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3 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

Got a bad headache rn, think you can pick for me this time my homie?

Sure, I'd go with docking from Libertarians in Nebraska and Louisiana, Moderates in Mississippi and Kansas, and maybe Moderates in Nebraska and Louisiana too?

My thoughts here are, all of these groups are 10%ers. And they are all already weak groups for you.

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Just now, Reagan04 said:

Sure, I'd go with docking from Libertarians in Nebraska and Louisiana, Moderates in Mississippi and Kansas, and maybe Moderates in Nebraska and Louisiana too?

My thoughts here are, all of these groups are 10%ers. And they are all already weak groups for you.

Sounds good for me fam, appreciate you homie.

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1 hour ago, Actinguy said:

This game looks awesome, sad that I'm clearly too late to join this round.  I'd love to join if you play again next time -- and is it possible to see the google doc?  I'd like to get a better understanding of the rules.

Thank you!

If you have a gmail account, then I can share the link. It’s in a rough draft form and the rules are partially being made as we play through this. The second playthrough will be more polished. We aren’t using all the mechanics that will probably be included, for instance. 

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2 hours ago, Actinguy said:

This game looks awesome, sad that I'm clearly too late to join this round.  I'd love to join if you play again next time -- and is it possible to see the google doc?  I'd like to get a better understanding of the rules.

Thank you!

Yeah, I'm actually planning on hosting another round where I don't play, see if I can get a bunch of people together, for fun because I enjoy running the game.

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7 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

Yeah, I'm actually planning on hosting another round where I don't play, see if I can get a bunch of people together, for fun because I enjoy running the game.

Let’s wait until we finish this, and improve the rules based off this playthrough, then we can tag all the active forum members and see who wants to join in. I probably won’t play either and just stick to drafting the rules. We need to clearly institute the 24 hour rule and also allow players to have a set forumula that we can use for them if they are the last person we are waiting for. I imagine it may take me up to a week to get rules 2.0 ready. The demographics will be adjusted, as will the candidate numbers also. I’m going to tag you to an excel document for formulating more accurate demographics sometime soon. 

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6 minutes ago, Actinguy said:

Thanks!  Tried PM'ing you @vcczar with my email address but it said you can't accept messages.

Try now. Deleted some messages to make room. 

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44 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Let’s wait until we finish this, and improve the rules based off this playthrough, then we can tag all the active forum members and see who wants to join in. I probably won’t play either and just stick to drafting the rules. We need to clearly institute the 24 hour rule and also allow players to have a set forumula that we can use for them if they are the last person we are waiting for. I imagine it may take me up to a week to get rules 2.0 ready. The demographics will be adjusted, as will the candidate numbers also. I’m going to tag you to an excel document for formulating more accurate demographics sometime soon. 

Yeah, that's what I meant.

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I'm really struggling to interpret the debate rules.  Mostly because "points" and "die rolls" are sometimes used interchangeably.  Actually "points" seems to have a three or four definitions just in the debate section alone.  

Say the debate is...(with the die roll in parentheses)

Biden (5) attacks Beto(4) on Millennials.
Castro(4) attacks Tulsi (6) on Progressives.
Tulsi (6) attacks Biden (6) on Millenials.
Beto (1) attacks Castro (6) on Progressives.
Harris (3) attacks Warren (3) on Millenials.
Warren (1) attacks Harris (1) on Millenials.

What would those results be?  (I tried to set up as many combos there to give good examples for the rules)

 

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47 minutes ago, Actinguy said:

I'm really struggling to interpret the debate rules.  Mostly because "points" and "die rolls" are sometimes used interchangeably.  Actually "points" seems to have a three or four definitions just in the debate section alone.  

Say the debate is...(with the die roll in parentheses)

Biden (5) attacks Beto(4) on Millennials.
Castro(4) attacks Tulsi (6) on Progressives.
Tulsi (6) attacks Biden (6) on Millenials.
Beto (1) attacks Castro (6) on Progressives.
Harris (3) attacks Warren (3) on Millenials.
Warren (1) attacks Harris (1) on Millenials.

What would those results be?  (I tried to set up as many combos there to give good examples for the rules)

 

Biden would have 1

Castro 3

Tulsi 2

Beto -6

Harris 0

Warren 0

Castro would win the debate and earn 1 point towards the next phase. Beto would lose 1 pt towards the next phase for flopping. Castro would also gain +1 on Progressives in the next phase and Beto would lose -1 on Progressives on the next phase. 

The confusion is that there are debate points, campaign points, and demographic points. 

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Democratic Primary Results!

D-KS Liberals - 30% Progressives - 20% Millennials - 20% Blacks - 10% Hispanic-Asians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 40 Delegates
Gillibrand 15 8 4 2.5 7.5 2 39% - 16 Delegates
Biden 5 4 3 7.5 0 4 23.5% - 9 Delegates
Sanders 0 8 10 0 0 4 22% - 9 Delegates
O’Rourke 10 0 3 0 2.5 0 15.5% - 6 Delegates
               
D-LA Blacks - 30% Liberals - 20% Millennials - 20% Progressive - 10% Hispanic-Asians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 60 Delegates
Biden 20 10 0 0 2.5 5 37.5% - 23 Delegates
O’Rourke 10 2.5 10 2 2.5 0 27% - 16 Delegates
Sanders 0 2.5 10 5 2.5 5 25% - 15 Delegates
Gillibrand 0 5 0 3 2.5 0 10.5% - 6 Delegates
               
D-NE Liberals - 30% Progressives - 20% Millennials - 20% Blacks - 10% Hispanic-Asians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 30 Delegates
Gillibrand 10 10 10 6 5 6 47% - 14 Delegates
Biden 20 3 5 4 0 4 36% - 11 Delegates
Sanders 0 4 0 0 5 0 9% - 3 Delegates
O’Rourke 0 3 5 0 0 0 8% - 2 Delegates
               
D-ME Progressives - 30% Liberals - 20% Millennials - 20% Blacks - 10% Hispanic-Asians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 30 Delegates
Sanders 10 2.5 15 0 0 4 31.5% - 9 Delegates
Biden 10 7.5 0 7.5 3 3 31% - 9 Delegates
Gillibrand 5 5 5 2.5 5 3 25.5% - 8 Delegates
O’Rourke 5 5 0 0 2 0 12% - 4 Delegates
               
D-MI Progressives - 30% Blacks - 20% Liberals - 20% Millennials - 10% Hispanic-Asians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 150 Delegates
Biden 7.5 15 10 2.5 4 2 41% - 61 Delegates
Gillibrand 7.5 2 5 5 0 4 23.5% - 35 Delegates
Sanders 15 3 1 0 0 2 21% - 32 Delegates
O’Rourke 0 0 4 2.5 6 2 14.5% - 22 Delegates
               
D-MS Blacks - 30% Liberals - 20% Millennials - 20% Progressives - 10% Hispanic-Asians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 40 Delegates
Biden 25 8 4 3 5 5 50% - 20 Delegates
Gillibrand 5 1 10 2 2 5 25% - 10 Delegates
O’Rourke 0 8 2 2 3 0 15% - 6 Delegates
Sanders 0 3 4 3 0 0 10% - 4 Delegates

D-NoM 10 Delegates
Biden 5+6=11 (4 Delegates)
Gillibrand 2+5=7 (3 Delegates)
O'Rourke 3+1=4 (1 Delegate)
Sanders 1+4=5 (2 Delegates)
   
D-DA 20 Delegates
Biden 5+5=10 (10 Delegates)
O'Rourke 3+1=4 (3 Delegates)
Sanders 1+1=2 (1 Delegate)
Gillibrand 2+4=6 (6 Delegates)

Candidate Before (Del.) Gain After Before (State) Gain After
Biden 526 133 659 9 5 14
O'Rourke 459 56 515 4 0 4
Gillibrand 358 89 447 2 2 4
Sanders 373 72 445 3 1 4

Biden gains two points, one for winning the most states and one for winning the marquee state of Michigan. O'Rourke, for gaining the fewest delegates, gets a -1 for the next state. These numbers are subject to change by the next debate, seeing as they are smaller numbers they likely will be altered.

Republican Primary Results

R-KS MAGA - 30% Christians - 20% Libertarians - 20% Neocons - 10% Moderates - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 40 Delegates
Cruz 20 10 15 2 0 3 50% - 20 Delegates
Kasich 5 3 0 4 10 7 29% - 12 Delegates
Trump 5 7 5 4 0 0 21% - 8 Delegates
               
R-LA Christians - 30% MAGA - 20% Neocons - 20% Libertarians - 10% Moderates - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 50 Delegates
Cruz 20 5 5 5 4 4 43% - 22 Delegates
Trump 10 15 0 0 4 2 31% - 15 Delegates
Kasich 0 0 15 5 2 4 26% - 13 Delegates
               
R-NE MAGA - 30% Christians - 20% Neocons - 20% Libertarians - 10% Moderates - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 40 Delegates
Trump 20 15 10 7.5 2.5 7 62% - 40 Delegates
Cruz 10 5 10 2.5 0 0 27.5% - 0 Delegates
Kasich 0 0 0 0 7.5 3 10.5% - 0 Delegates
               
R-ME Moderates - 30% Libertarians - 20% Neocons - 20% Christians - 10% MAGA - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 20 Delegates
Kasich 20 7.5 10 0 2.5 5 45% - 9 Delegates
Cruz 0 7.5 7 7 2.5 4 28% - 6 Delegates
Trump 10 5 3 3 5 1 27% - 5 Delegates
               
R-MI MAGA - 30% Moderates - 20% Libertarians - 20% Neocons - 10% Christians - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 60 Delegates
Cruz 20 2.5 15 4 7.5 4 53% - 60 Delegates
Kasich 5 15 5 4 0 6 35% - 0 Delegates
Trump 5 2.5 0 2 2.5 0 12% - 0 Delegates
               
R-MS Christians - 30% MAGA - 20% Neocons - 20% Libertarians - 10% Moderates - 10% Misc - 10% Total - 40 Delegates
Cruz 25 3 10 5 4 6 53% - 40 Delegates
Trump 5 15 10 2 2 4 38% - 0 Delegates
Kasich 0 2 0 3 4 0 9% - 0 Delegates

R-NoM 10 Delegates
Kasich 3+6=9 (4 Delegates)
Trump 1+6=7 (3 Delegates)
Cruz 2+4=6 (3 Delegates)

Candidate Before (Del.) Gain After Before (State) Gain After
Cruz 468 151 619 6 4 10
Kasich 343 38 381 5 2 7
Trump 162 71 233 4 1 5

Cruz earns two points, one for winning the most contests and the other for winning the marquee contest of Michigan. Kasich will lose -1 points for the next turn as of now for gaining the fewest delegates. These numbers are subject to change by debates and given their size they likely will be.

Up Next: Pre-Super Tuesday II (FL, IL, MO, NC, OH) Debates

Please submit your debate move(s)

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48 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

In hindsight I probably shouldn't have withdrawn Kasich but oh well

It would be interesting to see what he would have done. I know he would never endorse Trump, but I think he might be hesitant to endorse Cruz, for the same reason that George W. Bush said of Cruz, "I just don't like that guy." 

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37 minutes ago, vcczar said:

It would be interesting to see what he would have done. I know he would never endorse Trump, but I think he might be hesitant to endorse Cruz, for the same reason that George W. Bush said of Cruz, "I just don't like that guy." 

Yeah...I honestly believe he wouldn't probably endorse anyone. 

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8 minutes ago, Hestia11 said:

Yeah...I honestly believe he wouldn't probably endorse anyone. 

Not that he's actual required to. I wouldn't have endorsed either major candidate in 2016 myself, and I don't know if I'd endorse whoever the Democratic Primaries spit out in 2020, assuming I were in a position or office where my endorsement were sought or looked to.

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31 minutes ago, Patine said:

Not that he's actual required to. I wouldn't have endorsed either major candidate in 2016 myself, and I don't know if I'd endorse whoever the Democratic Primaries spit out in 2020, assuming I were in a position or office where my endorsement were sought or looked to.

Considering the opponent is Trump, I would probably endorse any Democrats just so as to not deter voters from voting. Trump must be a one-term president. At some point, Republicans will nominate a relatively tolerable presidential candidate again. For now, Democrats need all the support they can get, even if it ends up nominating Hillary Clinton again. 

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1 minute ago, vcczar said:

Considering the opponent is Trump, I would probably endorse any Democrats just so as to not deter voters from voting. Trump must be a one-term president. At some point, Republicans will nominate a relatively tolerable presidential candidate again. For now, Democrats need all the support they can get, even if it ends up nominating Hillary Clinton again. 

I'm afraid there are a couple who've thrown their hats in the ring (I don't know their polling numbers at all, though) who, if they won the Democratic nomination, I'm not sure I could get behind them anymore than I could have behind Clinton in 2016. Gabbard and Avanetti (I think was that horrible lawyer's name) come to mind off hand.

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