the_rick87 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I created a 2008 scenario today for myself but I would like to post. I am a Democrat but I tried to make it accurate and it comes out rather evenly. The premise: Bush is reelected in 2004 (which I even think he will be) so the White House is open in 2008. Bush's approval ratings have incontrovertibly and steadily declined except for jumps for 9/11, the Iraq War, and the capture of Saddam Hussein. I think it is reasonable to believe that if Bush will continue to decline (the majority of people already believe that we are on the wrong track and independents are rapidly turning against him) pending some catastrophic and unifying event. This brings up the point that the Democratic Party is probably better off losing this time because, if the nation continues to become disheartened with Republican policies, then the Democrats would be poised to take power in a way similar to the Democratic Dynasty of FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ or the GOP Dynasty of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. I did not make this scenario pro-Democrat though, instead I tweaked up Democratic numbers in several blue states and a few battleground states, while raising the GOP in a few hard core Republican states. In other words, the nation remains divided (of course its easy for you to alter that). Most of the issues are the same as they probably will be, except: Stem Cell Research replaces Abortion, obviously this a big future issue Bush Doctrine replaces Affirmative Action, 2008 could bring an assessment of eight years of reactionary foreign policy Iran replaces Military Funding, I'm setting the scenario as if we are on the brink of war with Iran, very possible North Korea replaces Military Intervention, same deal Social Security profile raised, definitely true Terrorism, an assessment of the beauracracy of the Homeland Security Dept, (Wyoming presently gets the most money per capita) Democratic Candidates Hillary Clinton John Edwards Evan Bayh Russ Feingold John Kerry (another shot?) Democratic Veeps Barack Obama Bill Richardson Joe Kernan Ed Rendell GOP Candidates Chuck Hagel Bill Frist Jeb Bush Tom DeLay George Pataki GOP Veeps Bill Owens Rudy Giuliani Rick Perry Condi Rice Green Party Cobb/Camejo Independent Ventura/Sanders (Ventura does pretty well in Minnesota) Also a couple changes in the electorate FL -1 HI -1 IL -1 CA +1 NM +1 AZ +1 I have one poblem, Edwards only has 5 CP for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 well that's a nice scenario and your right on the republican side but kerry isn't gonna lose this year also where is tom vilsak (i think i spelled his last name right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rick87 Posted August 28, 2004 Author Share Posted August 28, 2004 i hope your'e right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Bush will win! So it is quite accurate. You could also do an alternate Kerry win in '04 in which dozens of Dems contest him in 2008 because his presidency was such a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyzersoze13 Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 I'd add Wesley Clark to the Dems. I don't think we've heard the last of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCTrep Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Florida is in no way declining in population.... You should in fact add 1 EV for them, they are not getting smaller, in a few years they will be the size of new york Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rick87 Posted August 28, 2004 Author Share Posted August 28, 2004 yeah i just got some population stats and im gonna change all the electoral vote differences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinhmaster Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Bush will win! So it is quite accurate. You could also do an alternate Kerry win in '04 in which dozens of Dems contest him in 2008 because his presidency was such a joke! Please don't inject your own political beliefs into this. This board is for discusion about scenarios not for you to spread your right-wing propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Whatever, this is open discussion! I have contributed alot to scenario discussion. Your post is a typical left-wing attempt to silence free speech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danieldlmn Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 who ever made soviet invasion it is awsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadwayboy87 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I made soviet invasion, thanks for the input, I hope to make more! Whatever, this is open discussion! I have contributed alot to scenario discussion. Your post is a typical left-wing attempt to silence free speech! Thats a big joke. Bush it the one who introduced our wonderful (<- Sarcasm)Patriot Act. I can't even say what I think about him without worrying the CIA will arrest me for questioning, and you think we're trying to silence free speech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchFisher Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 EVs won't be adjusted in 2008... the next census is in 2010 Remember: the EVs are based on Congressional Districts which are based on population which are only adjusted in censuses which happen every 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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