SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 i notice most of the 2008 scenario's people used there own political feelings and most have came out pretty weak. the best is who Vs whom but that is very hard to win as a democrat because Ventura is made more important than he is and he does take votes from both parties not just 1 (unlike most 3rd party candidates). i suggest somebody make a new 2008 scenario that is unbiased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Sorry SSVegeta123243, I do try to make my scenarios as unbiased as possible. In Who vs. Whom, I wanted the Democrats and Republicans to be equal and have Jesse Ventura play a sort of 'Perot-like' role. In my 'A Nation Divisible' scenario on the 2000 race I wanted it to be as close as possible to the actual showdown between Bush and Gore without any of my biases included and put in nearly all of the 2000 nomination contenders. In 'Who vs. Whom' I wanted to include quite a few possible contenders for the nomination in each party to increase its entertainment value. I am glad you enjoyed it and please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions on how my scenarios can be made more enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 ya i think nader should have been left out because i highly doubt he will run in 4 years since his support is already dwindling and between nader and ventura it's almost impossible to win with a democrat (but i have done it with kerry) also add obama that guy is the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyN Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Obama wouldn't run in 2008, he'd have barely been on the Senate. It would be a poor move on his part, I see him waiting until after his second term. Suggested Candidates for 2008: Repub: George Pataki, Jeb Bush, Condolezza Rice, Mitt Romney, Thomas Ridge, Zell Miller (Democrat who could swing) Democrat: John Edwards, John Kerry (he wins), Bill Richardson, Tom Vilisack, Zell Miller (very Conservative Democrat) Green: David Cobb, Peter Camejo Libertarian: Gary Nolan, Michael Badnarik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 matt u say obama wouldn't run see john edwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyN Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 True, but John Edwards had finished his term...I see Obama as the type who'd rather finish his term than just jump into things. He'll probably run for 2 terms before running for President...that is, if he wins the second term, (I have little doubt that he'll win this one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I think Obama would make a good running mate in 2008. Nader will probably run until well into his 90's hes on an ego trip! I can make a more realistic 2008 if people are interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 u think alan keyes has a shot? he isn't even from illinois he has no shot of winning i heard 2/3 of the vote is already with obama. it depends if kerry loses (god forbid) it will be a 2 way race between hilliary and edwards so there will be room for him to make a bid for the white house i see edwards/obama in 2008 i doubt the republicans can find two people that could beat that team and if kerry wins those 2 will run in 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danieldlmn Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 U.S. Senate, Head-to-Head, IL 8/9/2004 Obama (D) 67% Keyes ® 28% Undecided 5% Data Collected 8/6/04 - 8/7/04 Geography State of Illinois Sample Population 612 Registered Voters Margin of Error 4.0% obama going to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 like i said keyes' was chosen just because he is a black republican i believe that was a pretty dumb move and the republicans really should have looked in state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyN Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 No, I have no doubt that Obama will win in Ill...my wording must have been off. Edwards/Obama...I've got some names that could make it interesting: Rudy Giuliani, Bill Owens, Mitt Romney, Thomas Ridge, George Pataki...any of them would make it an interesting race. Side-note: Governors tend to win over Senators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 history also says that vp's usually don't become president but the 1st bush won and gore won the popular vote. i think an edwards/obama would be tough to beat because the entire democratic party could support them and the only knock on edwards is expierence and in 4 years that won't be a problem. tom ridge? please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 also when u have a black man running for vice president u can throw history out the window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFan22 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 also when u have a black man running for vice president u can throw history out the window Careful now. We said something like that in 1984 and look what happened to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 ya well mondale was an idiot who had a horrible campaign strategy and regan was pretty much unbeatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npm32 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I have a feeling the Republican who runs in '08 isn't even on the radar yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFan22 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I have a feeling the Republican who runs in '08 isn't even on the radar yet. If Bush loses, would he run again? Or, God forbid, if he were to "win" again, would he run again? Push through a repeal of the 22d Amendment so we can have "continuity" in the war on terror so he can get another four years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I doubt he'd be able to run again even if he wanted to. Too much young blood and powerful contenders to take him on and push him out. I think 2008 would be Al Gore's last shot and it would be Hillary's only kick at the bucket before fresh blood takes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCTrep Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 For god sakes we all know its going to be a McCain/Pataki ticket in '08 against John Kerry.... McCain will come in here and save our souls....thank god!!! McCain/Pataki '04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyN Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Oh no, we're going to have a more exciting team in 2008. The bipartisan McCain/Zell Miller team: Though originally made as a fake bumpersticker for '04, I think that could be fun for 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 J.Bush/Giuliani in 2008 or a Giuliani/Rice ticket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCTrep Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Well mcCain really cant run for president,a s well as miller. They would be in their 80's by their second term.... Plus, I would love to see a Hillary vs. Condi Rice Battle Royale. Condi would kick Hill's a$$, would win the female vote, the black vote. Thats like 58-40 right there. Also, I'd love seeing her giving a dirty look at middle east tyrants.... She's make a great VP for Frist too. A Frist-Edwards debate would be awesome.... Frist a former doctor vs. A former Trial Lawyer who sued doctors, raising the price of healthcare.... 2008 is going to be awesome... If Kerry wins, and has anyhting short of a good 1st term, he's out.... The people he might face (pending 04) McCain (likley not) Powell (likley not, but would beat anybody, and would make a fantastic president) Rice(great credintals) Frist(great experience) Giuliani(not alot of experience tho) Pataki Santorum (Im not a favorite of his) Romney (big fan) Arnold (HIGHLY unlikely) (and i think he wouldnt be a good prez) Simply put if Powell were to run in anytime, from the Gulf War, he would have won any presidental election. He would have beaten Clinton, killed Gore, and killed Kerry. The Republican party has needed a strong black voice for a long time, and as the party, moves more to the middle on social issues, he's the perfect man, because he has a brilliant mind, and he's a millitary genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCTrep Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Jeb Bush might also run. He is moderate like his father, unlike Bush Jr. Although, he isnt very popular anymore in FL, that hurts him a lot. If he becomes popular like his brother was in Texas, in a huge, centrist state like Florida, he can beat Kerry too. At the current time he would lose. And when I'm old enough to vote in 08 and Giuliani is the Republican nominee, Ill vte Libertrian, unless he gets more experience. A mayor is not fit to be President of 300 million people. Rice is different because she was a NSA, and is a scholar, and is a highly intelligent and strong women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyN Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Giuliani would make a great Vice President with a strong President, then have him run for the Presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCTrep Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 very true, but he cant just run for prez off the bat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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