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1 hour ago, Patine said:

Where's the Workers' Struggle and that Lyndon LaRouche-based party? Hell, where's the Green Party?

In the new campaign you will have:

LREM and Modem(Macron)

LR (Right)

UDI(center right)

DVD(right wing independents)

FN(Le Pen)

PS(Socialists)

DVG (Left wing independents)

FI(Melenchon, left wing populism)

PCF(communists)

EELV(the greens)

DLF (right wing populism)

EXD (far right independents)

REG (regionalists)

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

Replace it with a NOTA vote. That option should be a LOT more common - in fact, every First World nation should have it.

And if NOTA is the majority?

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6 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

And if NOTA is the majority?

Then ALL the other parties know they've collectively failed the people, and the whole political system needs SERIOUS review, and a LOT of people, parties, organization in government and politics need to permanently lose their jobs. Maybe a new Constitution with directly elected delegates, not ones selected by, or requiring the approval or participation, of the incumbent government.

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Just now, NYrepublican said:

Please show me where it works in practice. We have a pretty good sample size of democracies.

It's a hypothetical system. But the real question is, what alternative to what I suggest would you say would be equitable if a ballot option that was measurable showed that a majority of voters disapproved of ALL parties and candidates running. How would you suggest dealing with utter lack of popular support for all the political players and potential political players - a socio-political catastrophe in the making, realistically speaking. Offer me a more pragmatic solution than all political candidates and parties losing and a new Constitutional convention being elected by popularly elected delegates to produce a new Constitution with no need for approval or participation by the incumbent government. What's a better way to handle the dire situation that EVERY party and candidate had lost popular support and it could be quantified and shown?

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3 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

Can't wait for the new one @lizarraba I played the old one and here's the result 

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LR-UDI- 167 (68 Socialist confidence and supply - just for fun lol)

REM- 141

FN- 79 

PS- 68

FI- 61

MODEM- 41

DVG - 7

REG - 6

DVD - 3

EELV - 2

LS - 1

DLF - 1

 

FN 79 lmao, that's 65% of the candidates(79 of 122). Good.

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30 minutes ago, lizarraba said:

FN 79 lmao, that's 65% of the candidates(79 of 122). Good.

What does the "Francais etablis hors de France" region represent? I know that being Canadian, I'm expected, by international stereotype, to be fluent in both French and English, but only a statistical minority of Canadians are. :P

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14 hours ago, Patine said:

What does the "Francais etablis hors de France" region represent? I know that being Canadian, I'm expected, by international stereotype, to be fluent in both French and English, but only a statistical minority of Canadians are. :P

French residents living outside France. For example the fifth constituency covers frenchies living in Spain, Portugal, Andorra and Monaco.

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On 6/14/2019 at 1:57 PM, NYrepublican said:

And if NOTA is the majority?

 

On 6/14/2019 at 2:06 PM, Patine said:

Then ALL the other parties know they've collectively failed the people, and the whole political system needs SERIOUS review, and a LOT of people, parties, organization in government and politics need to permanently lose their jobs. Maybe a new Constitution with directly elected delegates, not ones selected by, or requiring the approval or participation, of the incumbent government.


Nevada already has "None of These Candidates" as an option, although I take issue with their method for dealing with the situation - if "None of These Candidates" wins, the victory merely goes to the candidate who won the most votes - making this option kind of pointless.  I'd prefer the result live up to the name, and a new election held with all previous candidates disqualified from running.

This actually happened in the Democratic primary for the 2014 gubernatorial election.  Bob Goodman became the Democratic nominee, despite coming in second to "None of These Candidates".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Nevada_gubernatorial_election

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