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  1. 1. What is your political affiliation? (USA)

    • I consider myself to be a Republican
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    • I consider myself to be a Democrat
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    • I consider myself to be too far to the left to be a member of either party.
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    • I consider myself to be too far to the right to be a member of either party.
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    • I consider myself to be too far in the center to be a member of either party.
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    • I consider myself to be a member of a political party, but it isn't named above (name it in the comments?)
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I am a registered Republican due to Kentucky's election laws having a closed primary.  However, I have more of an independent mind.  Someone doesn't get my vote just because they are Republican.  They have to earn it.  I also don't fit very easily into the traditional left-right categories due to my libertarian leanings on some issues.

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I'm a British Labour Member and actually, a Labour Candidate for my borough's local elections in May, I would be in either the Democratic Socialists of America or Socialist Party USA if I lived there.

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41 minutes ago, Harris/Ernst 2020 said:

60's-80's even some of the 90's had some degree of bipartisanship no longer found in Washington.

It’s human nature to over value or over estimate our time in history. 

We are neither at the least or the most bipartisan moment in American history.  

(Although we might be in the most whiniest). **Disclaimer this is a snarky comment! It is not rooted in statistical data nor intended to offend the whiny.**

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3 hours ago, jvikings1 said:

I am a registered Republican due to Kentucky's election laws having a closed primary.  However, I have more of an independent mind.  Someone doesn't get my vote just because they are Republican.  They have to earn it.  I also don't fit very easily into the traditional left-right categories due to my libertarian leanings on some issues.

As I said above (and as I think you agreed), I think the State and Federal Electoral Agencies should be made to legally have to butt out of party registration and no longer manage party primaries, caucuses, or conventions. I further believe the two main parties in the U.S. should have their post-Soviet-state-style "party-of-power" system abolished and be deintengrated from the intimate and intrinsic apparatus of government, like ALL political parties, even powerful, long-standing contenders and incumbents, are in all other First World Nations (except arguably Fidesz in Hungary as of the 2010 Constitution there, and the People's Action Party in Singapore since their independence in the late 50's, but I'm not a fan of their party systems either).

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13 hours ago, Harris/Ernst 2020 said:

I agree. It's obvious I don't agree with what it's being used for, but he is literally going into unconstitutional territory that will likely be upheld by the Supreme Court should it reach it, which to me shows the sad state of our Constitutional Democracy. I long for the days of true compromise and bipartisanship. I wonder what it would take for us to get back to those days. 

It will NOT be upheld by the Supreme Court. However, it would not surprise me if he ignores the Supreme Court like several of the examples listed have. A la Jackson and Lincoln.

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3 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

It will NOT be upheld by the Supreme Court. However, it would not surprise me if he ignores the Supreme Court like several of the examples listed have. A la Jackson and Lincoln.

Well, the U.S. Supreme Court itself has proven it can make rulings that seem highly questionable, and perhaps even comprised or under corrupt influences, so I'm not sure it's fully trustworthy either.

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

Well, the U.S. Supreme Court itself has proven it can make rulings that seem highly questionable, and perhaps even comprised or under corrupt influences, so I'm not sure it's fully trustworthy either.

SCOTUS upholding this would HIGHLY surprise me. You've automatically got the RBG, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan block. Then all you need is any of the other 5 Justices, of whom I can see all 5 voting to strike it down. I see the most likely out come to be a 9-0 ruling that it's unconstitutional.

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1 minute ago, Reagan04 said:

SCOTUS upholding this would HIGHLY surprise me. You've automatically got the RBG, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan block. Then all you need is any of the other 5 Justices, of whom I can see all 5 voting to strike it down. I see the most likely out come to be a 9-0 ruling that it's unconstitutional.

In this particular case, you're probably more informed than I am. But a few past cases have appalled, or at least highly disappointed, on the basis of integrity.

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Democrats and Republican are still quite big to keep 80% of the electorate

I would personnaly be a New Hampshire Democrat, progressist on society but moderate on economy.

In the opposite I would confront a West Virginia Democrat like Joe Manchin who is left on economy for the mines and right on society due to church's influence on West Virginia.

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22 hours ago, Patine said:

As I said above (and as I think you agreed), I think the State and Federal Electoral Agencies should be made to legally have to butt out of party registration and no longer manage party primaries, caucuses, or conventions. I further believe the two main parties in the U.S. should have their post-Soviet-state-style "party-of-power" system abolished and be deintengrated from the intimate and intrinsic apparatus of government, like ALL political parties, even powerful, long-standing contenders and incumbents, are in all other First World Nations (except arguably Fidesz in Hungary as of the 2010 Constitution there, and the People's Action Party in Singapore since their independence in the late 50's, but I'm not a fan of their party systems either).

Agreed.  Parties should manage their members and fund their primary processes themselves.  Instead, the current system essentially subsidizes the 2 major parties.

13 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

It will NOT be upheld by the Supreme Court. However, it would not surprise me if he ignores the Supreme Court like several of the examples listed have. A la Jackson and Lincoln.

As Mike Lee has pointed out, Trump's declaration is probably allowed under current statutes passed by Congress which have delegated authority to the executive branch.  The Supreme Court would have to strike down those which would be a bold move (however, a welcome step back towards true separation of powers).  But, will the SC make sure a move?

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17 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

SCOTUS upholding this would HIGHLY surprise me. You've automatically got the RBG, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan block. Then all you need is any of the other 5 Justices, of whom I can see all 5 voting to strike it down. I see the most likely out come to be a 9-0 ruling that it's unconstitutional.

Only one I see maybe switching is Roberts, but IDK for sure. It's really a tossup, but I do think him admitting that he did't really need to declare an emergency might complicate things.

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19 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

SCOTUS upholding this would HIGHLY surprise me. You've automatically got the RBG, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan block. Then all you need is any of the other 5 Justices, of whom I can see all 5 voting to strike it down. I see the most likely out come to be a 9-0 ruling that it's unconstitutional.

 

6 hours ago, jvikings1 said:

Agreed.  Parties should manage their members and fund their primary processes themselves.  Instead, the current system essentially subsidizes the 2 major parties.

As Mike Lee has pointed out, Trump's declaration is probably allowed under current statutes passed by Congress which have delegated authority to the executive branch.  The Supreme Court would have to strike down those which would be a bold move (however, a welcome step back towards true separation of powers).  But, will the SC make sure a move?

 

1 hour ago, Harris/Ernst 2020 said:

Only one I see maybe switching is Roberts, but IDK for sure. It's really a tossup, but I do think him admitting that he did't really need to declare an emergency might complicate things.

The Star Wars Prequels Palpatine's tactics are coming to mind again, here...

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13 hours ago, Harris/Ernst 2020 said:

@Reagan04 @jvikings1 what's your opinion on the citizenship question that is being heard by SCOTUS

I don't really see a problem with asking about citizenship on the census.  Granted, I haven't looked into the case very much, so I'd be open to hearing what the argument against would be.

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31 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

I don't really see a problem with asking about citizenship on the census.  Granted, I haven't looked into the case very much, so I'd be open to hearing what the argument against would be.

I think the biggest argument is that having it on the census would keep some people from answering it for fear, protest etc. and that this number of absentees could be large enough to actually make the census inaccurate, possibly ruining the congressional map for the next 10 years. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-966/81777/20190125163240203_Dept of Commerce Pet App.pdf - ruling of the NY court that halted it. 

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4 hours ago, Rarename91 said:

i am not apart of party but i am hoping to switch to the republican party soon (could this be done online?

Depends on the state.  In Kentucky, you can register and make changes online.  However, some states don't have that.  In order to change, you'd need to go to your county clerk's office and fill out the form (or a local registration drive)

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8 hours ago, Rarename91 said:

i am not apart of party but i am hoping to switch to the republican party soon (could this be done online?

Ah, you're planning to join one of the two great American beehives of failure, lies, corruption, and expounding the same bad ideas again and again, hoping they'll one day work (or even delusionally pretending, and convincing yourself, they've always worked, despite obvious evidence) and drink the Kool-Aid deeply (the red Kool-Aid, rather than the blue Kool-Aid, but both are just as toxic in the end) and abdicate all privilege of free-thinking or questioning the line, even constructively, lest your new partisans throw all manners of reactionary, knee-jerk insults at you and suddenly alienate you. Congratulations on your political choice!

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Again the question is, what is a democrat and a republican?

State by state it's not the same.

 

A Republican in New York or Maryland like the current governor will exclusively focus on economy.

A Republicain in Alabama will essentially focus on society and could maybe even agree with some liberal stances on economy.

 

A Democrat in New Hampshire will focus on Society and be economically moderate, same for Missouri with McCaskle or Virginia with Tim Kaine.

A Democrat in West Virginia will focus on Economy as a good liberal like Joe Manchin does and could even be conservative on society.

 

So depending of your local state, being a moderate or a Republican really depend of what you mean.

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23 minutes ago, Edouard said:

Again the question is, what is a democrat and a republican?

State by state it's not the same.

 

A Republican in New York or Maryland like the current governor will exclusively focus on economy.

A Republicain in Alabama will essentially focus on society and could maybe even agree with some liberal stances on economy.

 

A Democrat in New Hampshire will focus on Society and be economically moderate, same for Missouri with McCaskle or Virginia with Tim Kaine.

A Democrat in West Virginia will focus on Economy as a good liberal like Joe Manchin does and could even be conservative on society.

 

So depending of your local state, being a moderate or a Republican really depend of what you mean.

Also, I ask you this - what benefit would declaring ourselves, personally and specifically, members of a political party we cannot vote for, cannot stand for election on behalf of, cannot legally given campaign donations or volunteer campaigning time to, and who only affect us in policy by certain foreign and trade affairs and the collateral affect of a few domestic policies, @Edouard?

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5 minutes ago, Patine said:

Also, I ask you this - what benefit would declaring ourselves, personally and specifically, members of a political party we cannot vote for, cannot stand for election on behalf of, cannot legally given campaign donations or volunteer campaigning time to, and who only affect us in policy by certain foreign and trade affairs and the collateral affect of a few domestic policies, @Edouard?

Don't underestimate our soft power Patine 😛

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11 hours ago, Patine said:

Also, I ask you this - what benefit would declaring ourselves, personally and specifically, members of a political party we cannot vote for, cannot stand for election on behalf of, cannot legally given campaign donations or volunteer campaigning time to, and who only affect us in policy by certain foreign and trade affairs and the collateral affect of a few domestic policies, @Edouard?

The same benefit as declaring yourself members of a party you can vote for...

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