Scenarios in the Planning Stages...

[gopprogressive]

Here are mine:

Moderate Democracy Rally (MDR), Progressive Workers' Party (PWP) or Opnosis Labour Party (OLP)

Conservative, or Federalist (have logos)

Liberal (have logo)

Social Democratic and Green (have logo)

Racial Demographics:

White 50%

Black: 25%

Mixed 15%

Asian 10%

Issues:

Alexandria Alliance

Binge Drinking

Crime

Development

Education

Environment

Financial Crisis

Healthcare

Immigration

Jobs

Language

Monarchy

National Defense

Public Pensions

Race Riots

Social Issues

Tax and Spend

Terror Laws

[gopprogressive]

So what party name do you want for the pro-monarchist labour party?

[matvail2002]

I have a few ideas for both parties:

First for the Labour and Monarchist party:

Moderate Democratic Forum

Progressive Commonwealth Party

United Labour Party

Liberal Progressive Alliance

Democratic Forum

Liberal Progressive Party

Labour Progressive Party

Second, for the Conservative and pro-Republic party:

Federalist Party

Republican Alliance

Democratic Republican Party

Republic and Progress

Rally for the Republic

Alliance for Reform

National Alliance for the Republic

National Reformist Republican Alliance

[EGaffney]

The choice of name really depends on why the Socialists want a monarchy. I can't think of any socialist parties that identify with the pro-monarchy side in a live constitutional debate, because the monarchy was traditionally affiliated to the aristocrats, i.e. employers and landowners. I'd choose one of the generic names rather than an explicitly monarchist name.

[matvail2002]

The choice of name really depends on why the Socialists want a monarchy. I can't think of any socialist parties that identify with the pro-monarchy side in a live constitutional debate, because the monarchy was traditionally affiliated to the aristocrats, i.e. employers and landowners. I'd choose one of the generic names rather than an explicitly monarchist name.

This is how I might see it (I am maybe wrong), the more left-wing party could be more close to the UK and the Commonwealth and the more right-wing party wants to have closer ties (free trade?) to the US.

[gopprogressive]

Well, you'll have to ask Treasurer, he came up with the concept.

[Treasurer]

It was just really an idea of an inverse situation, which would beinteresting. Taking into account of the previous comments. My idea would be, to have a corrupt socialist party that has been bribed with money to support the monarchy. The Conservatives were previously allied with the Monarchy, but there is now bad blood over powers the Monarchy have, with constitutional changes in land ownership and moral principles such as marriage. I'm really thinking now, this would be best set in a time period like the 18th or 19th century, a time when the monarchy mattered more, and they had more power than the Government. Perhaps the Socialist would agree with some aspects of the Monarchy, like abolition of slavery, but the Conservatives wholeheartedly disagree. So the ecology party will need a new name and a new idealism!

[gopprogressive]

Well, this could be set in a fictional "micronation." We could put the "Socialists" as being more Tony Blair/New Labour/Third Way types- and perhaps explaining the spoiling of relations with the Monarchy has occurred because a mulatto chap (of a different) has become the monarch and who has endorsed social reforms.

Anyways, I could also use a map for the islands...

[Treasurer]

Well, this could be set in a fictional "micronation." We could put the "Socialists" as being more Tony Blair/New Labour/Third Way types- and perhaps explaining the spoiling of relations with the Monarchy has occurred because a mulatto chap (of a different) has become the monarch and who has endorsed social reforms.

Anyways, I could also use a map for the islands...

Are you still interested in the 5 island map I have already made? Or do you want a new one with more islands?

[gopprogressive]

Are you still interested in the 5 island map I have already made? Or do you want a new one with more islands?

That might work. Can I see it?

[Treasurer]

As of now, I won't be making any more release dates for scenarios, they will come soon or soon enough!

I will now be solely focusing on the "Best British PM", for which the biggest part (ridings) has been completed. Plus helping other users scenarios.

After that: Solely focusing on Glasgow Hillhead 1982 by-election. plus " " " " ".

Then: Finland 2007/Scotland 2015

Remaining scenarios in progress will be "delayed", to make way for:

The continuation of the Career series. Checking my old priority poll, this is second only to European nation elections. I will be doing the last 2 scenarios of the first stage, onwards to the council ward by-election, which I already have a name for, which is fictional, called Milton Wirral, situated in the west midlands. I had thought about doing 3 different by-elections, one from the north, south and so on, but I've ditched that. Then, I will be doing the council leader election taking place inside the council hall of chambers.

[matvail2002]

A local fictional election will be a good thing to see.

In the beginning of may, I will begin to work on a fictional municipal/regional scenario based on my region but with more ideological parties.

BTW, is a accurate version (with the polls and such) of the general UK election is coming soon?

[Treasurer]

A local fictional election will be a good thing to see.

In the beginning of may, I will begin to work on a fictional municipal/regional scenario based on my region but with more ideological parties.

BTW, is a accurate version (with the polls and such) of the general UK election is coming soon?

Sounds good. I haven't contributed to the election 2010 scenario yet, but if GOP wants a hand with it, then he's welcome to it.

[Patine]

A local county council scenario I'd really like to see you do, Treasurer, if you ever find the time, is Cornwall, with Mebyon Kernow running as a serious contender.

[Treasurer]

Reminds me of an old thread. Never got my hands on that scenario though...

http://80soft.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6278&st=0&p=114182&hl=Mebyon%20Kernow%20&fromsearch=1entry114182

I haven't really considered doing county council, as I'm already spoiled for choice in the regional/city councils, but if there is demand for it, I can perhaps fit in a county council, but only after I have finished the ones already on my list.

Update on Best British PM: I've finished on deciding what issues to put in, and issue statements. I have also finished the endorsers, only 4, quite an interesting selection I think, they're not newspapers. What's left is: finishing off regional centers, candidate platforms & descriptions, and maybe events.

[matvail2002]

Is this Cornwall election available somewhere?

[Treasurer]

Best British PM scenario has now reached the playtesting stage!

[Kauai]

labellainvites@aol.com

Thanks!

I'll be sure to give results of my test plays.

[Patine]

I'll try it. You know my e-mail address.

[Treasurer]

Sent.

Only thing not finished are candidate descriptions. Unlike me to leave them till last. Only the Top 4, I have completed.

Had to delay sending, as:

I wanted to weaken some candidates further, downgrading their candidate strengths in regions they have stood as an MP in.

Improved Stanley Baldwin's chances of winning more than 1 seat in his home region (South Midlands).

Decrease the percentages for the goals of the top rung of candidates. It seems impossible for Churchill to get 20%, even with well over 250 seats.

[RFK/JFKfan]

Can you please send me a copy too?

w.smith405@btinternet.com

[thetrotsky]

id love to playtest

thewhorock93@hotmail.co.uk

[Patine]

A bit of feedback from opening the first turn.

How did you decide beginning %'s, especially regionally? As all these gentlemen (and lady) have never run against each other all together, what formula did you use?

Shouldn't Blair be in Durham and Thatcher in West London (I couldn't tell you if the rest are right), or are they based where they were born, not where they ran?

Starting a game as David Lloyd George, and it looks like it'll be an uphill battle to get my election goal, especially with Churchill's immence strength and the vast competition. I'm not really sure how to arrange seat targetting just yet.

I'll post later with more.

[matvail2002]

I would be interested to take a look at it as I made earlier a scenario similar to that in scope.

matvail2002 at gmail.com

[Treasurer]

The goals were a rough version apart from Churchill and Attlee.

I've now finished all candidate descriptions. I've updated the Earl Grey candidate photo as the initial one wasn't very clear. Changed the goals especially for Lloyd George, now down to 55 seats and 9%. Thatcher down 1%.

For Lloyd George target South Wales (Central and North possibly if you are losing seats), Greater Manchester, and the english Liberal strongholds of Bristol and South, and Cornwall. The next 3 regions where you have a decent chance is West London, Birmingham and Surrey, Kent and Sussex. That's because the Conservative vote can split between Churchill and Thatcher, and George can run through the middle.

All candidates begin from the region they were born. It's what I have done with previous scenarios such as the leadership elections. AQ couple of candidates have stood in 4 different regions, 4 different seats like William Gladstone, and it would be just much more linear to have them situated in their regions of birth. Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh.

I thought if done probably, a poll charting the best PM's, would be a pretty close run. The establishment of the candidates from 5 to 2, is pretty well spaced out as regard as to the calibre of the candidates we have here. the Top 5 have an establishment of 5, and so on. Candidates below the top 4, only do well in regions they have represented or were born there. Candidates within the top 4 would also do well in areas where their party perform better than average in recent times, however the top candidates can do well in neighbouring regions too, such as George in central Wales (born in North Wales). This applies perhaps only to the top 3, whereas most areas in the north would ot fair very well for Thatcher, apart from NI. However she does quite well in the 2 south east regions she has never represented. When it comes to areas with no favouritism, usually the top 2 candidates would fight it out unless there is an especially strong Lib Dem presence or it's once again in the south east.

I also made Scotland to look like it's voting differently, especially on the Liberal scale, as we have 1 Liberal candidate who was both born and was seated there (Bannerman), and Asquith, who was an MP in the Strathclyde region for a few years. However, the anti-Conservative sentiment does not show as much, because Churchill is pre-Thatcher, and some voters may only know as the PM who led Britain to win the Second World War, and not know he was a tory. So the former Con strongholds like Grampian and Tayside hold up.

When I was doing the ridings I would also look at the 2005 results for that specific seat, and start from the figures there. I felt Churchill, being that he is the leader in my scenario anyway, that he would overpower Attlee in marginal Labour seats, but also take into account if smaller candidates may take away some of that Labour vote. For instance take South Yorkshire, I have Wilson and Asquith in one of their strongest regions, so that is going to split up the vote, mostly the Labour vote, making way for Churchill to win the seat, without the added advantage that he is the most popular in the vote nationally. Hope that helps.

I hope to have this officially finished after more testplaying soon.

I'm going to renew some of my old scenarios for the 2010 version with the new previous election data file. I'll probably start with the smaller ones first. I may do more to improve the scenario, as I've noticed the fundraising in my early scenarios are too generous, plus I played the Edinburgh 1974 one not too long ago, and it's way too easy, at least with the Tories, so I'll have maybe both a renewed 2005 &2010 link.