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This includes most of the changes to the game so far. Feedback always appreciated!

To update your game, start President Forever + Primaries and click 'Yes' when prompted to update. Once all the files are downloaded, click 'Ok' and then run President Forever + Primaries again.

v. 1.00.6.3

- Fixed load game bug

v. 1.00.6.2

- 2008 > Fixed Vilsack from Iowa

- 2008 > Bayh to off by default, Charisma to 3

- 2008 > Changed Obama's crusaders

- 2008 > Changed Democratic party primaries percentages in Iowa (lowered Clinton, increase Edwards and Obama)

- 2008 > Changed Iran far-left position

- 2008 > Changed Tucson Daily Star to Arizona Daily Star

- 2004 > changed War On Terror's far-left position

- 2004 > Changed Dennis Kucinich's Abortion position from far-left to left

- 2004 > Changed Tucson Daily Star to Arizona Daily Star

- Candidate Editor > Fixed Established, Leadership, Experience, Integrity, Issue Familiarity, Charisma, Stamina, Debating > go from 1 to 5 instead of 0 to 5

v. 1.00.6.1

- Fixed on load game, Veep correct

- 2008 > Changed general election start date to September 5th, 2008

v. 1.00.6

MAJOR CHANGES

- Reduced memory usage

- Added Candidate Editor, can load from game

- Smaller parties tend not to have such big gains (percent to move calculation uses How Well Known)

- Increased issue profile progress change by 50%

- Added Barnstorming to Policy Speech, can now move when do a Policy Speech

- Fixed unbalanced percentages when other players turned off

- Fixed load game caused Access Violation

- Fixed access violation on save

- Fixed problem with new candidates created in Candidate Editor (modified to allow 0 percentages for candidates)

- 2008 and 2004 > Reduced chances of 'inverted' states in general election

- 2008 > Added Barack Obama, Evan Bayh, Tim Vilsack, Al Gore, and Sam Brownback

- 2008 > Frist and Allen off by default

MINOR CHANGES

- Warning box when save with name of another saved game

- Fixed "Access Violation" on close when starting in General Election

- Fixed issue profiles

- Fixed memory leak

- Fixed list index out of bounds when received offers from more than four players

- Fixed candidate selector in offers list

- Fixed PIPs will always be returned to player if offer not accepted

- Fixed player able to withdraw, endorse, or ask for Veep spot if only player in party

- Fixed breakthroughs not removed properly for deleted players

- Fixed inter-party moving of voters. i.e. 0 InterPartyCoefficient means 0 voters move between parties

- Fixed list index out of bounds error for AutoUpdate button

- Fixed veep appearing in list of possible veeps once has been selected as a veep

- Fixed health cost for Policy Speech. No health or cost was being deducted for this activity

- Fixed Select Focus > for Ads/Policy Speeches, would skip turn player party

- Fixed Select Focus > for research, turn player party will be skipped

- Fixed goals (removed party goals, now just each candidate's goals)

- Added functionality to have list of more than 4 candidates in offers list

- 2008 > parties.xml > Democratic general election block grant to 75,000,000

- 2008 > parties.xml > Warner off by default

- 2008 > parties.xml > Kerry 25 to 15 PIPs

- 2008 > issues.xml > changed "War on Terror" Far-Left position to:

"Terrorism will be reduced if we stop meddling in other country's affairs. Dramatically change our foreign policy."

- 2008 and 2004 > parties.xml > Peroutka and Badnarik homestates corrected

- 2008 > changed Congressional majorities from Republican to Democratic

- 2008 > updated poll closing times

- 2008 > politics_units.xml > updated governors

- 2008 > endorsers.xml > updated governors

- 2008 > parties.xml > Romney to centrist on Abortion, center-right on SSM, center-right on Immigration

- 2008 > endorsers.xml > Massachusetts, second part of Endorsers, the "name" backed Bush in 2004

- 2008 > parties.xml > Democratic and Republican convention dates and locations changed

- 2008 > endorsers.xml > Pawlenty moved to decided for McCain

- 2008 > percentages.xml > Kerry's percentages down a few points

- 2008 > political_units.xml > Immigration's profiles from High to Medium

- 2008 > parties.xml > changed player colors

- 2008 > endorsers.xml > New Jersey newspaper to New Hampshire, removed duplicate Missouri newspaper

- 2008 > parties.xml > added new players as Vice Presidential candidates

v. 1.00.5.1

- Load now checks for compatible version number in save game

- Newer AutoUpdate.exe

- Fixed floating point error

- Fixed list index out of bounds error when click Research button

- Removed second Alabama governor endorser in 2008

v. 1.00.5

MAJOR CHANGES

- Fixed 'List Index Out of Bounds' bug

- Fixed 'Exception Fault' bug

- Fixed load-save bug where endorsers would not function correctly

- Save game automatically adds .sav so can load again if don't add .sav extension to file name

MINOR CHANGES

- First two Primaries/Caucuses have news stories with higher profiles

- 2004 and 2008 endorsers footsoldier chance changed from 50% to 33%

- 2004 and 2008 reduced inter-party voter movement before general election phase

- Modified chance computer player from another party will accept Vice-Presidential offer

- Fixed scandals not being shown correctly

v. 1.00.3

MAJOR CHANGES

- Fixed create scandals bug

- Fixed release scandals bug

- Help file now integrated into game, press F1 or Help buttons

- Main map now displays regions in strategy

- Fixed saving game bug

- Election night now has a fast-forward button and default mode is also quicker

- Election night has option to display message when region is called

- Election night region displays lock if called

- Fixed election night bug with not recognizing new winner if changes after called

- Modified percentage change dynamics for more realistic game play

- Footsoldiers last 30 days

- Changed number of CPs receive in general election

- Changed starting funds for players in 2004, 2008

- Fixed bug playing a game with certain parties on

- Can run ad in all regions in strategy

- Modified computer player endorsement and withdrawal decision making

- Can turn AutoUpdates on or off on start screen

- Computer players better at strategizing

- Momentum affects endorsers

- Can continue as player to whom become Veep or as player in party who wins convention

- Fixed veep not moving properly when barnstorming

- Fixed "List Index Out Of Bounds" bug

- Footsoldiers now cost 5 CPs in general election

- For footsoldier creation, regional momentum/2 added to completion per turn

MINOR CHANGES

- Fixed display error when more than 3 scandals created

- Second governor of Alabama removed in 2004

- Changed governor of New Jersey in 2004

- Fixed far-right position on Affirmative Action in 2004

- Changed several candidates from 'female' to 'male' in 2004, 2008

- Changed Lieberman's colour from light-blue to orange in 2004

- Nader 'party' funds changed from $0 to $100,000 in 2004

- Fixed bug with general election candidates not having a block grant not being able to fundraise

- Fixed bug with computer players spinning news stories when shouldn't be able to

- Reduced chance spy gets caught

- Reduced chance spy help with scandal research during the primaries

- Decreased undecideds in general election to 20% in 2004, 2008

- Main map region abbreviations coloured correctly

- Main map +- correspond to correct poll data, don't show +- if < 0.5 change

- Modified alienated voters to 40% in 2004, 2008

- Changed Democratic starting percentage in Colorado to 48% in 2008

- Change player colours in 2004

- Fixed news story font size bug

- Computer players do issue familiarity and debating more often

- Hide issue familiarity and debating skill bars for other players if don't have spy

- Modifies endorser attributes for 2004, 2008

- Fixed where switching from primaries to general election CPs not right on one day

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This includes most of the changes to the game so far. Feedback always appreciated!

To update your game, start President Forever + Primaries and click 'Yes' when prompted to update. Once all the files are downloaded, click 'Ok' and then run President Forever + Primaries again.

v. 1.00.3

Major Changes

- Fixed create scandals bug

- Fixed release scandals bug

- Help file now integrated into game, press F1 or Help buttons

- Main map now displays regions in strategy

- Fixed saving game bug

- Election night now has a fast-forward button and default mode is also quicker

- Election night has option to display message when region is called

- Election night region displays lock if called

- Fixed election night bug with not recognizing new winner if changes after called

- Modified percentage change dynamics for more realistic game play

- Footsoldiers last 30 days

- Changed number of CPs receive in general election

- Changed starting funds for players in 2004, 2008

- Fixed bug playing a game with certain parties on

- Can run ad in all regions in strategy

- Modified computer player endorsement and withdrawal decision making

- Can turn AutoUpdates on or off on start screen

- Computer players better at strategizing

- Momentum affects endorsers

- Can continue as player to whom become Veep or as player in party who wins convention

- Fixed veep not moving properly when barnstorming

- Fixed "List Index Out Of Bounds" bug

- Footsoldiers now cost 5 CPs in general election

- For footsoldier creation, regional momentum/2 added to completion per turn

Minor Changes

- Fixed display error when more than 3 scandals created

- Second governor of Alabama removed in 2004

- Changed governor of New Jersey in 2004

- Fixed far-right position on Affirmative Action in 2004

- Changed several candidates from 'female' to 'male' in 2004, 2008

- Changed Lieberman's colour from light-blue to orange in 2004

- Nader 'party' funds changed from $0 to $100,000 in 2004

- Fixed bug with general election candidates not having a block grant not being able to fundraise

- Fixed bug with computer players spinning news stories when shouldn't be able to

- Reduced chance spy gets caught

- Reduced chance spy help with scandal research during the primaries

- Decreased undecideds in general election to 20% in 2004, 2008

- Main map region abbreviations coloured correctly

- Main map +- correspond to correct poll data, don't show +- if < 0.5 change

- Modified alienated voters to 40% in 2004, 2008

- Changed Democratic starting percentage in Colorado to 48% in 2008

- Change player colours in 2004

- Fixed news story font size bug

- Computer players do issue familiarity and debating more often

- Hide issue familiarity and debating skill bars for other players if don't have spy

- Modifies endorser attributes for 2004, 2008

- Fixed where switching from primaries to general election CPs not right on one day

Tony, great job! Two things -

Make Texas vote GOP more often. I saw Hillary win it with 53%. Also, when it says the high scores on the front page. It doesn't let you delete the old ones. It just resets the historical settings. You should change that. But everything else was great. Also, when are the other scenerios being released? And with Congress 4 Ever be out soon?

Matty

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Don't know if you've already been told but there's a bug during save. I think it only happens when reload a game you saved during the same session and try to save again. I've avoided it so far by restarting the game each time I want to reload.

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I'm not sure I agree. Though, most of the bugs are ironed out. Now there is a new one. And this new one is even worse. Now the game freezes up and crashes. At least with the other dozen bugs, I could still play the game until it was patched. Now I can't play it at all. I upgraded to version 1.00.3 and I keep getting "flotation" error, followed by the "list index out of bounds error. Then the game won't let me continue.

Anyone else having this problem?

As for the state percentiles, I too have noticed the Reps doing "extremely" well in Massachuesetts and the Dems doing very well in Utah and Mississippi and Alabama. The chances of a Dem taking Utah, Idaho, Mississippi or Alabama, or a Republican taking Vermont, Massachuesetts, or Rhode Island are quite minute. It has been done before, but "rarely". So this really oughta be fixed when the other bugs are ironed out.

Two questions which may or may not be relevant to this:

1) What does "universal alienated" mean in the percentages.xml file? In the old P4E, I could usually tweak a state to keep it close or not close by changing the number of strongly committed and undecided voters. However, I'm not sure what to do with this particular number in this case.

2) Does it matter if you wait until after the conventions to pick states for your general election strategy, or will the opposing party be laying groundwork in those states and get an advantage over you as a result?

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I just had an interesting game as Bush in '04. I decided to run without primary opposition (that way I could screw with the Democratic primaries and make sure that Howard Dean won :lol: ) I saw early on that Kerry and Edwards were running first and second respectively with Dean in third so I started attacking them. At the same time, I was constantly running tv ads in all the red states and swing states for the general election.

I was starting to really pull away in the general election map so I looked at the Democratic map. To my surprise, Lieberman was starting to mount a serious challenge to Dean. Not wanting to face Lieberman in the general, I offered him the VP slot on my ticket and he accepted quit easily. :o This basically gave the nomination to Dean and every other opponent of his dropped out within two weeks.

Needless to say I went on to wipe the floor against Dean. Wasn't hard, what I really wanted to see was how I could influence the other side's primaries. It was fun, but still a bit unrealistic (the Lieberman thing especially).

Overall a great improvement!

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Hi NEPoliSciIndyGuy,

Knowing the answers to a few questions will help us to find and fix this bug.

1. Had you saved and then loaded before you got the "flotation" error?

2. Does it happen every game?

3. Are there specific steps you can take to reproduce this error? If so, could you tell us what they are?

If anyone else has this error, your info would be greatly appreciated.

The 80soft Team

I'm not sure I agree. Though, most of the bugs are ironed out. Now there is a new one. And this new one is even worse. Now the game freezes up and crashes. At least with the other dozen bugs, I could still play the game until it was patched. Now I can't play it at all. I upgraded to version 1.00.3 and I keep getting "flotation" error, followed by the "list index out of bounds error. Then the game won't let me continue.

Anyone else having this problem?

As for the state percentiles, I too have noticed the Reps doing "extremely" well in Massachuesetts and the Dems doing very well in Utah and Mississippi and Alabama. The chances of a Dem taking Utah, Idaho, Mississippi or Alabama, or a Republican taking Vermont, Massachuesetts, or Rhode Island are quite minute. It has been done before, but "rarely". So this really oughta be fixed when the other bugs are ironed out.

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I just had an interesting game as Bush in '04. I decided to run without primary opposition (that way I could screw with the Democratic primaries and make sure that Howard Dean won :lol: ) I saw early on that Kerry and Edwards were running first and second respectively with Dean in third so I started attacking them. At the same time, I was constantly running tv ads in all the red states and swing states for the general election.

I was starting to really pull away in the general election map so I looked at the Democratic map. To my surprise, Lieberman was starting to mount a serious challenge to Dean. Not wanting to face Lieberman in the general, I offered him the VP slot on my ticket and he accepted quit easily. :o This basically gave the nomination to Dean and every other opponent of his dropped out within two weeks.

Needless to say I went on to wipe the floor against Dean. Wasn't hard, what I really wanted to see was how I could influence the other side's primaries. It was fun, but still a bit unrealistic (the Lieberman thing especially).

Overall a great improvement!

Ronnie - I had a similar experience in a game I ran last night. I was playing as Edwards and I was winning my primary but we were behind the Republicans nationally. I offered the VP-ship to Romney and that made a massive difference - Gingrich won the nomination in the end and Romney brough a large number of his supporters with him it seems. Almost all Republican states went undecided that turn with a couple (incl. Florida) giving me an 8 point + lead. In the end I finished with a very nice 72% and every state but two or three (Idaho being one of them).

Sadly no whitewashes as was possible in the previous version as yet (I had received every state and c. 80% of the vote on a couple of occassions playing as Romney, Kerry and Clark) though. ;)

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Hi skywalkr2,

The next update (1.00.6) should fix this bug, but it won't let you load a saved game from 1.00.5.x - so the unfortunate answer is that particular game probably can't be finished.

Just got a "List index out of bounds (-1)" while pretty far along into a game (darn it). I cannot get past this issue. It wont let me go to the next turn. What information can I give you to help find the issue?

PS this is with version 1.00.5.1

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Hi skywalkr2,

The next update (1.00.6) should fix this bug, but it won't let you load a saved game from 1.00.5.x - so the unfortunate answer is that particular game probably can't be finished.

As long as I dont have to worry about losing 3 hours of work again... thats good news :)

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I recently purchased PF+Prime and was disappointed to see that the create candidate was not available yet. I also wanted to download the newest patch .5 so I sent a email to the update email address but still have not received anything. How long does it take to received a reply and any clue as to when the create candidate and other advertised scenarios will be released?

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