Your Presidential Personality Type 2.0

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8 minutes ago, Patine said:

Notable on Henry VIII and his ministers. One can actually divide his reign, and whole style and way and view of governing, in two, largely based on chief ministers. When Thomas More was his chief minister, he was a staunch supporter of the Pope, fought personally in two of the Italian Wars, made a peace with Francois I, King of France (largely in alliance against the Holy Roman Emperor, Archduke of Austria, King of Bohemia, and a bunch of other titles Karl V, who was also Carlos I, King of Spain, and thus had that huge and lucrative colonial empire), and he made a whole book making a retort and rebuke to Martin Luther, defending the Sacraments and Supremacy of the Church. This was also the period his two daughters were born, and he named them Mary and Elizabeth, after the mothers of Christ and John the Baptist, respectively, names previously nearly unheard of among English princesses. During the period Thomas Cromwell (the great uncle of Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell), he divorced or executed five of his six wives (the sixth outlived him), declared himself Sovereign Head of the Church of England, declared Cromwell the first non-Catholic Archbishop of Canterbury, had the rites and sacraments changed (largely by Cromwell) and the allowance of divorce under certain circumstances, and fearing his only son Edward might not live long enough to marry, passed the Act of Parliament that enabled a Queen Regnant to be coronated and ascended to the English throne. The periods of More and Cromwell as Henry VIII's chief minister mark a stark line of different periods in his reign.

Yeah, and Cardinal Wolesey 

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1 minute ago, Reagan04 said:

please do

I might do that. I'm also trying to determine if I want to add another letter to the whole system. 

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On 11/3/2019 at 2:32 PM, vcczar said:

This is one of the types that I don't have a president or a candidate for.  I'd say Elizabeth Warren (APIM) or Pete Buttigieg, William Seward , or George McGovern (three APIMs), are kind of cousins to whatever candidate would land at APIA. 

 

I wonder why there isn't a President with this personality type. Do you think it doesn't lend well to a national campaign? 

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3 minutes ago, Sunnymentoaddict said:

I wonder why there isn't a President with this personality type. Do you think it doesn't lend well to a national campaign? 

It's probably just that we haven't had a president or major candidate with that type. I think about 10 of the types don't have anyone attached to them. If I went through more historical candidates one could show up. I plan on considering more people when I have time to think about it. I think the most ill-fitted presidential type for the 21st version of this office is probably an INIS, which also has no representative. 

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16 minutes ago, vcczar said:

INIS

This is like Rick Santorum or something. 

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13 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

This is like Rick Santorum or something. 

NI for sure. I'd have to think about whether or not he'd be an M on that first or last letter. He could be. 

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53 minutes ago, vcczar said:

NI for sure. I'd have to think about whether or not he'd be an M on that first or last letter. He could be. 

What would the biggest and highest polling most visible U.S. Presidential candidate not running on either major party label in my lifetime (Ross Perot, RIP), have, would you say?

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24 minutes ago, Patine said:

What would the biggest and highest polling most visible U.S. Presidential candidate not running on either major party label in my lifetime (Ross Perot, RIP), have, would you say?

His type? AMCS, which is actually a very common type. A lot of politicians got pooled into this group. I'd argue that if Perot had some political experience and jumped into the race as someone that had been out of politics just long enough to appear as an outside, he would have won more votes--both from those wanting an outsider and those too cautious to support a non-politician. 

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@vcczar Would you agree with my assessment of Cruz as an AMIS.

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11 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

@vcczar Would you agree with my assessment of Cruz as an AMIS.

I have him as an ANIM, he's geared towards shutting things down in his language and he's rarely uplifting except when talking about Christian values. He's often much more realistic in his rhetoric than hopeful. I seem him very likely to veto legislation he disagrees with, even if it is passed by his own party or if it is wildly popular. Based off my descriptions he fits N significantly more than he does P. As it isn't so much a toss up, he's placed here.  As for the last letter, I originally had him with "S," but as he was so conciliatory to Trump and stay shockingly quiet during the Trump era in regards to things he'd generally disagree with, I moved him back to "M." I think he's contriving himself to become more electable in 2024 or 2028. This is something an "S" won't usually do. 

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Here's a list of all the politicians I've considered. Remember, it's very hypothetical for any politician that never served as president:

APIS - n/a 

APIM - Warren

APIA - n/a 

APMS - ThRoosevelt, Al Smith, RFK

APMM- Lincoln, FDR, Wilkie

APMA- n/a 

APCS- La Follette

APCM- Greeley

APCA- n/a 

MPIS- Yang

MPIM- Jefferson

MPIA- JFK, Obama

MPMS- n/a 

MPMM- Franklin, O'Rourke

MPMA- Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Booker

MPCS- WHHarrison

MPCM- Reagan

MPCA- Bush II, Biden

IPIS- n/a 

IPIM- n/a 

IPIA- Lodge Jr

IPMS - n/a

IPMM - Arthur

IPMA - Curtis 

IPCS - Williamson

IPCM- n/a 

IPCA - Harding, Edwards, Perry

AMIS- Chase, Stein, MacArthur

AMIM- Wilson, Hamilton

AMIA- Seward, Buttigieg, McGovern, Harriman

AMMS- Burr, Kefauver, Nixon, Norris

AMMM- Douglas, Blaine, McCain, Clay, Dean

AMMA- Humphrey, Fiorina

AMCS- Jackson, Grant, Bryan, Fremont, HP Long, LBJ, Jesse Jackson, AOC, Perot

AMCM- Truman

AMCA- n/a

MMIS- McClellan, E McCarthy

MMIM- Hughes, Rockefeller, Weld, Lodge Sr

MMIA-Taft, Hoover, Dewey, AStevenson2, Klobuchar, Wagner, Jeb Bush

MMMS- n/a

MMMM- Washington, Eisenhower

MMMA- Van Buren, Polk, Pierce, Hayes, McKinley, Bush I, Mondale, Romney, PRyan, Rubio, Huckabee

MMCS- Palin, Gabbard, S Adams

MMCM- n/a

MMCA- Cass

IMIS- n/a

IMIM- ABParker

IMIA- Garfield, J Sherman, Dukakis

IMMS- n/a

IMMM- n/a

IMMA- HSeymour, Pence, Landon

IMCS- BCarson

IMCM- Fillmore

IMCA- Monroe, Quayle, Ford

ANIS- JAdams, JQAdams, HA Wallace, Carter

ANIM- Cruz, Cannon, Graham

ANIA- KHarris

ANMS- WScott, Kucinich, Sanders

ANMM- Conkling, Gingrich, Christie

ANMA- Cotton, Pelosi

ANCS- Taylor, AJohnson, Trump, JMcCarthy, Debs

ANCM- n/a

ANCA- n/a

MNIS- Calhoun, Ron Paul, Santorum, WL Garrison

MNIM- WTSherman, Kasich

MNIA- Webster, Gore, Kerry, Barbara Jordan

MNMS- Tyler, Goldwater, Rand Paul

MNMM- Tilden, JeffDavis, Cleveland, Flake

MNMA- Dole, Cheney, McConnell

MNCS- Thurmond, P Buchanan, G Wallace, R Moore

MNCM- n/a

MNCA- n/a

INIS- Lieberman

INIM- Dawes, R Taft

INIA- Madison, HClinton, Vandenberg

INMS- C Coolidge

INMM- J Buchanan

INMA- C Powell

INCS- G Johnson, Gravel

INCM- n/a

INCA- n/a

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Here’s the list in the post above. I may have added some people since telling you who you matched up with 

 

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