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  1. 1. See the Data in the First Post: Who do you think wins if the election were today?

  2. 2. Pres. Trump has tested positive for Covid. What do you think happens?

    • It's supposedly a mild case, so I think he recovers quickly and people forget it ever happened.
    • I think he's just pretending to have it for some sort of electoral effect.
    • I think this will gain Trump sympathy points, which will see him rise in the polls
    • I think Trump comes out of this telling people to be much more cautious about Covid.
    • I think Trump comes out of this telling people that "it wasn't a big deal," which will likely result in more maskless people going out and about.
    • I think his condition gets much worse and he's taken effectively out of the race until possibly the very end.
    • This will cancel the debates.
    • Biden will now be campaigning more than Trump for the rest of the election.
    • Biden will campaign even less (somehow) for fear of catching it himself.
    • Trump will die from Covid, and Pence unofficially at the top of the ticket will alter the polls.
    • Trump catching Covid will see his poll numbers drop.
    • Trump catching Covid will have no effect on the race.
    • Other (mention below)
  3. 3. A new poll shows that 1 in 3 Americans are willing to endorse violence if their party loses in November. While Republicans are more okay with violence than Democrats, the Far-Left is the group that finds it the most justifiable. What is your opinion.

    • There is zero justification for any sort of political violence whether it is to further political goals or to protest the 2020 election if my candidate loses, even if it is controversial.
    • There is at least a little justification for violence to further political goals or to protest the 2020 election if my candidate loses, especially if it is a controversial election.
    • There is a great deal of justification for violence to further political goals or to protest the 2020 election if my candidate loses, especially if it is a controversial election.
  4. 4. Which cuisines do you enjoy?



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There is zero justification for violence but great justification for protest if the election is controversial (and there is massive evidence about electoral fraud).  

@Conservative Elector 2 @admin_270 and anyone else who was involved in this convo. Actually, they couldn't. Article IV, Section 3 expressly prohibits making new states by dividing up old states. 

My sister is a little picky as well...not as bad as I am, but worse than most people.     Growing up, the story was that my dad was a picky eater, and so as my mom made food tailored to his pic

8 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

@Conservative Elector 2 @admin_270 and anyone else who was involved in this convo.

Actually, they couldn't. Article IV, Section 3 expressly prohibits making new states by dividing up old states. 

Unfortunately, that’s not true.  You’ve left off the rest of Article IV, Section 3.

You can’t do it “without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the congress.”

Assuming you’re splitting one red state into additional red states and you have a Republican majority (not even a supermajority!) in Congress, it absolutely could be done.  

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8 hours ago, Patine said:

Theoretically, by the common viewpoint in Congress at the time - and quite defensible by simple legal logic - the eleven Confederate States could have, between 1865 to 1868, been broken up, merged, had their borders completely changed, renamed, made into a single State, made into territories instead of States, sold to the British Empire, or never even readmitted - by the their theory of many Radical Republicans that the Confederate States had "willingly revoked Statehood and went into treasonous insurgency," or had, "commit State suicide and were conquered Provinces after the surrender after the Battle of Appotomatix Court," and could be readmitted to the Union under any conditions - including, theoretically, those above (though they were never done) - or even not at all. Constitutionally, no such potential opportunity, even theoretically, has ever presented itself in U.S. history.

Actually, this was done (kind of) with Virginia.  
 

When Virginia seceded, the western portion of Virginia declared their own independence from Virginia, declared themselves to be the newly formed state of West Virginia, and rejoined the Union.  This permanently changed the borders of Virginia, and the two states were not reunified even after Virginia was re-admitted.

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8 hours ago, vcczar said:

Why do you think you’re so uniquely picky? I know of only one other person that is picky in the same way. Also Italian heritage. 

My sister is a little picky as well...not as bad as I am, but worse than most people.  
 

Growing up, the story was that my dad was a picky eater, and so as my mom made food tailored to his pickiness, that became the food my sister and I were accustomed to as well.  
 

Later in our lives, when we were old enough to not have every meal decided by our parents, other foods (even ones that others would think are perfectly normal) were completely foreign and scary for us.

But this doesn’t necessarily explain everything.  For example, my dad won’t drink milk — he eats his cereal dry.  My sister and I drink an unusual amount of milk.  Likewise, my dad will eat cheese and my sister loves cheese, but I haven’t touched cheese in more than thirty years.  So while all three of us are picky, it’s not a perfect match and therefore unlikely that we are just mimicking him.

Its recently been suggested that my dad and I might both be on the autism scale.  I don’t actually believe this to be true, and neither of us have been tested — I think it’s just a thing that’s happening right now in our culture where everybody thinks everybody is on the autism scale.  But it was suggested that one of the signs is having a problem with certain textures.

I had never thought about it until someone else pointed it out, but I absolutely DO have a problem with textures.  In addition to food, I might gag if I touch the wrong kind of blanket while folding laundry, or an unusual shirt.

I never associated that with anything, even though I obviously recognize that is weird.  But when I googled “problem with textures”, ADHD popped up.  I absolutely do have ADHD (diagnosed, and obvious symptoms), so perhaps that’s the explanation for the food issues too.

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1 hour ago, Actinguy said:

Unfortunately, that’s not true.  You’ve left off the rest of Article IV, Section 3.

You can’t do it “without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the congress.”

Assuming you’re splitting one red state into additional red states and you have a Republican majority (not even a supermajority!) in Congress, it absolutely could be done.  

Actually, it is. Only the unification of states is permittedm the division is not permitted under any circumstance. The key is the semicolon which separates the two clauses. Still it is the subject of much scholarly research.

1 hour ago, Actinguy said:

Actually, this was done (kind of) with Virginia.  
 

When Virginia seceded, the western portion of Virginia declared their own independence from Virginia, declared themselves to be the newly formed state of West Virginia, and rejoined the Union.  This permanently changed the borders of Virginia, and the two states were not reunified even after Virginia was re-admitted.

This was, of course, a different scenario given that Virginia literally professed to not be part of the United States anymore. The US wasn't about to force a chunk of the state that didn't want to secede to do so just because of a clause in the constitution that told them they couldn't.

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2 hours ago, Actinguy said:

My sister is a little picky as well...not as bad as I am, but worse than most people.  
 

Growing up, the story was that my dad was a picky eater, and so as my mom made food tailored to his pickiness, that became the food my sister and I were accustomed to as well.  
 

Later in our lives, when we were old enough to not have every meal decided by our parents, other foods (even ones that others would think are perfectly normal) were completely foreign and scary for us.

But this doesn’t necessarily explain everything.  For example, my dad won’t drink milk — he eats his cereal dry.  My sister and I drink an unusual amount of milk.  Likewise, my dad will eat cheese and my sister loves cheese, but I haven’t touched cheese in more than thirty years.  So while all three of us are picky, it’s not a perfect match and therefore unlikely that we are just mimicking him.

Its recently been suggested that my dad and I might both be on the autism scale.  I don’t actually believe this to be true, and neither of us have been tested — I think it’s just a thing that’s happening right now in our culture where everybody thinks everybody is on the autism scale.  But it was suggested that one of the signs is having a problem with certain textures.

I had never thought about it until someone else pointed it out, but I absolutely DO have a problem with textures.  In addition to food, I might gag if I touch the wrong kind of blanket while folding laundry, or an unusual shirt.

I never associated that with anything, even though I obviously recognize that is weird.  But when I googled “problem with textures”, ADHD popped up.  I absolutely do have ADHD (diagnosed, and obvious symptoms), so perhaps that’s the explanation for the food issues too.

I was a picky eater somewhat in the way you are now when I was a kid. In college, I tried new food. Now I’ll eat about anything. It’s for me to think that you aren’t missing out, but if your taste buds are different, then maybe you wouldn’t enjoy it. My favorite food is any kind of seafood. Aside from that, I like really spicy Mexican or Indian food, the kind that makes you drink a whole glass of water after the first bite, even though you know it won’t do anything. 
 

Regarding autism. It is a spectrum. Someone can be lightly in it. Although, I think there is likely a lot neurodiversity we don’t know about. I know I’m not autistic, but I also know I’m not neurotypical. 
 

I also have ADHD which I use much of my power to try to control.  This is one reason I’m creating 1,000 posts in this forum. What you don’t see is I’m constantly multitasking on things on my CPU and outside my CPU in my genera area. It’s also one reason I get angry that I have to work on long lasting projects sometime. 
 

 

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3 hours ago, Actinguy said:

My sister is a little picky as well...not as bad as I am, but worse than most people.  
 

Growing up, the story was that my dad was a picky eater, and so as my mom made food tailored to his pickiness, that became the food my sister and I were accustomed to as well.  
 

Later in our lives, when we were old enough to not have every meal decided by our parents, other foods (even ones that others would think are perfectly normal) were completely foreign and scary for us.

But this doesn’t necessarily explain everything.  For example, my dad won’t drink milk — he eats his cereal dry.  My sister and I drink an unusual amount of milk.  Likewise, my dad will eat cheese and my sister loves cheese, but I haven’t touched cheese in more than thirty years.  So while all three of us are picky, it’s not a perfect match and therefore unlikely that we are just mimicking him.

Its recently been suggested that my dad and I might both be on the autism scale.  I don’t actually believe this to be true, and neither of us have been tested — I think it’s just a thing that’s happening right now in our culture where everybody thinks everybody is on the autism scale.  But it was suggested that one of the signs is having a problem with certain textures.

I had never thought about it until someone else pointed it out, but I absolutely DO have a problem with textures.  In addition to food, I might gag if I touch the wrong kind of blanket while folding laundry, or an unusual shirt.

I never associated that with anything, even though I obviously recognize that is weird.  But when I googled “problem with textures”, ADHD popped up.  I absolutely do have ADHD (diagnosed, and obvious symptoms), so perhaps that’s the explanation for the food issues too.

Can you tear apart cotton? That's the only texture I could say I hate, though it doesn't make me gag, just stresses me out.

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1 hour ago, vcczar said:

I was a picky eater somewhat in the way you are now when I was a kid. In college, I tried new food. Now I’ll eat about anything. It’s for me to think that you aren’t missing out, but if your taste buds are different, then maybe you wouldn’t enjoy it. My favorite food is any kind of seafood. Aside from that, I like really spicy Mexican or Indian food, the kind that makes you drink a whole glass of water after the first bite, even though you know it won’t do anything. 
 

Regarding autism. It is a spectrum. Someone can be lightly in it. Although, I think there is likely a lot neurodiversity we don’t know about. I know I’m not autistic, but I also know I’m not neurotypical. 
 

I also have ADHD which I use much of my power to try to control.  This is one reason I’m creating 1,000 posts in this forum. What you don’t see is I’m constantly multitasking on things on my CPU and outside my CPU in my genera area. It’s also one reason I get angry that I have to work on long lasting projects sometime. 

The ADHD certainly explains a lot (in a good way, not making fun). The 1000 posts/polls a year definitely falls into the category of mentally stimulating short-term projects. Though I still never would have guessed you had it.

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18 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

The ADHD certainly explains a lot (in a good way, not making fun). The 1000 posts/polls a year definitely falls into the category of mentally stimulating short-term projects. Though I still never would have guessed you had it.

i've always had it. It made me a terrible student in grade school (K-12). I was never paying attention. I was lost in thought, reading something, drawing ,etc. In college, for whatever reason, I could focus the energy more to the topics because I found them and the teachers to be more interesting. Straight A's in college and grad school.

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8 hours ago, Actinguy said:

Actually, this was done (kind of) with Virginia.  
 

When Virginia seceded, the western portion of Virginia declared their own independence from Virginia, declared themselves to be the newly formed state of West Virginia, and rejoined the Union.  This permanently changed the borders of Virginia, and the two states were not reunified even after Virginia was re-admitted.

I know this. I'm just saying it COULD have been used ruthless in ways I said above to completely redefine the very shape of the Deep South with impunity. They could have, for instance, only readmitted five States, based on the borders of the five Reconstruction Military Administration Districts. Or a single State of Dixieland. Or reverted them to territories. Or sold them to the British Empire. Or something even more radical. Many modern people often don't fully grasp how much at the mercy of the Congress in Washington, DC, dominated by Radical Republicans (at least initially) the future, in so many ways, of the Deep South was.

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