Any chance Trump resigns still?

[vcczar 1,224]

This is an interesting article. I know it’s coming from a Democrat, but she seems to suggest that the judiciary committee has more information about Trump’s problems than we know about. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-will-resign-soon-dianne-feinstein-senator-senate-judiciary-committee-a7639341.html

I’m too pessimistic to think Trump will resign, and I think he’d rather get dragged out than give up an office that fits his attention seeking needs. 

[Actinguy 862]

I sincerely believed that Trump was going to drop out of the race even after he won the nomination. 

Three years later, my view has shifted dramatically.

I now sincerely believe that he will NEVER resign.

If he is defeated in 2020, he will say "FAKE NEWS!" and stay in the White House.

Even after 2024, he's going to stay in the White House.

He will be there until the day he dies.

[vcczar 1,224]

7 minutes ago, Actinguy said:

I sincerely believed that Trump was going to drop out of the race even after he won the nomination. 

Three years later, my view has shifted dramatically.

I now sincerely believe that he will NEVER resign.

If he is defeated in 2020, he will say "FAKE NEWS!" and stay in the White House.

Even after 2024, he's going to stay in the White House.

He will be there until the day he dies.

Maybe they’ll wall him in like the Cask of Amontillado, except they’d have to lure him in with shiny objects rather than alcohol.  

[Actinguy 862]

Just now, vcczar said:

Maybe they’ll wall him in like the Cask of Amontillado, except they’d have to lure him in with shiny objects rather than alcohol.  

I like it.  I was going to suggest just moving "The White House" to a different building.

 

[Sean F. Kennedy 14]

43 minutes ago, Actinguy said:

I sincerely believed that Trump was going to drop out of the race even after he won the nomination. 

Three years later, my view has shifted dramatically.

I now sincerely believe that he will NEVER resign.

If he is defeated in 2020, he will say "FAKE NEWS!" and stay in the White House.

Even after 2024, he's going to stay in the White House.

He will be there until the day he dies.

Well then he'll be escorted out in shame like the little baby he is

[admin_270 844]

When Michael Moore predicted Trump would drop out before the election, is sounded like wishful thinking to me. Then the opposite happened - perhaps the worst scandal to hit a candidate before an election dropped, and Trump just shrugged it off, while campaigning at a furious pace in swing states.

Given what I know about Trump's psychology, the question to me isn't whether the Dems might be able to dig something up related to, say, his finances, but why would he resign? It seems he would fight, and fight, and fight it, and use it as a rallying call to the Republican base (something like a 'witch hunt').

[Actinguy 862]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Insano said:

Well then he'll be escorted out in shame like the little baby he is

I'm all for that, but I think it's notable that we don't actually have an obvious way to do that.  Whose jurisdiction would this be?  DC Police?  Secret Service?  Military?  FBI?  There would be chaos -- much like everything else in his presidency.

[Patine 469]

7 minutes ago, admin_270 said:

When Michael Moore predicted Trump would drop out before the election, is sounded like wishful thinking to me. Then the opposite happened - perhaps the worst scandal to hit a candidate before an election dropped, and Trump just shrugged it off, while campaigning at a furious pace in swing states.

Given what I know about Trump's psychology, the question to me isn't whether the Dems might be able to dig something up related to, say, his finances, but why would he resign? It seems he would fight, and fight, and fight it, and use it as a rallying call to the Republican base (something like a 'witch hunt').

Perhaps his health? He's a little over 70, noticably overweight, lacking regular exercise, with a penchant for fast foods and soft drinks, and his schedule as President isn't exactly kindly either.

[admin_270 844]

1 minute ago, Patine said:

Perhaps his health? He's a little over 70, noticably overweight, lacking regular exercise, with a penchant for fast foods and soft drinks, and his schedule as President isn't exactly kindly either.

Something could happen, but there's no indication of any problems. As POTUS, he is receiving probably the best medical attention in the world.

[Patine 469]

1 minute ago, admin_270 said:

Something could happen, but there's no indication of any problems. As POTUS, he is receiving probably the best medical attention in the world.

No, the King of Saudi Arabia, the Emir of Dubai, Tim Cook, Warren Buffet, George Soros, the Koch Brothers, Mark Zuckerberg, the British Royal Family, the Prince of Liechtenstein, and the Pope, and possibly even Oprah Winfrey, have better medical care than Trump, apparently - but certainly Trump has one of the very top of the line. But when push comes to shove, even fictitious, science-fiction, super-technology, spacefaring 23rd Century medicine led to the line, "It's worse than that Jim! He's dead!" There is ALWAYS a point of no return or when doing anything but comforting the dying is not possible in medicine. And Trump has not been kind to his body for decades before entering the White House. I'm not making a prophecy of pestilent doom - just pointing out the limits of said medicine. And, knowing Trump's ego, he might be suppressing health rumours from reaching the public. Again, I don't claim to know for sure - I'm just pointing things out.

[SilentLiberty 219]

I hesitate to even put that there is a 10% chance.

 

Though to those of you who believe, truthfully, that Trump would become a dictator like figure and refuse to leave is quite frankly baffling to me. I think Trump will be more than happy to live his life as an ex president constantly sticking his finger in the pie, so much so when his time comes to leave I think he will do so without the least bit of a fight. He'll very likely make snide comments on twitter but I don't think he's going to go kicking and screaming putting his feet up on the sides of the door when they try to carry him out. We don't exactly live in a adult swim cartoon regardless of how much it may feel like it at times.

[Patine 469]

38 minutes ago, SilentLiberty said:

I hesitate to even put that there is a 10% chance.

 

Though to those of you who believe, truthfully, that Trump would become a dictator like figure and refuse to leave is quite frankly baffling to me. I think Trump will be more than happy to live his life as an ex president constantly sticking his finger in the pie, so much so when his time comes to leave I think he will do so without the least bit of a fight. He'll very likely make snide comments on twitter but I don't think he's going to go kicking and screaming putting his feet up on the sides of the door when they try to carry him out. We don't exactly live in a adult swim cartoon regardless of how much it may feel like it at times.

Even though I have given his Presidency, and his attitude and manner of behaviour in the White House, a lot of criticism, and I've acknowledged he admires dictators openly, and, at times, seems to chafe at the Constitutional limits of his office, and that he has a "cult of personality" around him, and even that his electoral style in 2016 was a vapid, vitriolic, emotion-driven, promise-the-moon, short-on-details, unrealistic-and-grandiose-promise-laden, and playing-on-a-sense-of-depracated-national-pride style that many nefarious politicians elsewhere have used (including, very infamously, Hitler - though, other than that and bad combovers, I haven't compared them directly or said there was really much else in common), I have, myself, never said Trump was a dictator, and, if he was trying to become one, he wasn't really that effective at it.

[admin_270 844]

3 minutes ago, Patine said:

Even though I have given his Presidency, and his attitude and manner of behaviour in the White House, a lot of criticism, and I've acknowledged he admires dictators openly, and, at times, seems to chafe at the Constitutional limits of his office, and that he has a "cult of personality" around him, and even that his electoral style in 2016 was a vapid, vitriolic, emotion-driven, promise-the-moon, short-on-details, unrealistic-and-grandiose-promise-laden, and playing-on-a-sense-of-depracated-national-pride style that many nefarious politicians elsewhere have used

If you replaced 2016 with 2008, you could easily be talking about Obama!

[Patine 469]

1 minute ago, admin_270 said:

If you replaced 2016 with 2008, you could easily be talking about Obama!

I do definitely have issues with Obama. For one, despite winning in 2008 on publicly denouncing a lot of the Bush (which made almost any Republican candidate - unless Ron Paul had somehow won the nomination) in a position where they almost certainly would have lost to any Democratic candidate (though MUCH more close of a race than the GOP's other guaranteed loss in 1932), he quietly carried on a lot of Bush era policies for most of his Presidency - the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, drone attacks - even against nations where no state of war existed, Guantanamo Bay, the (un)Patriot Act and all it entailed, the Department of Homeland Defense (the new American Gestapo or Stasi, if you read in the (un)Patriot Act the full powers they are theoretically able to bring to bear), etc. That was a big one that comes to mind - and these were things that effectively made the Bush Administration the biggest war criminals of the 21st Century to date for starting in the first place, worthy of a tribunal akin to Nuremberg.

[pilight 237]

He won't resign.  There's still a slim chance that he won't run again.

[Reagan04 658]

7 hours ago, Patine said:

Even though I have given his Presidency, and his attitude and manner of behaviour in the White House, a lot of criticism, and I've acknowledged he admires dictators openly, and, at times, seems to chafe at the Constitutional limits of his office, and that he has a "cult of personality" around him, and even that his electoral style in 2016 was a vapid, vitriolic, emotion-driven, promise-the-moon, short-on-details, unrealistic-and-grandiose-promise-laden, and playing-on-a-sense-of-depracated-national-pride style that many nefarious politicians elsewhere have used (including, very infamously, Hitler - though, other than that and bad combovers, I haven't compared them directly or said there was really much else in common), I have, myself, never said Trump was a dictator, and, if he was trying to become one, he wasn't really that effective at it.

Holy shit, this is one sentence. 143 words! @HonestAbe

[Edouard 121]

Since Mueller report, there's 0 chances that Trump resign.

[Patine 469]

Just now, Reagan04 said:

Holy shit, this is one sentence. 136 words! @HonestAbe

Resorting to "grammar Naziism" is a classic sign on the Internet of admitting complete and utter rhetorical and debate defeat and capitulation.

[Edouard 121]

1 minute ago, Patine said:

Resorting to "grammar Naziism" is a classic sign on the Internet of admitting complete and utter rhetorical and debate defeat and capitulation.

HOLY SHIT THE ELECTORAL NIGHT IN ALBERTA IS NOW

I missed it  

[Reagan04 658]

1 minute ago, Patine said:

Resorting to "grammar Naziism" is a classic sign on the Internet of admitting complete and utter rhetorical and debate defeat and capitulation.

I updated my count to 143 by the way, I missed a few things. And I really don't care what you're talking about, you know I've mostly resigned from these debates, but that hasn't dulled my fascination in your uncanny ability to fit as many clauses as humanly possible into one sentence. If Brevity is the soul of wit sir, you must be fun at parties 

[Patine 469]

3 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

I updated my count to 143 by the way, I missed a few things. And I really don't care what you're talking about, you know I've mostly resigned from these debates, but that hasn't dulled my fascination in your uncanny ability to fit as many clauses as humanly possible into one sentence. If Brevity is the soul of wit sir, you must be fun at parties 

"Brevity is the soul of wit" is only one poet's opinion. Do you how many poets there've been? And some of them were known for long-winded and dense verse.

[Reagan04 658]

4 minutes ago, Patine said:

"Brevity is the soul of wit" is only one poet's opinion. Do you how many poets there've been? And some of them were known for long-winded and dense verse.

He may love to mince clauses in his great tomes of sentencecraft and yet he knows not of Conditional Clauses! Those preceded by "if", denoting a condition upon which the following clause is dependent!

[Patine 469]

1 minute ago, Reagan04 said:

He may love to mince clauses in his great tomes of sentencecraft and yet he knows not of Conditional Clauses! Those preceded by "if", denoting a condition upon which the following clause is dependent!

As my Grade 10 English Teacher said (way back when) when I commented on how many novelists, playwrights, and poets wrote in a manner that he would mark my paper blood-stained red with corrections if I did, "They have poetic licence - high school students do not."