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2020 Election: North Dakota and South Dakota


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Doing two states at once to make up for the day I missed (my CPU was being fixed). 

Both states are definitely voting Trump. Here's how Democrats have done in the 21st century however:

ND: I'm amazed how well Obama did here in 2008. 

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Cass ? -10 -3 7 -20 -21
Burleigh ? -45 -31 -24 -39 -36
Grand Forks ? -18 -3 5 -15 -19
Ward ? -47 -31 -19 -34 -28
  ? -36 -19 -8 -27 -28

SD: This state has fewer population centers and areas that could flip Democrat. Again, Obama did relatively well here for a 21st century Democrat. On the whole, South Dakota likes Democrats a little better than North Dakota. 

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Minnehaha ? -15 -8 0 -15 -10
Pennington ? -33 -29 -12 -35 -38
  ? -30 -18 -8 -22 -22

Here are presidential nominees, governors, US Senators, and US Reps for both ND (first one posted) and SD (second one posted) since 2008. The darker the color the better margin they received on their election. Obama was really a realigning president. Several states during the Obama presidency saw their state party representation (party they support for governor, Senator, and US Rep) align with their national party representation (party they support for president). These states states were well represented by Democrats from 2008 and before. Now, it's hard to imagine a Democrat winning office here. 

2008 2010 2012 2014 2016 2018
McCain McCain Romney Romney Trump Trump
Hoeven Hoeven Dalrymple Dalrymple Burgum Burgum
Conrad Conrad Heitkamp Heitkamp Heitkamp Cramer
Dorgan Hoeven Hoeven Hoeven Hoeven Hoeven
Pomeroy Berg Cramer Cramer Cramer Armstrong

2008 2010 2012 2014 2016 2018
McCain McCain Romney Romney Trump Trump
Hoeven Hoeven Dalrymple Dalrymple Burgum Noem
Johnson Johnson Johnson Rounds Rounds Rounds
Thune Thune Thune Thune Thune Thune
Herseth Noem Noem Noem Noem Johnson

 

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5 hours ago, pilight said:

North and South Dakota have both gone Republican in each of the last 13 presidential elections.  The last time they went Democratic was 1964.

Another interesting fact: the last time they disagreed with each other was in 1916 when South Dakota supported Republican Charles Evans Hughes and North Dakota supported Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

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7 hours ago, vcczar said:

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Doing two states at once to make up for the day I missed (my CPU was being fixed). 

Both states are definitely voting Trump. Here's how Democrats have done in the 21st century however:

ND: I'm amazed how well Obama did here in 2008. 

 

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Cass ? -10 -3 7 -20 -21
Burleigh ? -45 -31 -24 -39 -36
Grand Forks ? -18 -3 5 -15 -19
Ward ? -47 -31 -19 -34 -28
  ? -36 -19 -8 -27 -28

SD: This state has fewer population centers and areas that could flip Democrat. Again, Obama did relatively well here for a 21st century Democrat. On the whole, South Dakota likes Democrats a little better than North Dakota. 

 

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Minnehaha ? -15 -8 0 -15 -10
Pennington ? -33 -29 -12 -35 -38
  ? -30 -18 -8 -22 -22

Here are presidential nominees, governors, US Senators, and US Reps for both ND (first one posted) and SD (second one posted) since 2008. The darker the color the better margin they received on their election. Obama was really a realigning president. Several states during the Obama presidency saw their state party representation (party they support for governor, Senator, and US Rep) align with their national party representation (party they support for president). These states states were well represented by Democrats from 2008 and before. Now, it's hard to imagine a Democrat winning office here. 

 

2008 2010 2012 2014 2016 2018
McCain McCain Romney Romney Trump Trump
Hoeven Hoeven Dalrymple Dalrymple Burgum Burgum
Conrad Conrad Heitkamp Heitkamp Heitkamp Cramer
Dorgan Hoeven Hoeven Hoeven Hoeven Hoeven
Pomeroy Berg Cramer Cramer Cramer Armstrong

 

2008 2010 2012 2014 2016 2018
McCain McCain Romney Romney Trump Trump
Hoeven Hoeven Dalrymple Dalrymple Burgum Noem
Johnson Johnson Johnson Rounds Rounds Rounds
Thune Thune Thune Thune Thune Thune
Herseth Noem Noem Noem Noem Johnson

 

The Independent Republic of Lakotah forever (if only their current ideologues, like Russel Means, weren't so damned and heavily influenced by Libertarianism)!

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