Trevor Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Development of the 1964 Scenario will happen here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 Republican candidates Barry Goldwater Senator from Arizona Age: 55 PIP: 25 How well established: 5 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 4 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 2 Debating: 3 Nelson Rockefeller Governor from New York Age: 56 PIP: 25 How well established: 5 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 2 Integrity: 3 Experience: 4 Issue Familiarity: 4 Charisma: 4 Stamina: 3 Debating: 4 William Scranton Governor from Pennsylvania Age: 47 PIP: 15 How well established: 3 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 2 Integrity: 3 Experience: 2 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 2 Stamina: 4 Debating: 3 Hiram Fong Senator from Hawaii Age: 58 PIP: 10 How well established: 2 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 2 Integrity: 3 Experience: 3 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 2 Stamina: 2 Debating: 2 George Romney Governor from Michigan Age: 57 PIP: 10 How well established: 1 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 2 Issue Familiarity: 2 Charisma: 4 Stamina: 3 Debating: 3 Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. Former Senator from Massachusetts Age: 62 PIP: 10 How well established: 2 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 4 Integrity: 4 Experience: 1 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 3 Debating: 4 Walter Judd Congressman from Minnesota Age: 66 PIP: 10 How well established: 1 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 2 Integrity: 3 Experience: 2 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 2 Debating: 2 Margaret Chase Smith Senator from Maine Age: 67 PIP: 10 How well established: 1 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 4 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 4 Stamina: 3 Debating: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 LINKS!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presiden..._election,_1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 Democratic Candidates Lyndon Baines Johnson President from Texas Age: 56 PIP: 25 How well established: 5 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 4 Integrity: 3 Experience: 4 Issue Familiarity: 3 Charisma: 4 Stamina: 3 Debating: 3 George Corley Wallace Governor from Alabama Age: 45 PIP: 15 How well established: 4 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 3 Integrity: 4 Experience: 3 Issue Familiarity: 4 Charisma: 3 Stamina: 4 Debating: 3 Robert Francis Kennedy US Attorney General from New York Age: 39 PIP: 15 How well established: 2 Language Bonus: -1 Leadership: 4 Integrity: 5 Experience: 2 Issue Familiarity: 4 Charisma: 5 Stamina: 5 Debating: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Bill Scranton Photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 Thank you so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHorberg Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 List of governors: Alabama- George Wallace (D) Alaska- William A. Egan (D) Arizona- Paul Jones Fannin ® Arkansas- Orval Faubus ® California- Edmund Brown (D) Colorado- John Love ® Connecticut- John Dempsey (D) Delaware- Elbert Carvel (D) Florida- C. Ferris Bryant (D) Georgia- Carl Sanders (D) Hawaii- John Burns (D) Idaho- Robert E. Smylie ® Illinois- Otto Kerner (D) Indiana- Matthew Welsh (D) Iowa- Harold Hughes (D) Kansas- John Anderson ® Kentucky- Edward T. Breathitt (D) Louisiana- John J. McKeithen (D) Maine- John Reed ® Maryland- J. Millard Tawes (D) Massachusetts- Endicott Peabody (D) Michigan- George Romney ® Minnesota- Karl Rolvaag (D) Mississippi- Paul Johnson (D) Missouri- John Dalton (D) Montana- Tim M. Babcock ® Nebraska- Frank B. Morrison (D) Nevada- Grant Sawyer (D) New Hampshire- John W. King (D) New Jersey- Richard J. Hughes (D) New Mexico- Jackson Campbell (D) New York- Nelson Rockefeller ® North Carolina- Terry Sanford (D) North Dakota- William Guy (D) Ohio- James Rhodes ® Oklahoma- Harry Bellmon ® Oregon- Mark Hetfield ® Pennsylvania- William Scranton ® Rhode Island- John Hubbard Chafee ® South Carolina- Donald Stuart Russell (D) South Dakota- Archie M. Gubbrud ® Tennessee- Frank G. Clement (D) Texas- John Connally (D) Utah- George Dewey Clyde ® Vermont- Phillip Hoff (D) Virginia- Albert Harrison (D) Washington- Albert D. Rosellini (D) West Virginia- William Wallace Barron (D) Wisconsin- John W. Reynolds (D) Wyoming- Clifford P. Hansen ® I also have some suggestions for endorsers Barry Goldwater- Paul Fannin- Governor of Arizona. Ran for Goldwater’s seat in 1964. When Goldwater returned to the Senate Fannin voted with him on almost all issues. Prescott Bush Herbert Hoover Ronald Reagan Robert Kennedy Phillip Hoff- 1st Democratic governor of Vermont since 1854. His victory had a little help from JFK’s popularity in his state. First Democratic governor to split with LBJ over the Vietnam War, went on to campaign for RFK in 1968. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Good work!!! Do you mean crusaders for the rest of them? Anyway, for more crusaders: Robert Francis Kennedy: Ted Kennedy Lyndon Johnson: Lady Bird Johnson William A Blakely (The man who replaced Johnson in the Senate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarnstrom54014 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I believe that the photo above of George Wallace is actually his son George Wallace Jr. who ran for Lieutenant Governor of Alabama last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 I believe that the photo above of George Wallace is actually his son George Wallace Jr. who ran for Lieutenant Governor of Alabama last year. I'm not sure if it is or not - if you can find a photo that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 New candidates to add James F. Byrnes (South Carolina, former governor, senator, representative, supreme court justice and secretary of state) Age: 85 PIP: 20 Jim Rhodes (Governor of Ohio) Age: 55 PIP: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 Just waiting on the 1968 scenario still before I move forward with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidanbrack Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I'm not sure if it is or not - if you can find a photo that would be great. It's definitely not. However, a photo can be found here: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nat...rge1_091498.jpg Aidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Just waiting on the 1968 scenario still before I move forward with this. And I'm just waiting on the Dev Team to get back to me about errors, and then I'll finish 1968 You could use our current copy, but since it has a pair of rather hard to get around errors…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taft Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 You might want to add Nixon; though he wasn't a declared candidate, he was hoping for a deadlocked convention between Rocky and Goldwater to be able to emerge at. But he could quite easily have tried declaring, too, though that would probably have not gone so well. Still, it's a very reasonable alternative scenario. Also, he was part of the reason Scranton got into the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share Posted September 9, 2007 Republican Endorsers First Name Last Name State Position George D Aiken Vermont Senator Gordon L Allott Colorado Senator James Glenn Beall Maryland Senator Wallace F Bennett Utah Senator J Caleb Boggs Delaware Senator Frank Carlson Kansas Senator John Sherman Cooper Kentucky Senator Norris Cotton New Hampshire Senator Carl T Curtis Nebraska Senator Everett Dirkson Illinois Senator Peter H Dominick Colorado Senator Hiram L Fong Hawaii Senator Barry Goldwater Arizona Senator Bourke B Hickenlooper Iowa Senator Roman Hruska Nebraska Senator Jacob Javits New York Senator Leonard B Jordan Idaho Senator Kenneth Keating New York Senator Tom Kuchel California Senator Edwin L Mechem New Mexico Senator Jack Miller Iowa Senator Thruston Ballard Morton Indiana Senator Karl Mundt South Dakota Senator James B Pearson Kansas Senator Winston L Prouty Vermont Senator Leverett Saltonstall Massachusetts Senator Hugh Scott Pennsylvania Senator Wilward L Simpson Wyoming Senator Margaret Chase Smith Maine Senator Strom Thurmond South Carolina Senator John Tower Texas Senator John J Williams Delaware Senator Milton R Young North Dakota Senator Paul Jones Fannin Arizona Governor Orval Faubus Arkansas Governor John Lova Colorado Governor Robert E Smylie Idaho Governor John Anderson Kansas Governor John Reed Maine Governor George Romney Michigan Governor Tim M Babcock Montana Governor Nelson Rockefeller New York Governor James Rhodes Ohio Governor Harry Bellmon Oklahoma Governor Mark Hetfield Oregon Governor William Scranton Pennsylvania Governor John H Chafee Rhode Island Governor Archie M Gubbrud South Dakota Governor George Dewey Clyde Utah Governor Clifford P Hanson Wyoming Governor Herbert Hoover California Fmr. President Dwight Eisenhower Pennsylvania Fmr. President Democratic Endorsers First Name Last Name State Position Clinton P Anderson New Mexico Senator Bob Bartlett Alaska Senator Birch Bayh Indiana Senator Alan Bible Nevada Senator Daniel B Brewster Maryland Senator Quentin N Burdick North Dakota Senator Harry F Byrd, Sr. Virginia Senator Howard W Cannon Nevada Senator Frank Church Idaho Senator Joseph S Clark Pennsylvania Senator Thomas J Dodd Connecticut Senator Paul Douglas Illinois Senator James Eastland Mississippi Senator J Howard Edmondson Oklahoma Senator Allen Ellender Louisiana Senator Clair Engle California Senator Sam Ervin North Carolina Senator J William Fulbright Arkansas Senator Albert Gore, Sr. Tennessee Senator Ernest Gruening Alaska Senator Phillip A Hart Michigan Senator Vance Hartke Indiana Senator Carl Hayden Arizona Senator J Lister Hill Alabama Senator Henry M Jackson Washington Senator Olin D Johnston South Carolina Senator B Everett Jordan North Carolina Senator Frank J Lausche Ohio Senator Edward V Long Missouri Senator Russell B Long Louisiana Senator Warren G Magnuson Washington Senator Mike Mansfield Montana Senator Eugene McCarthy Minnesota Senator John L McLellan Arkansas Senator Gale W McGee Wyoming Senator George McGovern South Dakota Senator Thomas J McIntyre New Hampshire Senator Patrick V McNamara Michigan Senator Lee Metcalf Montana Senator Mike Monroney Oklahoma Senator Wayne L Morse Oregon Senator Frank Moss Utah Senator Edmund Muskie Maine Senator Gaylord Nelson Wisconsin Senator Maurine Brown Neuberger Oregon Senator John O Pastore Rhode Island Senator Claiborne Pell Rhode Island Senator William Proxmire Wisconsin Senator Jennings Randolph West Virginia Senator Abraham A Ribicoff Connecticut Senator A Willis Robertson Virginia Senator Richard Russell, Jr Georgia Senator George Smathers Florida Senator John Sparkman Alabama Senator John C Stennis Mississippi Senator Stuart Symington Missouri Senator Herman Talmadge Georgia Senator Herbert S Walters Tennessee Senator Harrison A Williams New Jersey Senator Ralph W Yarborough Texas Senator Stephen M Young Ohio Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson Texas President Hubert Humphrey Minnesota Vice-President Dean Rusk Georgia Sec of State C Douglas Dillon New York Sec of Treasury Robert McNamara California Sec of Defense Robert F Kennedy New York Attorney General John A Gronouski Wisconsin Postmater General Stewart Lee Udall Arizona Sec of Interior Orville L Freeman Minnesota Sec of Agriculture Luther H Hodges North Carolina Sec of Commerce W Willard Wirtz Illinois Sec of Labor Anthony Celebrezze Ohio Sec of Health, Edu. & Welfare Robert C Weaver DC Sec of Housing and Urban Dev. Alan S Boyd Florida Sec of Transportation George Wallace Alabama Governor William A Egan Alaska Governor Edmund Brown California Governor John Dempsey Connecticut Governor Elbert Carvel Delaware Governor C Ferris Bryant Florida Governor Carl Sanders Georgia Governor John Burns Hawaii Governor Otto Kerner Illinois Governor Matthew Welsh Indiana Governor Harold Hughes Iowa Governor Edward T Breathitt Kentucky Governor John J McKeithen Louisiana Governor J Millard Tawes Maryland Governor Endicott Peabody Massachusetts Governor Karl Rolvaag Minnesota Governor Paul Johnson Mississippi Governor John Dalton Missouri Governor Frank B Morrison Nebraska Governor Grant Sawyer Nevada Governor John W King New Hampshire Governor Richard J Hughes New Jersey Governor Jackson Campbell New Mexico Governor Terry Sanford North Carolina Governor William Guy North Dakota Governor Donald S Russell South Carolina Governor Frank G Clement Tennessee Governor John Connally Texas Governor Phillip Hoff Vermont Governor Albert Harrison Virginia Governor Albert D Rosellini Washington Governor William W Barren West Virginia Governor John W Reynolds Wisconsin Governor Harry S Truman Missouri Fmr. 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ElectricMonk Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I'll point out that neither cabinet level secretaries or senators meant much in either momentum or organization. Governors, at least, have an on the ground organization. Leaders of Congress have name ID, regular senators don't and even if they support someone the odds of the people of their state hearing are low and caring are less. I really don't know why cabinet level secretaries would be in there at all. They wouldn't endorse, and Johnson wouldn't let them endorse, and their endorsement would mean nothing. And Hoover, well, he's basically negative momentum . Johnson didn't face a primary challenge, and he wouldn't have endorsed anybody anyway, so he really shouldn't be a endorser (likewise with Humphrey). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share Posted September 9, 2007 Eisenhower - $3 Million, 20 Footsoldiers, 10 momentum Truman - $2 Million, 10 Footsoldiers, 10 momentum Hoover - $500,000, 5 footsoldiers, 2 momentum Governors - $250,000, 2 footsoldiers, 5 momentum Senators - $100,000, 1 footsoldier, 1 momentum President - $1,000,000, 1 footsolider, 10 momentum Vice-President - $500,000, 1 footsoldier, 5 momentum Senior cabinet - $25,000, 1 footsoldier, 1 momentum Junior cabinet - $10,000, 1 footsoldier Why is Johnson in the endorsers? Because if you turn him off he will endorse either Wallace or RFK (if RFK is turned on), same with Humphrey. Johnson and Humphrey will be set to endorse Johnson unless Johnson is not in the race. Cabinet secretaries do not carry a whole lot of weight, but they have sway in Washington, and they have money to donate...especially since they want to keep their jobs. Senators are well known in their states, a local politician endorsing someone will open the doors for a candidate in that state. Note that Governors and Senators are state-wide endorsers, others are national. Johnson didn't face a primary challenge, and he wouldn't have endorsed anybody anyway, so he really shouldn't be a endorser (likewise with Humphrey). Wallace did challenge Johnson and performed quite well, RFK had also been establishing a campaign but decided not to officially enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHorberg Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hoover was a speaker at the 1952, 1956 and 1960 GOP Conventions. Poor health kept him from speaking at the 1964 Convention (he died on October 20th of that year). So apparently he was still pretty popular among Republicans. I also disagree with your characterization of Cabinet members. Some of them had served as elected officials before they were appointed to the Cabinet. For example: Stewart Udall was an Arizona Congressman and also served as his brother Mo's campaign manager for the 1976 presidential primaries. Orville Freeman was the governor of Minnesota. Luther Hodges was was both the lieutenant governor and governor of North Carolina. Anthony Celebrezze was an Ohio State Senator (at a time when only a handful of Democrats were elected to the Ohio Statehouse) and later Mayor of Cleveland. Surely, if these gentlemen were popular enough in their respective states to be elected then it follows that they must have enough momentum on the ground for their endorsements to mean something. However, I would not include Boyd and Weaver as endorsers since the HUD and DoT were not established until 1966. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_bond72 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I can have a copy, if is finish or when you finish it : james_bond72@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricMonk Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I can cave on the Senators (though I think they're unneeded) and Hoover was popular in the Republican base, but let me reiterate one point: the cabinet secretaries (regardless if you think they have personal appeal) would not be allowed to endorse. Simple as that. I don't care if Johnson retires, or isn't running, or is running—his cabinet is his cabinet, and they keep their mouths shut or loudly support Johnson. They could resign to support someone else, but the game can't model that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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