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Senator Wentworth, annoyed by the racist President Hollingworth and his own Federalist Party being spineless has decided to create a new party, now as the Liberal Party, with strong support from New England and some others on the East Coast. The Liberal Party platform includes the freeing of all slaves, stopping the Indian Wars, keeping tariffs high, making Ohio a free state, a whisky tax, and ending all talk about keeping the slave trade until 1838. Wentworth considered joining Thatcher's party, but decided that Thatcher is a no-good murderer and shouldn't have any power.

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President Hollingsworth gives a speech after the death of Hamilton Fellow Countrymen, Our nation emerged from the conflagration of revolution just 17 short years ago. Our form of government

1-5 was a kill, 6-10 was the gun jams Alexander Hamilton, leader of the Federalist Party, is DEAD! Killed by the new leader of the Abolitionist Party! 

FEDERALIST CONVENTION 1800 Federalists gathered in New York City to choose their delegates as President and Vice President of the United States. Early convention favorites were Alexander Hamilton

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5 hours ago, buenoboss said:

Senator Wentworth, annoyed by the racist President Hollingworth and his own Federalist Party being spineless has decided to create a new party, now as the Liberal Party, with strong support from New England and some others on the East Coast. The Liberal Party platform includes the freeing of all slaves, stopping the Indian Wars, keeping tariffs high, making Ohio a free state, a whisky tax, and ending all talk about keeping the slave trade until 1838. Wentworth considered joining Thatcher's party, but decided that Thatcher is a no-good murderer and shouldn't have any power.

1. A poor rolling out of the Liberal Party, but still, the idea is good enough for a few defections in the House. 

Emancipation Party (didn't roll earlier, will now): 2. The murder of Hamilton shocked those that supported the party and made them vacillate between the Liberals and Federalists, who are likely breathing a sigh of relief at the poor rolling out of the two parties ideologically similar. However, as with the Liberals, they currently hold two Senate seats in their hands, as well as a handful of House seats.

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State of Congress 1801 (after defections and new parties)

House of Representatives: 73 Democratic-Republicans, 27 Federalists, 4 Emancipationists, 2 Liberals

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Senate: 15 Democratic-Republicans, 13 Federalists, 2 Emancipationists, 1 Liberal (Federalists still hold de facto control, but it is a lot shakier)

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With Thatcher in hiding, prominent members of the Abolitionist movement have declared the abolition (heh) of their party, seeking to instead join the Liberal Party en masse. These members have also called for Thatcher’s arrest, in an apparent olive branch to the Democratic Republicans. Members now scramble to disassociate themselves from George Thatcher, whose infamy rivals even that of Benedict Arnold himself. 

The remnants of the party also seek the continued support of Maitland’s bloc, who would join the Liberal Party as well.

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(Meta: I’m switching to a new character since my old one is a fugitive)

Name: John Milledge

Age: 44

Political Affiliation: Democratic-Republican

Position: Congressman from Georgia

Stances:

French Overture: I stand in support of cooperation with the French government. We should seize our manifest destiny and expand west into the Louisiana Territory.

Slave Trade: Cotton plantations have become a staple of the American economy. To end the slave trade now would only harm this economic success.

Assassination of Alexander Hamilton: George Thatcher is a symptom of a disease affecting America: Abolitionism. Make no mistake, those who call for abolition seek to uproot our nation’s economy and society. We must bring these radicals to justice, until their insidious plans are thwarted for good!

Tariffs: Cotton exporting makes up a large part of our trade, and tariffs hamper this trade. We must accept that tariffs were a failed experiment, and return to an economic model that works.

Indian Wars: It’s bad enough we have radicals calling for rights for the blacks, but now the Injuns are getting uppity too? Our manifest destiny is more important than some tent squatters, and I fully support using the military to secure a homeland for good Americans.

Ohio: We should be cautious about letting any states in that have abolitionist leanings. One state, two states, and before you know it the blacks and injuns are running amok! We should redraw Ohio’s borders to better represent the slaveholding class, and prevent a radical takeover of America.

Revenue: It’s clear that the key to increased revenue is cotton exporting. In only twenty years cotton has caused huge economic growth, and further expansion of this will increase revenues. I would consider taxes on a case-by-case basis, but I firmly oppose tariffs. 

 

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7 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

French overture: The government of France, after seeing the victory of the Democratic-Republicans, is more willing to deal than with the old government under Adams. French overtures suggest that they would be willing to sell a broad chunk of land in the middle of the country to the United States of America, perhaps doubling the country. However, it would almost certainly cost a fortune and plunge the nation into further debt than it has now. What will the official response be from Washington?

The President is secretly ecstatic about the arrival of the news. The normalization of France is paramount and this land could cement the United States as formidable forces with which to be reckoned if they could secure it. The President knows that it is the north, particlarly the Mid-Atlantic, who are the most in favor of expansion. This can and will be leveraged by the President. The administration will prepare to enter into negotiations to purchase the land, however. He informs his Secretary of State to ready a correspondence.

7 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Slave Trade: The trade is due to be done in 1808, however some radical parts of the Democratic-Republican party would like it to continue even past that date, some mentioning a thirty-year postponement to 1838. It is almost certain to enrage the Northern branch of the United States, however.

We absolutely wish to preserve the slave trade, and I immediately get the Speaker, Senate Minority Leader, and my Secretary of Treasury on the horn. We need to do this carefully, and I know that we absolutely can leverage it with some of the other issues facing us, we will be able to peel off enough moderate Federalists to get it through the Senate.

7 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Assassination of Alexander Hamilton: Sec. Hamilton was killed by a former primary rival in Massachusetts, of which the President has already given an address. Will the President take action to attempt to arrest Mr. Thatcher and bring him to justice? Will he take any action against this so-called Emancipation Party, of which Thatcher founded?

Absolutely, our government will not rest until Mr. Thatcher is arrest and brought to justice for the murder of Alexander Hamilton. We will not stoop to the level of the Adams government and undermine the 1st amendment, but we will ask full cooperation from Emancipation Party for an investigation into anyone who had prior knowledge or aided Thatcher in his murder of Hamilton. We'll make sure no radical abolitionists are going to murder any more of their political opponents. We need law and order. The President hope shis address on the matter has united the nation.

8 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Tariff Question: Some Democratic-Republicans are eager to get to work and to eliminate tariffs that plague the southern economy. Will the President give them their blessing in Congress to go ahead and start the process?

Absolutely, we give our full endorsement to efforts to reduce tariffs, the people elected us on a mandate to do so and we'll be going forward with it.

8 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Indian Wars: William Henry Harrison is the new governor of the Indiana territory, and is asking the federal government for power to aggressively root out Native Americans in the area. Some are worried it could set off a new war. Does the President give his blessing?

The Governor has the right to lay claim against the savages. We are Americans and we will not be held off land that is rightfully ours.

8 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Ohio: The territory of Ohio is petitioning for statehood, likely to come in as a free state that would balance out Tennessee. Will the President give the state his endorsement to seek to become a functioning US state?

More on this in a moment.

8 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Revenue:  The country's budget remains small, and some believe a tax on whisky or growing the tariff would see a spike in revenue. Will the President pursue any further ways to grow the country's budget?

THe budget will do what it does. We will not pursue any new taxes, however if we save the slave trade

Proposal to Congress:

President Hollingsworth gathers the Dem Rep, Federalist, and minor party leaders at the White House. He puts forward the following agenda from the White House. Congress will cut tariffs and defer the Slave Trade Ban for 30 years, until 1838. IN exchange, the Dem Reps will allow Ohio to enter the union as a free state and we will go after the Louisiana Territory, which is more territory that looks to be free states eventually than do slave states. He notes that most Northerners are more expansionist than many Southerners. 

His administration will, no matter what else, continue to seek Justice for Hamilton and unite the nation as we move forward after this national tragedy, it's time we compromise and do what the American people sent us here to do. There is no need for obstructionism.

The President, after the meeting, remarks to his advisors how the split of the Federalists should lead to large approvals for himself and gains for his party in the midterms.

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Senate Minority Leader Middleton completely subscribes to the President's Agenda and will do his damn best in ensuring the Senate votes in favor of the matters at hand; Appealing to any hopeful reluctant Federalists, emphasizing that not supporting the agenda is signing their death sentence come their re-elections. In a speech to the Senate floor, Middleton explicitly condemns the murdering of Alexander Hamilton, but also emphasizes that, "If any of you Federalists, Abolitionists, whatever the hell you want to call yourselves condone this kind a' behavior, get the hell out of this sacred hall of our country... and go rot in hell. It's high time we start our work for the American people, and while I had extremely, profound disagreements with Mr. Hamilton, the spirit of him lives on, and we shall do our duty to unite the country, and work for the American' people." 

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Vice President Iredell is in complete agreement with President Hollingsworth on every action taken this term. It is of the utmost importance that the Democratic-Republicans stand united in the face of a collapsed Federalist Party, and by taking a united front the party is best able to take control in the midterms. Publicly, Iredell will yap to whomever will listen about the wisdom of the Georgian president's actions, and he has had no issue placing himself firmly at the President's side. The former Governor of North Carolina additionally wrote his own thoughts on the assassination of Alexander Hamilton in a New York paper, calling it "The first great American tragedy, and one of which the scoundrels responsible will pay for". 

Privately, Vice President Iredell hopes to angle himself into the good graces of party leadership by supporting the agenda from underneath the president, while also attempting to prove to Hollingsworth that he would be a great asset in the next four years of his guaranteed reelection term. With Middleton hopefully content in the Senate, Iredell has good chances of keeping his post in 1804 if he can only secure the support of the president and the opposition remains divided. 

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1 hour ago, Zenobiyl said:

The remnants of the party also seek the continued support of Maitland’s bloc, who would join the Liberal Party as well.

Prominent Maitlandites, including William Maitland himself join with the Liberal's in the hopes of building it into a major force for Abolitionism, Democracy, Non-Violence, and Progressive Christianity in American Politics.

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John Milledge is satisfied with the president’s mandate, although he believes the compromise doesn’t go far enough. Why should the Democratic Republicans work with the Federalists when their party is collapsing? Milledge will support the president, but will continue on as a voice of the most extreme pro-slavery wing of the party. He will also encourage the president to reconsider the borders of the Ohio territory, which includes many northerners with uncertain intentions.

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On 9/30/2020 at 8:10 PM, Reagan04 said:

The President is secretly ecstatic about the arrival of the news. The normalization of France is paramount and this land could cement the United States as formidable forces with which to be reckoned if they could secure it. The President knows that it is the north, particlarly the Mid-Atlantic, who are the most in favor of expansion. This can and will be leveraged by the President. The administration will prepare to enter into negotiations to purchase the land, however. He informs his Secretary of State to ready a correspondence.

On 9/30/2020 at 11:02 AM, Hestia11 said:

The French originally propose a price of $22 million. Some in the President's close circle wish to bring the cost down, as the Native Americans largely control most of that territory.

 

On 9/30/2020 at 8:10 PM, Reagan04 said:

nWe absolutely wish to preserve the slave trade, and I immediately get the Speaker, Senate Minority Leader, and my Secretary of Treasury on the horn. We need to do this carefully, and I know that we absolutely can leverage it with some of the other issues facing us, we will be able to peel off enough moderate Federalists to get it through the Senate.

On 9/30/2020 at 11:02 AM, Hestia11 said:

This will be in the next Congressional phase once we finish the other events :)

Pretty much just respond to the French proposal and then we will get on with the Congressional phase

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4 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

The French originally propose a price of $22 million. Some in the President's close circle wish to bring the cost down, as the Native Americans largely control most of that territory.

We will make this exact case to our French friends. We will aim to negotiate them down to at least 4 cents an acre, starting lower of course to get them there. (4 cents, or 15 million, being the IRL price.) We emphasize my administration's goodwill towards France.

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CONGRESSIONAL PHASE

(I back :D)

Quickly, I'd like to start off with a few rules for the Congressional phase.

1. If someone has already taken a slot (i.e. Senate Minority/Majority leader) prior in the game, they must either be dethroned or retire to lose their spot. So just because they had it last time doesn't mean it's taken away for fairness. 

2. For fairness, I would like you to select a position within a party that you will run at the next election (or in incumbent cases, support/not run, depending). That way we don't have people (I trust y'all, but just to make sure) trying to hatchet job an opposing party. If you intend on making a new party, I'd select out of a party that you will be defecting from. 

Alright, now onto the fun stuff ;)

First, the only slots that are filled are obviously @Reagan04 with the President, and @PringlesN7 with DR Senate leader. As such, I will be adjusting this post eventually to reflect slots being taken.

FEDERALIST LEADERSHIP

Senate Leader -

House Leader-

Whips (if we get that far ;) )- 

DEMOCRATIC-REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

President - @Reagan04

Vice President - @Herbert Hoover

Senate Leader - @PringlesN7

House Leader (Speaker) -

House Leader (Majority Leader) - 

Whips (if we get enough) - 

LIBERAL LEADERSHIP

Senate Leader -

House Leader -  

The Issues on the Table

1. Congressional bargaining on Louisiana Purchase

2. Admittance of Ohio as a Free State

3. Expanding the Slave Trade to 1838

4. Reducing of tariffs to benefit the Southern economy

(others submitted by Congressmen)

Here is a current map of the Senate (only made it as big as it is to show the color coordinations for the parties)

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Please reply below with two positions you are interested in (if a position above isn't already filled for you) - if there are extras that need filled, I may ask for more :) 

(tagging those that are interested previously)

@Conservative Elector 2 @WVProgressive @superezione @The Blood @Zenobiyl @Cenzonico @ALiteralNeoliberal @Rodja @buenoboss (and any others that would like to join :D)

I'm going to give until 2:00 PM Saturday for anybody interested to respond, due to the sheer amount of numbers we have. 

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John Walker, an eccentric Democratic-Republican holding office in VA-11, with policy many consider centrist, with an emphasis on Congressional power, the rule of law, and a tax on the Atlantic Slave Trade(Assuming its end is prolonged) used to fund expansions into the west, will throw his hat in for a possible spot as Speaker of the House.

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Oliver Terrell will choose to remain as the Governor of Tennessee, rather than run for a federal position. He will continue to work to spread the values of the Democratic-Republican Party all across the nation, and remain a solid moderate voice within the party.

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John Milledge, an extreme pro-slavery advocate and congressman from Georgia, will run for speaker of the house.

Milledge wants to extend the slave trade indefinitely, and will attempt to filibuster Ohio’s admittance unless it enters as a slave state. He will accept the Louisiana Purchase states only if they all allow slavery. 

Milledge can be pacified with a pro-slavery SCOTUS nomination, or the extension of the slave trade to 1838. Should these demands not be met, he may consider forming a party more dedicated to preserving slavery.

(Should Milledge fail to become speaker, he will nominate himself as Caucus Chair for a brand new pro-slavery southern caucus.)

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William Maitland will run for the House Seat centered around Philadelphia, and will seek to be the Liberal Party's House Leader.

1. Congressional bargaining on Louisiana Purchase - In favor of further expansion in the hopes that it will lead to the death of slavery. In favor of granting this new land to yeoman farmers, but not to big corporations, and wealthy planters. 

2. Admittance of Ohio as a Free State - In favor of admitting Ohio as a Free State, without the admission of a slave state to 'counterbalance' it.

3. Expanding the Slave Trade to 1838 - Absolutely opposed to this, though admits that immediate abolition is probably a non starter at this point. Will instead call for moving the deadline up to 1815, banning slavery west of the Mississippi River, and financially compensating manumissions. Send freed Africans back to Africa.

4. Reducing of tariffs to benefit the Southern economy - Would like to see an increase in tariffs to a rate that encouraged industrialization, and produces revenue.

5. Equal Rights - Women, and Men, are entitled to the same basic rights laid out in the constitution, including voting rights, and the right to own property. Extend suffrage to all white people, regardless of property ownership or sex.

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Memminger would be interested to run for Federalist Senate Leader (or Whip at least).

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John Trumbull Jr, who had been grappling with how he can best help the struggling Federalist Party, has announced his intentions to take over as the Senate leader for the party, 

Trumbull is once again running on a moderate Northern platform, advocating for a gradual abolition of slavery and limited reduction of tariffs on Southern states,

He also wholeheartedly supports the admittance of Ohio as a state, while having his reservations about the idea of a potential Louisiana purchase, arguing that there are far greater uses for federal funds,

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