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Trump Recovery Poll  

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  1. 1. How Long Does it Take Trump to recover enough to lead campaign rallies again?

    • He'll be recovered and on campaign early next week.
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    • He'll be recovered and on campaign the week after next.
    • He'll be recovered and on campaign about the final week of the campaign.
    • He won't be recovered, but he'll still try to campaign periodically toward the end of the election.
    • He won't recover quick enough to campaign, but he'll be at work at the White House and campaign virtually.
    • He'll basically be completely out of the race, but he'll be alive and still functioning as president but delegating a lot.
    • VP Pence will take over everything, but Trump will still hold the title of President.
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    • Trump will be replaced due to illness or death as president.
  2. 2. Does the fact that the President and a whole group of Trump admin people and GOP Senators + Chris Christie tested positive for Covid, hurt the GOP in the upcoming election?

    • This will likely make the Democrats seem like the smarter people regarding Covid.
    • This will have no effect on the election.
  3. 3. McConnell is delaying Senate proceedings and etc for two weeks due to Covid hitting the Senate, what will happen to Justice Barrett?

    • She will still get her hearing and confirmation before the election.
    • She will get her hearing before or after the election but her confirmation will be after the election.
    • She will not get both her hearing and confirmation before the next president is sworn in, which means if Biden wins, she won't take her seat.


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I am surprised to be among the most reluctent voters in this poll while I am not pro Trump.

The point with covid-19 is that you can't know how the dicease will evolve, Trump also agrees in his last message, basically he might be dead in 13 days or he might have recovered.

With someone younger and in a better shape I would not say that, but Trump is above 70 years old and not in a very good physical shape.

Bojo was in good shape before to be seriously hospitalized during 2 days, 11 days after having contracted covid, so basically it's just too soon to know.

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8 hours ago, Edouard said:

I am surprised to be among the most reluctent voters in this poll while I am not pro Trump.

The point with covid-19 is that you can't know how the dicease will evolve, Trump also agrees in his last message, basically he might be dead in 13 days or he might have recovered.

With someone younger and in a better shape I would not say that, but Trump is above 70 years old and not in a very good physical shape.

Bojo was in good shape before to be seriously hospitalized during 2 days, 11 days after having contracted covid, so basically it's just too soon to know.

An interesting tidbit ( @vcczar may like this, too - and anyone else) about the vulnerability of heads-of-state in a previous, very-well-known pandemic.

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/medieval-renaissance/masque-of-the-black-death-how-europes-rulers-resisted-the-plague-in-vain/

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16 hours ago, Patine said:

An interesting tidbit ( @vcczar may like this, too - and anyone else) about the vulnerability of heads-of-state in a previous, very-well-known pandemic.

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/medieval-renaissance/masque-of-the-black-death-how-europes-rulers-resisted-the-plague-in-vain/

Just about the point between the plague and the coronavirus, there is a common point

Yes the autorities of Milan have been very good to control the spread of the Black Plague between 1347 and 1352, but 3 centuries later it came back in Italy and killed 300 000 people in lombardy.

The problem is, when you have a supercontagious dicease you have to get a vaccine and during this time you have to play with security measures and do a match between liberties and public health

Actually the last great western european plague is telling, it's the plague of Marseilles of 1720.

At this time, there was a ship which was transporting goods from the Middle East, but there was a plague in this area. The safety protocole of the town was harsh with news ships :

The Sanitation Board established a three-tiered control and quarantine system. Members of the board inspected all incoming ships and gave them one of three "bills of health". The “bill of health” then determined the level of access to the city by the ship and its cargo.

A delegation of members of the sanitation board was to greet every incoming ship. They reviewed the captain’s log, which recorded every city where the ship had landed, and checked it against the sanitation board's master list of cities throughout the Mediterranean that had rumors of recent plague incidents. The delegation also inspected all the cargo, crew and passengers, looking for signs of possible disease. If the team saw signs of disease, the ship was not allowed to land at a Marseille dock.

If the ship passed that first test and there were no signs of disease, but the ship’s itinerary included a city with documented plague activity, the ship was sent to the second tier of quarantine, at islands outside of Marseille harbour. The criteria for the lazarets were ventilation (to drive off what was thought to be the miasma of disease), be near the sea to facilitate communication and pumping of water to clean, and to be isolated yet easily accessible.

Even a clean bill of health for a ship required a minimum of 18 days' quarantine at the off-island location. During such time, the crew would be held in one of the lazarettos/lazarets that were constructed around the city. The lazarettos were also classified in relation to bills of health given to the ship and individuals. With a clean bill, a crewman went to the largest quarantine site, which was equipped with stores and was large enough to accommodate many ships and crews at a time. If crew members were believed subject to a possibility of plague, they were sent to the more isolated quarantine site, which was built on an island off the coast of the Marseille harbour. The crew and passengers were required to wait there for 50 to 60 days to see if they developed any sign of plague.

Once crews served their time, they were allowed into the city in order to sell their goods and enjoy themselves prior to departure.

And so how it occured?

In 1720, Yersinia pestis arrived at the port of Marseille from the Levant upon the merchant ship Grand-Saint-Antoine. The vessel had departed from Sidon in Lebanon, having previously called at Smyrna, Tripoli, and plague-ridden Cyprus. A Turkish passenger was the first to be infected and soon died, followed by several crew members and the ship's surgeon. The ship was refused entry to the port of Livorno.

When it arrived at Marseille, it was promptly placed under quarantine in the lazaret by the port authorities. Due largely to Marseille's monopoly on French trade with the Levant, this important port had a large stock of imported goods in warehouses. It was also expanding its trade with other areas of the Middle East and emerging markets in the New World. Powerful city merchants wanted the silk and cotton cargo of the ship for the great medieval fair at Beaucaire and pressured authorities to lift the quarantine.

A few days later, the disease broke out in the city. Hospitals were quickly overwhelmed, and residents panicked, driving the sick from their homes and out of the city. Mass graves were dug but were quickly filled. Eventually, the number of dead overcame city public health efforts, until thousands of corpses lay scattered and in piles around the city.

The result?

During a two-year period, 50,000 of Marseille's total population of 90,000 died. An additional 50,000 people in other areas succumbed as the plague spread north, eventually reaching Aix-en-Provence, Arles, Apt and Toulon. Estimates indicate an overall death rate of between 25–50% for the population in the larger area, with the city of Marseille at 40%, the area of Toulon at above 50%, and the area of Aix and Arles at 25%.

It's massive for 1720.

 

And right now even if covid is less fatal than the plague, the question of which safety checks to use is the key for every government.

Well the problem with USA is that the country never ever controled their first wave.

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1 hour ago, Defiant said:

It would break the realism of the game.  No way could all the things that happened this year happen in one single election year. ;)

would also be really annoying if you had to decide between rallying or risking getting covid, and the game logic forcing you to never campaign at all. 

 

 

I would think it'd be good to have a platform issue on covid though.  

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