vcczar 1,229 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 May 21st poll: Four new polls this morning. Biden is up by over 20 in WA. He's up +9 in both WI and MI. The same polling company has Trump up +5 in PA, which seems like an outlier. The polling company that conducted the polls for WI, MI, and PA is a new polling company that doesn't have a rating. It's interesting that this is the first poll that shows a start difference between PA and WI/MI. Not only that, it shows a convincing lead for Trump. While it may be an outlier, I'll keep this on here until it is superceded by a new poll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 661 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 @vcczar You forgot to mention it in your write-up but I see you reflected it on the map: Biden just got a good poll out of GA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 59 minutes ago, Reagan04 said: @vcczar You forgot to mention it in your write-up but I see you reflected it on the map: Biden just got a good poll out of GA It's in the write up for yesterday. I posted two maps yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert Hoover 199 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Reagan04 If Biden does actually do the unthinkable and win Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and maybe even some completely unexpected typically Republican state, how do Republicans respond in the future? Do you believe they'd write it off as the unlikability of Trump or would there be some genuine fear of those states being at play more consistently? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Herbert Hoover said: @Reagan04 If Biden does actually do the unthinkable and win Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and maybe even some completely unexpected typically Republican state, how do Republicans respond in the future? Do you believe they'd write it off as the unlikability of Trump or would there be some genuine fear of those states being at play more consistently? I was reading that if the economy gets worse that Biden could win MO, but I can't seem him winning any state that has poll +20 for Trump at any time in the last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 661 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Herbert Hoover said: @Reagan04 If Biden does actually do the unthinkable and win Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and maybe even some completely unexpected typically Republican state, how do Republicans respond in the future? Do you believe they'd write it off as the unlikability of Trump or would there be some genuine fear of those states being at play more consistently? We are likely going to respond by going to war with ourselves in 2024. While I doubt Trump runs again if he gets slammed in 2020 (which he likely will), if he did, that would pose lots and lots of challenges. Ultimately, I think the only viable way forward for the party is to promote female and minority conservatives and expand the outreach of our party and our message by making major reforms. This only happens if Biden wins in a landslide, which is why I'm pulling so hard for it. I often hear the phrase country over party and while I agree with that that's not really what I'm doing. Yes, it will absolutely be better for the country that we get our asses kicked this time around. But it will be even better for the long term success of the Republican Party to get our asses kicked and actually be able to govern with a semblance of integrity in days to come. Long story short, we need our asses kicked into gear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert Hoover 199 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Reagan04 said: We are likely going to respond by going to war with ourselves in 2024. While I doubt Trump runs again if he gets slammed in 2020 (which he likely will), if he did, that would pose lots and lots of challenges. Ultimately, I think the only viable way forward for the party is to promote female and minority conservatives and expand the outreach of our party and our message by making major reforms. This only happens if Biden wins in a landslide, which is why I'm pulling so hard for it. I often hear the phrase country over party and while I agree with that that's not really what I'm doing. Yes, it will absolutely be better for the country that we get our asses kicked this time around. But it will be even better for the long term success of the Republican Party to get our asses kicked and actually be able to govern with a semblance of integrity in days to come. Long story short, we need our asses kicked into gear. Your analysis is eerily similar to what I heard from some Democrats in 2016 that voted for Trump. They believed that the rejection of the establishment Clinton would lead to the Democratic Party embracing progressive/anti corruption ideals, and saw Trump’s victory as a necessary evil to revamp the Democratic Party in the same way you see Biden and the Republican Party. It didn’t work out how progressives hoped in 2016. Hopefully Republicans steer away from Trump as you mentioned rather than lean into him four years from now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avatarmushi 6 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 President: general election Wis. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 875 LV Biden 48% 38% Trump Biden +10 President: general election Mich. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 970 LV Biden 47% 39% Trump Biden +8 President: general election Pa. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 963 LV Biden 48% 39% Trump Biden +9 President: general election Fla. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 1,014 LV Biden 45% 43% Trump Biden +2 President: general election N.C. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 859 LV Biden 45% 43% Trump Biden +2 President: general election Ariz. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 946 LV Biden 45% 41% Trump Biden +4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, avatarmushi said: President: general election Wis. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 875 LV Biden 48% 38% Trump Biden +10 President: general election Mich. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 970 LV Biden 47% 39% Trump Biden +8 President: general election Pa. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 963 LV Biden 48% 39% Trump Biden +9 President: general election Fla. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 1,014 LV Biden 45% 43% Trump Biden +2 President: general election N.C. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 859 LV Biden 45% 43% Trump Biden +2 President: general election Ariz. MAY 10-14, 2020 Redfield & Wilton Strategies 946 LV Biden 45% 41% Trump Biden +4 Thanks, these were posted after I made these maps. Let me update the map. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 May 21 Map (late night addition): Biden takes back PA, getting +9 in the latest poll to Trump's +5 in a same day poll. Biden also flips NC. However, Trump decreases the Biden's lead in MI and AZ: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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