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https://www.google.com/amp/s/pledgetimes.com/never-green-again-habecks-summiteer-on-the-freeway-abyss-already-only-cdu-lap-dog/amp/

The SPD is finally beginning to understand that only them or the Greens can survive. I'm hoping for them going forward. This will likely only intensify as the 2021 election nears closer. 

Sensational title because I can :P

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5 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pledgetimes.com/never-green-again-habecks-summiteer-on-the-freeway-abyss-already-only-cdu-lap-dog/amp/

The SPD is finally beginning to understand that only them or the Greens can survive. I'm hoping for them going forward. This will likely only intensify as the 2021 election nears closer. 

Sensational title because I can :P

To be pedantic, you should change your title to, "Social Democrats and Greens at War." Die Linke are the biggest real hard Socialist party in Germany in the modern day.

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5 hours ago, TheLiberalKitten said:

Chancellor Infinity when 😮

 

 

5 hours ago, TheLiberalKitten said:

MMP when :o

 

5 hours ago, TheLiberalKitten said:

PR when :o

Your guess is as good as mine. I've been perennially bringing this up to @admin_270 since not long after the first version of PMI dropped.

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There's no reason that the Greens and the SPD can't both survive in a proportional representation system. Maybe the Greens will displace the SPD as the largest left-of-center party, but the SPD are still steadily in third place in the latest polling:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election

German voters seem to have stalemated themselves into a situation where cross-ideological coalitions are the only viable governments. The combined broadly left-of-center vote (i.e. the SPD, the Greens, and Die Linke) are well short of 50% combined, as is the combined vote of the CDU/CSU and the FDP, which makes a broadly right-of-center majority coalition difficult as long as the AfD remain persona non grata. Even if the Greens do win something like 20% of the vote next time, the most likely result is that they replace the SPD as junior partner to the CDU/CSU in the next coalition.

If either the SPD or the Greens are serious about ever displacing the CDU/CSU from power, then getting into a protracted fight with each other seems like exactly the wrong thing to be doing right now.

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48 minutes ago, RI Democrat said:

German voters seem to have stalemated themselves into a situation where cross-ideological coalitions are the only viable governments. The combined broadly left-of-center vote (i.e. the SPD, the Greens, and Die Linke) are well short of 50% combined, as is the combined vote of the CDU/CSU and the FDP, which makes a broadly right-of-center majority coalition difficult as long as the AfD remain persona non grata. Even if the Greens do win something like 20% of the vote next time, the most likely result is that they replace the SPD as junior partner to the CDU/CSU in the next coalition.

 

Completely agree. I lean towards the SPD over the Greens, so I'm obviously a little biased, but the Greens so far have been just acting like they want to be in a coalition with the CDU - not lead one of their own. It's why I think they'll end up fizzling out eventually.

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