Bill_Clinton Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 My dad bought this game a while ago now and i've just been given his computer for my room which made me play president forever. Since i studied Germany for my exams, i have a knowledge of Germany in 1933 and was thinking it'd make a really good scenario for the game. I've seen all the scenario's available and they are all amazing. Does anyone have a scenario for germany 33? Imagine it democracy vs hitler's nazi party beliefs. Would be really good! If no one has made it is it easy enough to make? I know some of the main issues in Germany at the time and the people involved but how do you go about making this scenario? I've asked my dad if the game was sent with an instruction manual for this but he said he forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taft Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 '33 would be interesting...as I recall, it was Hindenburg v Hitler v the Communists...that'd make for an interesting contest, to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsFan21 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 It would be more realistic with PM4E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_raoul Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 first thing is someone has to make a map of 1933 Germany and do all the regional tags so the map works once that is done then it is fairly simple to jump in and do the issues, etc. I'd be interested in it, sure i can't do maps, I iz 'pooter photoshop kinda illiterate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrightconservative Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 My dad bought this game a while ago now and i've just been given his computer for my room which made me play president forever.Since i studied Germany for my exams, i have a knowledge of Germany in 1933 and was thinking it'd make a really good scenario for the game. I've seen all the scenario's available and they are all amazing. Does anyone have a scenario for germany 33? Imagine it democracy vs hitler's nazi party beliefs. Would be really good! If no one has made it is it easy enough to make? I know some of the main issues in Germany at the time and the people involved but how do you go about making this scenario? I've asked my dad if the game was sent with an instruction manual for this but he said he forgot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its sounds very interesting! Give it a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithl4170 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Bill, there were two presidential elections in Germany in 1932, a four candidate one and then a run off with the top three, as Hindenburg did not win 50% in the first one. If you want to do the Reichstag elections there were, I think, a total of 3 in 1932. PMF Uk might be a good engine for this. I have some sources of data, but they don't go to the csontituency level. I've looked into this on the internet, and I think all the detailed election data is in German only. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natyjalm Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Bill, there were two presidential elections in Germany in 1932, a four candidate one and then a run off with the top three, as Hindenburg did not win 50% in the first one.If you want to do the Reichstag elections there were, I think, a total of 3 in 1932. PMF Uk might be a good engine for this. I have some sources of data, but they don't go to the csontituency level. I've looked into this on the internet, and I think all the detailed election data is in German only. Keith <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's why he'd translate the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillary'08 Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 yeah, this is an interesting scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Well, if you were to have a Germany 1933 scenario, it'd be better to use the real political parties, rather than "Democracy" vs the Nazis, since it was the election when the Nazis actually won control of the Reichstag, and it was a real election. But the method used was actually a blindingly simple version of PR, with about 1 seat per 600,000 votes. No seats, no electoral divisions, no electoral college, nothing. Probably the simplest electoral system I've ever seen. So while you could do it under the PMF UK model, it wouldn't actually reflect reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Clinton Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Well I tried to make this game but failed miserably. I wonder if anyone else has attempted it since i posted my original message. if anyone else has experimented i'd love to play their game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-uglen Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 If anyone wants help with translating German text into English, just e-mail me at peter@loehmann.dk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr abc Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 "But the method used was actually a blindingly simple version of PR, with about 1 seat per 600,000 votes. No seats, no electoral divisions, no electoral college, nothing. Probably the simplest electoral system I've ever seen." Right. That would be my approach. No regions. I would recommend putting Hitler at Leadership 6, other candidates at 2. Unemployment as a huge issue where Socialists and Nazis compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 I wouldn't put Hitler at leadership 6. He couldn't get anymore than 37% of the vote in any election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsFan21 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 I wouldn't put Hitler at leadership 6. He couldn't get anymore than 37% of the vote in any election. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Leadership mainly goes to how they run their party and how "PMish" they are. And, damn his soul to hell, he was very good at both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Clearly Germans didn't view Hitler as PMish in '33. I think a leadership rating of 6 would be too high because it could easily bring results that are much higher than 37%. It's overkill. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr abc Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Clearly Germans didn't view Hitler as PMish in '33. I think a leadership rating of 6 would be too high because it could easily bring results that are much higher than 37%. It's overkill.Just my thoughts. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought Leadership was the ability to get peopel fired up with speeches and promises and manipulation. Hitler was definitely good at that. The other parties were very uninspiring and 'status-quo'. You have to remember that there was around 25% unemployment. That can't be a 'normal' election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsFan21 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 that there was around 25% unemployment. That can't be a 'normal' election. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You have obviously never gone to Cape Breton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Edwards for President Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 This will help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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