Hardrightconservative Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hi everyone! This is a preamble to my new United North America scenario! Please let me know what you think! UNITED NORTH AMERICA 2008 In this scenario, the United States and Canada have become one nation. Canada’s economy collapsed in 2005 and the only choice was to be absorbed into the United States. Canada amid protest signed the deal in February 2006. Prime Minister Paul Martin and President George W. Bush were the signatories. After Congressional elections were held in 2006 the seats were Republican-17 Democratic-17 American Progressive-17 and Socialist 13. There are 611 Electoral votes in the new nation. 306 EV are needed to win or the election will go to the bitterly divided House of Representatives. ELECTORAL VOTES FOR THE CANADIAN STATES: British Columbia – 8 Alberta – 6 Saskatchewan – 3 Manitoba – 3 Ontario – 19 Quebec – 13 Newfoundland – 3 New Brunswick – 3 Nova Scotia – 3 Prince Edward Island -3 Yukon – 3 Northwest Territories – 3 Nunavut -3 The following are excerpts from the Treaty of Union between Canada and the U.S. Signed on February 16, 2006: CANADIAN DEMANDS: - The Yukon, Northwest Territories and Nunavut be given statehood despite their small populations. They will be allotted 3EV each. The rationale for this was to give Canada more of a say during an election. - No term limits for Presidents. - As long as citizens, who have not been born in Canada and the U.S., have held citizenship for 20 years, they may run for the Presidency. U.S. DEMANDS: - U.S. political system be adopted. - Scrap the monarchy. - No Distinct status for Quebec (Secession will mean war!) - Congressional elections will be held immediately November 2006. UNITED NORTH AMERICA PARTIES AND CANDIDATES: Democratic The U.S. Democratic Party has adopted the Canadian Liberal Party into its membership. Paul Martin stated that “The two parties are identical in ideology.” This party looks to be the ruling party with strength in traditional U.S. strongholds and most of Canada. CANDIDATES: Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton Paul Martin Jean Chretien Al Gore Al Sharpton Evan Bayh Howard Dean John Kerry John Edwards Joe Lieberman Nancy Pelosi Richard Gephardt Wesley Clark Zell Miller Sheila Copps Anne McLellan Bill Richardson Bob Kerrey Joe Biden Ted Kennedy Tom Daschle Barrack Obama Republican The Republican Party has amalgamated most of the Canadian Conservative Party (its right-wing elements) and the Christian Heritage Party into its ranks along with the Constitution Party. CANDIDATES: George W. Bush Jeb Bush Rudy Giuliani John McCain Bill Frist Condolezza Rice Arnold Schwarzenegger Michael Peroutka George Pataki Stephen Harper Stockwell Day Ron Gray Alan Keyes Pat Robertson Mr. T Sylvester Stallone Pat Buchanan Socialist Party The Socialist Party has brought together nearly all the left-wing fringe parties in the U.S. and Canada. The Canadian Greens, New Democratic Party, Bloc Quebecois, Communists and Marxist-Leninists as well as the American Green Party and Socialist parties. CANDIDATES: Ralph Nader Dennis Kucinich Jack Layton David Cobb Gilles Duceppe Jim Harris Michael Moore Peter Camejo American Progressive Party Many Canadian and American conservatives have felt that the Republican Party is too right wing. On a platform of fiscal conservatism and progressive social policy, the American Party hopes to become the ruling party in 2008. Many former Canadian Progressive Conservatives, Libertarians, moderate Republicans and former Reform party stalwarts have joined this party. CANDIDATES: Jesse Ventura Peter MacKay Joe Clark David Orchard Ian McClelland Scott Brison Belinda Stronach Jim Prentice Michael Badnarik Jean Charest Arlen Specter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarnstrom54014 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 That sounds way awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swing Voter Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Wow this looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swing Voter Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Impresive lists of cantidates to, have you started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 It is pretty much complete. The map was very tricky to draw but it is complete as well. All I have yet to do is arrange finances for the different candidates. I included alot of candidates so it would fit well into the primaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swing Voter Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Great looks lke one of the best new scenarios yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 mr.t yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 I have sent in the scenario to be posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinhmaster Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Could you email it to people if we gave you are adresses? Mine is trinhmaster@gmail.com. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyN Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Wow...sounds like an amazingly in-depth scenario. I can't wait to see the final product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 Sure, I can email it to people until it gets posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycloneprime Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 It sounds great! However, wouldn't it make more sense for Quebec to become independant? Quebec could never join the USA like this... (Then again, it is your scenario and you are free to do as you wish) Please, send it to cycloneprime@hotmai.com Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Edwards for President Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 FireWNow@aol.com It sounds awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swing Voter Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 bensam5@comcast.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 i'm for anything that includes mr.t but y is he a republican Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senclyde Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Sounds like an interesting idea, Hardrightconservative. If you wouldn't mind, please email it to me at clyde@netdepot.org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted September 25, 2004 Author Share Posted September 25, 2004 Mr. T is helluva tough on crime and wants kids to drink milk insteadx of smoke pot. Mr. T is just included for fun. Bill Clinton kicked my butt when I tried to play Mr. T against him. Not a serious candidate just comical relief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 lol yes mr.t will be the first president who goes out and stops crime personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchFisher Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 What's this? Hardright being unbiased? I MUST GET THIS SCENARIO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinhmaster Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Hey good job on this scenario I really enjoyed playing it. However I would recommend that you change the map that you are using right now. It seems way to small to me and I think you should devise a method that would make it easier to make out the U.S. states. Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted September 26, 2004 Author Share Posted September 26, 2004 Thank you I put alot of work into the map and my previous map just had the U.S. and little squares above for the Canadian provinces. I felt I should try to make a map as large as possible to accomodate this scenario. Those working on a world map will have their hands full! I am glad you enjoyed it. FrenchFisher all my scenarios have been unbiased, if they are biased scenarios become boring and unrealistic even if you are in favor of its bias. I hope its playability is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rick87 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 I'm usually for the hard core realist scenarios... but I must say this sounds very creative and well made i'll be sure to get it on the site, keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonvallee Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 [rant mode ON] Ack, maybe the game is creative, but unbiased, at least in regards to candidates, is really not true. The Republicans have good all-around candidates, Jeb Bush for example has 4 everywhere, and some real people are just simply unrealistically strong, Giuliani has 4 fives! I mean, I know he has a good reputation and is considered to be a good politician, but come on now. Alan Keyes has 4 everywhere except Charisma (and Obama is pretty weak)! Condolezza Rice, often called negatively "intellectual" and boring has 5 in debating! When you turn to the socialist party and its candidates (BTW, no socialist party I know of uses the hammer and sickle, they use the symbol of a fist holding a rose), you also see bias. Though Layton's stats are better than in P4E, his description tells us he's a "left-wing extremist"... Michael Moore has a '1' integrity and is told to have made "fictional and slanderous" documentaries . The other candidates are so-so at best, horrible at worst. And then to the Republicans' splinter group... Charest a good politician? Good God man, you must know nothing of the man. Even at his most popular, he was called the "mouton" (sheep) for his hair and way of acting. At most, we can say he's a good debater when on the offensive, beyond that, he's weak. [rant mode OFF] Otherwise, it seems interesting and relatively unbiased. To those interested in telling me to relax "it's only a game", remember that Hardrightconservative was asking people for comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swing Voter Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Well you do have a point about some of the right wingers being a little point heavy (Day) but opinions will filter through no matter what, even on some of the liberal scenarios, overall I think it was good work Hardright, I hope you will continue to come up with interesting and freash ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSVegeta123243 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 simon that's as unbiased as hard right can get he tried his best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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