Robinson (?)

Thomas Mulclair

Lorne Calvert

Carole James

Gary Doer

Etc....

BLOC QUÉBÉCOIS Could be with an alliance with somebody else?

Gilles Duceppe

Bernard Landry

Pauline Marois

André Boisclair

Etc....

GREENS

Elizabeth May

Jim Harris

David Suzuki (Could also be an Independant)

Frank de Jong

Jane Sterk

Adriane Carr

Etc....

INDEPENDANTS

André Arthur (Independant-Libetarian?)

Any ideas?

I am waiting for your feedback! :D

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No, Jean Charest is the leader of the Quebec Liberal Party. He's still more of a Conservative. Basically, the Quebec Liberal Party is a Federalist Coalition to take on the Parti Quebecois who want Quebec to separate from Canada. At one time Charest, was actually leader of the Federal Progressive Conservative Party.

As a side note as well, I would leave off the Bloc. Their goal is just to stand up for Quebec and not to actually take control of the government. It would probably just mess up the Majority Rule and end up going to Parliament. (If we were following the American system). Right now, the Canadian Parliament is deadlocked in a Minority situation and it has a lot to do with the Block.

If you guys need any help I'm in as well.

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Hows the congressional majority gonna work. Its important condisering there probably won't be a majority by anyone.

I think it is possible to have a majority if the Bloc is not present:

For exemple if you take the score at the last election:

Newfoundland and Labrador=Liberal=4

P.E.I=Liberal=1

Nova Scotia=Liberal=6

New Brunswick=Liberal=5

Québec=Conservative=20

Ontario=Liberal=24

Manitoba=Conservative=8

Saskatchewan=Conservative=6

Alberta=Conservative=14

British Colombia=Conservative=16

Yukon=Liberal=1

NWT=NDP=1

Nunavut=Liberal=1

The total is:

Conservative:64

Liberal=42

NDP=1

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Is anyone going to do this? I was considering doing Manitoba with the American system, aloting one electoral vote for each riding won. I may go on to doing this. I also have a Winnipeg 2010 one in the works. I have the Winnipeg one playable, but i haven't done many issue positions or polling numbers. I may do this when I get around to it. I was also condidering doing a Canada-US Union one. Does anyone have any ideas for any of these, especially the Manitoba 2011 one?

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As I am Canadian and I lived in Winnipeg from 1996 to 1998, I maybe have ideas for candidates for your Manitoba Scenario.

NDP:

Gary Doer

Bill Blaikie

Pat Martin

Stan Struthers

Greg Selinger

PC:

Hugh McFadyen

Gary Filmon

Vic Toews

Rod Bruinooge

Stuart Murray

Steven Fletcher

Bonnie Mitchelson

Bob Senff

Liberal:

Lloyd Axworthy

Reg Alcock

Anita Neville

Tina Keeper

Raymond Simard

For the US-Canadian union, I think that's a VERY good idea! I Look forward to it! :D

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As I am Canadian and I lived in Winnipeg from 1996 to 1998, I maybe have ideas for candidates for your Manitoba Scenario.

NDP:

Gary Doer

Bill Blaikie

Pat Martin

Stan Struthers

Greg Selinger

PC:

Hugh McFadyen

Gary Filmon

Vic Toews

Rod Bruinooge

Stuart Murray

Steven Fletcher

Bonnie Mitchelson

Bob Senff

Liberal:

Lloyd Axworthy

Reg Alcock

Anita Neville

Tina Keeper

Raymond Simard

For the US-Canadian union, I think that's a VERY good idea! I Look forward to it! :D

Thanks, but I'm not really sure for the Conservatives on Filmon and Murray. They both have become semi-non existant after they stepped down as leaders. Also, since it's a 2011 scenario, I figure this will probably be Doer's last term and the door will probably open for another MLA like Struthers, Selinger, or another guy I've heardm ight be a contender, Gord Macintosh. I also like your idea of adding some MP's and other notable party figures since there aren't really that many for any office. I would probably also add someone like Jon Gerrard ot the lIberals (he's their leader now) and maybe Sma Katz to the Conservatives (he's a pretty popular mayor in Winnipeg.

Right now, I'm trying to finish up Winnipeg 2010. Winnipeg is hard because there is really no municipal party structure and it is very hard to find candidates. The Canada-US union is probably really far away and I might not get to it because I'm really busy right now.

On a side note, I think for the Canadian President you really have to use the BQ. Just because they amy not win does not mean anything. I think this could be solved with a easy congresional majority system. The majority would be which party controls the province at the provincial government level. Also, if you don't want the BQ you can just turn them off

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Is anyone going to do this? I was considering doing Manitoba with the American system, aloting one electoral vote for each riding won. I may go on to doing this. I also have a Winnipeg 2010 one in the works. I have the Winnipeg one playable, but i haven't done many issue positions or polling numbers. I may do this when I get around to it. I was also condidering doing a Canada-US Union one. Does anyone have any ideas for any of these, especially the Manitoba 2011 one?

I think the US-Canada union is a VERY good idea. You would probably get help from me and many others if you chose to do it.

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For the Canadian Presidential scenario somebody had done it for the original President Forever:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/146436-...fCanada2004.zip

For the US-Canadian Union:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/154862-...merica-2008.zip

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/154862-...merica-2008.zip (With other North American countries)

The Readme and description is as follows:

ULTIMATE UNITED NORTH AMERICA 2008

In this scenario, the United States, Canada, Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean have become one nation. Canada’s economy collapsed in 2005 and the only choice was to be absorbed into the United States. Canada amid protest signed the deal in February 2006. Prime Minister Paul Martin and President George W. Bush were the signatories. Vicente Fox Mexico’s president also signed on alone with the rest of the nations in December 2007. Cuba held out until being politely threatened with a nuclear strike. After this Fidel Castro was quite willing to sign on. After Congressional elections were held in late 2007 the seats totals were dead even amongst the four parties. There are 783 Electoral votes in the new nation. 392 EV are needed to win or the election will go to the bitterly divided House of Representatives.

ELECTORAL VOTES FOR THE CANADIAN STATES:

British Columbia – 8

Alberta – 6

Saskatchewan – 3

Manitoba – 3

Ontario – 19

Quebec – 13

Newfoundland – 3

New Brunswick – 3

Nova Scotia – 3

Prince Edward Island -3

Yukon – 3

Northwest Territories – 3

Nunavut -3

ELECTORAL VOTES MEXICO:

Chihuahua-Coahuila – 23

Hidalgo-Colima – 29

Federal District of Mexico – 20

Yucatan-Chiapas – 28

OTHER STATES:

Central America – 35

Cuba – 15

Spanish Main – 23

Puerto Rico - 5

The following are excerpts from the Treaty of Union between Canada and the U.S. Signed on February 16, 2006:

CANADIAN DEMANDS:

- The Yukon, Northwest Territories and Nunavut, amalgamated into the Canadian Arctic, be given statehood despite their small population. They will be allotted 3EV. The rationale for this was to give Canada more of a say during an election.

- No term limits for Presidents.

- As long as citizens, who have not been born in Canada and the U.S., have held citizenship for 20 years, they may run for the Presidency.

U.S. DEMANDS:

- U.S. political system be adopted.

- Scrap the monarchy.

- No Distinct status for Quebec (Secession will mean war!)

- Congressional elections will be held immediately November 2006.

The remainder of the countries in the new Republic signed the Pact Americana Treaty on December 28, 2007.

UNITED NORTH AMERICA PARTIES AND CANDIDATES:

Democratic

Bill Clinton

Hillary Clinton

Paul Martin

Jean Chretien

Al Gore

Al Sharpton

Evan Bayh

Howard Dean

John Kerry

John Edwards

Joe Lieberman

Nancy Pelosi

Richard Gephardt

Wesley Clark

Zell Miller

Sheila Copps

Anne McLellan

Bill Richardson

Bob Kerrey

Joe Biden

Ted Kennedy

Tom Daschle

Barrack Obama

Oprah Winfrey

Ben Affleck

Alec Baldwin

Jesse Jackson

Jesse Jackson Jr.

Al Franken

Charles Schumer

Bill Bradley

Ed Rendell

Tom Vilsack

Blanche Lincoln

Harold Ford Jr.

Mark Warner

Mary Landrieu

Bill Nelson

Janet Napolitano

Jennifer Granholm

Rod Blagojevich

Russ Feingold

Chris Dodd

Gavin Newsom

Kathleen Sebelius

Jefe Cuauhtemoc Cardenas

Sila Maria Calderon

Anibal Vila

Republican

George W. Bush

Jeb Bush

Rudy Giuliani

John McCain

Bill Frist

Condolezza Rice

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Michael Peroutka

George Pataki

Stephen Harper

Stockwell Day

Ron Gray

Alan Keyes

Pat Robertson

Mr. T

Sylvester Stallone

Pat Buchanan

Anne Coulter

Oliver North

Tom Ridge

John Ashcroft

Sean Hannity

Mel Gibson

Rush Limbaugh

Donald Rumsfeld

Gary Bauer

Elizabeth Dole

Dan Quayle

Trent Lott

Paul Cellucci

Bob Taft

Mitt Romney.txt

Bill Owens

Mark Sanford

Rick Santorum

Chuck Hagel

Sam Brownback

George Allen

Preston Manning

Mike Harris

Deborah Grey

Tony Clement

John Reynolds

Ralph Klein

Vicente Fox

Pedro Rossello

Tom DeLay

Norm Coleman

Socialist Party

Ralph Nader

Dennis Kucinich

Jack Layton

David Cobb

Gilles Duceppe

Jim Harris

Michael Moore

Peter Camejo

Sheila Copps

Bill Blaikie

Ted Turner

Jane Fonda

Svend Robinson

Lorne Nystrom

Alexa McDonough

Bruce Springsteen

George Soros

Subcommadante Marcos

Fidel Castro

Raul Castro

Manuel Noriega

Noam Chomsky

American Progressive Party

Jesse Ventura

Peter MacKay

Joe Clark

David Orchard

Ian McClelland

Scott Brison

Belinda Stronach

Jim Prentice

Michael Badnarik

Jean Charest

Arlen Specter

Ross Perot

Michael Bloomberg

Donald Trump

Bill O’Reilly

Colin Powell

Steven Forbes

Brian Mulroney

Francisco Labastida

Somebody had also done something of an union between the US, the UK, Canada (excluding Québec), Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Israel:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/159595-...sident-2008.zip

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For the Canadian Presidential scenario somebody had done it for the original President Forever:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/146436-...fCanada2004.zip

For the US-Canadian Union:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/154862-...merica-2008.zip

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/154862-...merica-2008.zip (With other North American countries)

The Readme and description is as follows:

Somebody had also done something of an union between the US, the UK, Canada (excluding Québec), Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Israel:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/159595-...sident-2008.zip

Are these all the 2004 files, or are any of them the new ones?

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For the Canadian Presidential scenario somebody had done it for the original President Forever:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/146436-...fCanada2004.zip

For the US-Canadian Union:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/154862-...merica-2008.zip

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/154862-...merica-2008.zip (With other North American countries)

The Readme and description is as follows:

Somebody had also done something of an union between the US, the UK, Canada (excluding Québec), Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Israel:

http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/159595-...sident-2008.zip

The thought of that scenarion make my mouth water. We all need to get together and make this for '08.

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How did you come up with the electoral college numbers?

I came up with an alternate plan based on adding the number of Senators in each province with their Members of Parliament:

British Columbia- 42

Alberta- 34

Saskatchewan- 20

Manitoba- 20

Ontario- 130

Quebec- 99

New Brunswick- 20

Nova Scotia- 21

Prince Edward Island- 8

Newfoundland- 13

Nunavut- 2

Northwest Territories- 2

Yukon- 2

That's a total of 413 electoral college votes, with 207 as the magic number. It's impossible to win without Ontario or Quebec.

I think the Bloc would be a non-factor, as I doubt they would contest the national presidential election. They would likely remain a strong force in the legislative branch, but that would be largely irrelevant to this scenario. I would probably create a minor sovereigntist candidate with ballot access only in Quebec as a sort of protest candidate. In the event that an election goes to Congress, I would either set Quebec to vote for the protest candidate or the Liberals (through the Bloc abstaining).

As for the primary schedule, I think that Quebec would be first as a way to maximize their influence.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts.

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I do something like that for 2008, but with a different map who cut some province in 2-3 or 4 part. I also play with the number of senators for try to be fair with the western provinces versus the atlantic provinces.

British Columbia - 27

Greater Vancouver - 17

North Alberta - 16

South Alberta - 17

Saskatchewan - 22

Manitoba - 22

Northern Ontario - 14

Eastern Ontario - 31

Central Ontario - 31

Southern Ontario - 31

East Toronto - 15

West Toronto - 16

Northern Quebec - 21

Western Quebec - 27

Eastern Quebec - 27

Montreal-Laval - 28

New Brunswick- 20

Nova Scotia- 21

Prince Edward Island- 8

Newfoundland- 13

Nunavut- 2

Northwest Territories- 2

Yukon- 2

For a total of : 430 electoral votes

I work of this scenario during some time but a have some difficulty with the numbers (like % in primaries or in election)

Candidates :

Liberal :

Jean Chrétien

Bob Rae

Stephane Dion

Paul Martin

Justin Trudeau

Denis Coderre (look like a favorite son of Quebec)

Micheal Ignatieff

Gerald Kennedy

Conservative :

Stephen Harper

Lawrence Cannon

Peter MacKay

NDP :

Jack Layton

Thomas Mulcair

Green :

Elizabeth May

Bloc Quebecois :

Gilles Duceppe

All other candidates propositions can be considered (like NDP, Green, Bloc*) :)

* - Maybe i add some PQ actual of pass leader (Bouchard, Parizeau, Boiclair, Landry and maybe Pierre-Marc Johnson.

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