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Here is mind. We definitely align, but I'm not as radical as you. 

Libertarian Socialist gang Rise up!

 

Though I have to note that this was last year. And I have since moved significantly left and libertarian in the Political Compass. 

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5 minutes ago, CentristGuy said:

Here is mind. We definitely align, but I'm not as radical as you. 

Libertarian Socialist gang Rise up!

 

Though I have to note that this was last year. And I have since moved significantly left and libertarian in the Political Compass. 

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As I continue to be in college longer,continue political science studies more, and become deeper involved in politics irl, I move further to the left :D (though I think I am at my limit, and have my grounded, full views now of course)

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Hahahaha then it is a trend by now !

If It can give you informations, I will soon become a lawyer.

I am finishing my studes in public law.

To give more details about my ideological switch thest last years :

-I was less progressive when I was younger (moderate progressive/liberty)

BUT I also was less centrist for economy.

And probably more interventionnist too.

I moved to libertarianism in society in the same time that I moved centrist in economy.

I maybe was more like @CentristGuy for economy even if I was already more moderate on the issue (let's say I was Social-Democrat).

Politically I have been member of the Socialists (in France, which is the same than the Democrats) then moved to En Marche (still like the Democrats but more moderate) and now I am not in political activism.

My votes can go to parties from moderate left to the center-right but never so far to Right-wing parties.

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I'll go ahead and hop on this. I'm just a regular vanilla Libertarian. My views have evolved a lot since I got into politics but I seem to fully fall in line with Libertarianism.

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I am surprised about my score as ''anti-world''. I guess it's because I view organizations like the EU, UN or the WHO as broken. Otherwise I am mostly in favor of international cooperation. Especially in security and economical matters. If these organizations were designed in a new, better way and if they were led by capable people I'd favor them hugely. 

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1 minute ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

 

I am surprised about my score as ''anti-world''. I guess it's because I view organizations like the EU, UN or the WHO as broken. Otherwise I am mostly in favor of international cooperation. Especially in security and economical matters. If these organizations were designed in a new, better way and if they were led by capable people I'd favor them hugely. 

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This is scary! The making of a tyrant! ;)

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40 minutes ago, Edouard said:

 @Conservative Elector 2 let me unfriend you 😛 (I'm joking of course)

It's interesting to see that we have a pretty diverse ideological community beside the shades of democrats

Why do you still assume I consider myself a member of the Democratic Party of the United States? Why would anyone claim membership in a party they couldn't vote for, couldn't stand as a candidate for, couldn't (legally) give campaign donations to, and whose policies only affect them indirectly and by collateral effect, at best? I'm afraid I'm MUCH more realistically attuned to the NEW Democratic Party of CANADA. :P

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6 minutes ago, Patine said:

Why do you still assume I consider myself a member of the Democratic Party of the United States? Why would anyone claim membership in a party they couldn't vote for, couldn't stand as a candidate for, couldn't (legally) give campaign donations to, and whose policies only affect them indirectly and by collateral effect, at best? I'm afraid I'm MUCH more realistically attuned to the NEW Democratic Party of CANADA. :P

You're a chad Edmonton centrist in Alberta

The Virgin radicals vs the CHAD centrist : virginvschad

More seriously, I did not know that you were a NDP boy :o :o :o 

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15 minutes ago, Edouard said:

You're a chad Edmonton centrist in Alberta

The Virgin radicals vs the CHAD centrist : virginvschad

More seriously, I did not know that you were a NDP boy :o :o :o 

Ideology doesn't REALLY add up to party membership inasmuch (a lovely word contraction invented in Newfoundland) as having membership in foreign political parties realistically assumed. I am not a member of the British Labour Party or the Social Democratic Party of Germany, either, despite similar ideology, and my lack of membership in those two parties are for the same reason I am not a member of the Democratic Party of the United States. And this little chart you've linked, outside the obviously idealistically-marked centre, looks like a compilation of analyses of socio-political ideologies by a pretentious, nihilistic, misanthropic, self-loathing, bleak-viewed philosopher wannabe - the kind of person you don't want to hang around with too much lest their moaning and groaning about the world and everyone in it gets really grating...

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33 minutes ago, Patine said:

Ideology doesn't REALLY add up to party membership inasmuch (a lovely word contraction invented in Newfoundland) as having membership in foreign political parties realistically assumed. I am not a member of the British Labour Party or the Social Democratic Party of Germany, either, despite similar ideology, and my lack of membership in those two parties are for the same reason I am not a member of the Democratic Party of the United States. And this little chart you've linked, outside the obviously idealistically-marked centre, looks like a compilation of analyses of socio-political ideologies by a pretentious, nihilistic, misanthropic, self-loathing, bleak-viewed philosopher wannabe - the kind of person you don't want to hang around with too much lest their moaning and groaning about the world and everyone in it gets really grating...

I actually been able to become member with voting right of a foreign party outside of my country. That's the problem with voting registration !

But let's continue it in private if you want

(You love to have debates as I see !)

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5 minutes ago, Edouard said:

What do you think if I tell you that I was member of the Parti Québécois while not canadian and actually voted in the leadership election of the Parti Québécois in 2016 to designate the new leader of the official opposition in Quebec?

I kind of figured as much. Of course, no major U.S. political party has support of Quebec independence as any part of their platform (though I believe all of those small State and Regional secessionist parties in the U.S. have loose solidarity network with the secessionist parties in Canada similar, in broad theory, to the regional autonomist and independentist parties parliamentary bloc in the European Parliament, but would be about it).

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32 minutes ago, Patine said:

I kind of figured as much. Of course, no major U.S. political party has support of Quebec independence as any part of their platform (though I believe all of those small State and Regional secessionist parties in the U.S. have loose solidarity network with the secessionist parties in Canada similar, in broad theory, to the regional autonomist and independentist parties parliamentary bloc in the European Parliament, but would be about it).

Apparently JF Kennedy was not clear on his position about the rise of Quebec secessionnist movement in the 60's

Jean François Lisée former leader of the PQ actually wrote a book about it.

https://lactualite.com/politique/john-f-kennedy-et-le-quebec/

It's known that Kennedy was pro-independence, he strongly criticized France as senator in the 50's for retaining Algeria as a department.

But what surely increased his potential private sympathy for Quebec secessionism was the awfull relationship he had with John Diefenbaker. However this is not a historical debate even if it's an interesting one ;) 

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17 minutes ago, Edouard said:

Apparently JF Kennedy was not clear on his position about the rise of Quebec secessionnist movement in the 60's

Jean François Lisée former leader of the PQ actually wrote a book about it.

https://lactualite.com/politique/john-f-kennedy-et-le-quebec/

It's known that Kennedy was pro-independence, he strongly criticized France as senator in the 50's for retaining Algeria as a department.

But that surely increased his potential private sympathy for Quebec secessionism was the awfull relationship he had with John Diefenbaker. However this is not a historical debate even if it's an interesting one ;) 

However, George H.W. Bush, fearing a disruption of trade on the St. Lawrence (or sudden tariffs or other barriers rising) apparently threatened Quebec separatists who were too hasty and eager that there would be "gunboats at the Citadel (in Quebec City) by noon the next day (after a hasty declaration of independence)," as an "on the other hand," viewpoint.

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I got Democrat Socialist, which was a surprise.  I found Bernie to be well-intentioned, but naive about the way the world actually works.  

I'm all about rights for minorities and having a much more humane policy regarding immigration and taxing the shit out of the wealthiest people our country has to offer.  But I'm also against decriminalizing drugs (including marijuana) and favor interventions overseas.  

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