ThePotatoWalrus 471 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Primary Debate Results Democratic Debate Gillibrand 1/4=5 (attack on Sanders successful; Sanders loses a point and Gillibrand gains a point; she also gains a point for winning the debate ***Debate Winner***Biden  1/1=0 (Attack on O'Rourke mildly successful)O'Rourke -1/-1/4=2 (attack on Biden fails; gains a point on a defense)Gabbard -4 on (attack on O'Rourke backfires, loses a point)Sanders -1/-4=-5 (attack on Gillibrand fails; loses a point for flopping the debate) ***Debate Flop*** Republican DebateTrump 0/4/5/-1=8 (Attack on Kasich successful; gains point for winning debate) ***Debate Winner***Rubio 4 on Trump on MAGA (Attack on Kasich very successful; Rubio would gain a point if he didn't drop out after the debate. )Kasich 0/-4/1=-3 (attack on Trump deflected)Cruz -4 (attack on Trump backfires; loses a point and Trump gains)Paul -5 (major backfire on Trump attack; Paul loses a point and a temporary -1 on Christians for the NV and SC debates) ***Debate flop***In other news Rubio drops out and endorses Kasich, which gives Kasich another point. Points/deficit to split on SC and/or NV: The following points are NOT used on both SC and NV. They are used to be spread out to whichever state you wish to campaign. Remember to check the Google Doc, you can't have more than 5 or less than 1 in any demographic: Kasich 4 points to use on SC and/or NV Sanders 2 points Gillibrand 2 points Trump 2 points Paul loses -1 on Christians for SC and NV O'Rourke 1 point Gabbard -1 (must pick a state and demographic to take a hit) Up next: SC and NV Primaries  30% 20% 20% 10% 10% Nevada-D Loyalists Hispanic-Asians Millennials Left Blacks Nevada-R Libertarian MAGA Moderates Old Guard Christian   30% 20% 20% 10% 10% South Carolina-D Blacks Loyalists Millennials Left Hispanic-Asians South Carolina-R Old Guard MAGA Christian Libertarian Moderates  @Rodja @CalebsParadox @Reagan04 @ThePotatoWalrus @Hestia11 @lok1999 @vcczar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 @vcczar I might have done the math incorrectly, but doesn't Biden get a point? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hestia11 572 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Kasich - 1 point on Old Guard in South Carolina, one on Moderates in Nevada, and two on Christians in South Carolina. Gillibrand - 1 point on Hispanic-Asians in Nevada and 1 point on Blacks in South Carolina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePotatoWalrus 471 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Gabbard takes a hit from the Left in SC Trump campaigns for Christians in SC and Libertarian in Nevada  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Reagan04 said: @vcczar I might have done the math incorrectly, but doesn't Biden get a point? No. His attack O’Rourke was only mildly successful so he get a point or two for his debate score. He had a front runner bonus but it was cancelled out by losing NH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, vcczar said: No. His attack O’Rourke was only mildly successful so he get a point or two for his debate score. He had a front runner bonus but it was cancelled out by losing NH. But what about my bonus from the Klobuchar endorsement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Reagan04 said: But what about my bonus from the Klobuchar endorsement. Oh I forgot about that! You’re right. Biden gets a point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, vcczar said: Oh I forgot about that! You’re right. Biden gets a point. I also noticed, Ted Cruz was ALMOST the Dark Horse, came 2nd in NH but was just shy of the 4th place needed in Iowa for that distinguishment. Biden spends his point on Black voters in SC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodja 51 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Bernie spends one point on Hispanics/Asians and one on Blacks. Rand subtracts one point from Old Guard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I just realized that both @lok1999 and @CalebsParadox are out of the game, so we can start the next phase, which I will do sometime after I wake up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Rodja said: Bernie spends one point on Hispanics/Asians and one on Blacks. Rand subtracts one point from Old Guard As a reminder: You have to specify where you spend your points, I assume you're spending them on Hispanic/Asians in NV and Blacks in SC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Reagan04 said: As a reminder: You have to specify where you spend your points, I assume you're spending them on Hispanic/Asians in NV and Blacks in SC? I already calculated everything. I had him place them both in NV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Phase 3: Nevada and South Carolina Primaries! [Note: Going to condense the information since two primaries will make the post too massive. Super Tuesday, when we get to it, will be very condensed, giving only the state-by-state results, rather than the demographic breakdown.]  Nevada Democratic Primary  1. Loyalists/Liberals 30% 2. Hispanic/Asians 20% 3. Millennials 20% 4. Left/Progressive 10% 5. Blacks 10% 6. Misc 10%           1    2  3   4  5   6 Biden    10%  0  2.5  0  2.5  n/a = 15% 7 delegates O'Rourke 20% 10 15  0   0   2.5  = 47.5% 19 delegates ***Winner*** Sanders  0%  0  2.5 5% 2.5  5   = 15% 7 delegates Gillibrand 0%  10  0  0   5   0   = 15%  7 delegates Gabbard  0%  0  0  5%  0   2.5  = 7.5% 0 delegates  O'Rourke wins big, gaining +2 points for 4 states on Super Tuesday for defeating the Frontrunner and winning. Biden gets -1 on four Super Tuesday states for losing as the Frontrunner. Gabbard loses -1 on every demographic for Super Tuesday. All these numbers may change based off SC primary.  South Carolina Democratic Primary  1. Blacks 30% 2. Loyalists/Liberals 20% 3. Millennials 20% 4. Left/Progressive 10% 5. Hispanic/Asians 10% 6. Misc 10%            1    2   3  4   5  6 Biden     20% 10  5  2.5  0  0 = 37.5% 23 delegates ***Winner*** O'Rourke  0   10  5  0   5  5 = 25% 16 delegates Sanders   0    0  10  2.5  0 0 = 12.5 10 delegates Gillibrand  10% 0   0  2.5  5 0 =  17.5 11 delegates Gabbard   0    0  0  2.5  0 5 =  3  0 delegates  Biden wins so he cancels out his point deficit from NV. Gabbard now loses -2 on every demographic for Super Tuesday and is encouraged to drop out. After the four pre-Super Tuesday primaries, O'Rourke now has more total delegates than the Frontrunner, so he is now the frontrunner. O'Rourke gets another +1 on four Super Tuesday states (3 total), and Biden loses a point on all Super Tuesday states for losing frontrunner status, despite a win in SC.  Nevada Republican Primary  1. Libertarian 30% 2. MAGA 20% 3. Moderates 20% 4. Old Guard/Neocons 10% 5. Christians 10% 6. Misc 10%          1   2   3  4  5 6 Trump   5%  15  5  0 5  5 = 35% 10 delegates Kasich   5%  0  15  5 0  0 = 25%  9 delegates Cruz    10%  0  0  5  5  5 = 25%  9 delegates Paul     10%  5  0  0  0 0 = 15%  2 delegates Trump gains 1 point in Super Tuesday states. Paul loses -1 on Super Tuesday states, but avoids losing -1 on every demographic for gaining delegates. SC primary may modify these numbers.  South Carolina Republican Primary (WINNER TAKES ALL)  1. Old Guard/Neocons 30% 2. MAGA 20% 3. Christian 20% 4. Libertarian 10% 5. Moderates 10% 6. Misc. 10%           1    2  3  4   5   6 Trump    0%  10  5  2.5  5  0 = 22.5% Kasich   20%  0  5   0   5  5 = 35%  All 50 delegates! Cruz     10%  0  10  2.5  0  5  = 27.5% Paul      0%  10  0  5   0   0 = 15%  Kasich wins the winner-takes-all state. He is now the frontrunner. He gains 2 points to use on four Super Tuesday states. Trump loses 1 point in every Super Tuesday state for losing frontrunner status, but he gets to keep his 1 point to use in four states. Cruz gets 1 pt to use in four states for defeating a frontrunner. Paul comes in last in both primaries, so he loses -1 on every demographic on Super Tuesday and is encouraged to drop out.  Up Next: Pre-Super Tuesday Debates! Note: It will take me awhile to set up the Super Tuesday charts. I don't know if I'll have this done today or in a few days. The debate will be easy, but also expect the calculation of Super Tuesday to take a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePotatoWalrus 471 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Trump attacks Kasich on MAGA Gabbard drops out and endorses Biden Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 O'Rourke attacks Sanders on Left Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hestia11 572 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Gillibrand attacks O’Rourke on Black voters  kasich attacks trump on Moderates   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just need @Rodja and @Reagan04 to make their debate actions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 @vcczar I sent you an email Biden attacks O'Rourke with Liberals (Loyalists)  Cruz attacks Trump with Christian Conservatives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 DELEGATE COUNT SO Far Kasich 76 (50 from SC's winner takes all)Trump 27Cruz 16Paul 14O'Rourke 64Biden 50Sanders 42Gillibrand 23 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019  @vcczar The Nevada Democratic Caucuses were calculated incorrectly. You made Millennials a 30% group and erroneously gave yourself 57.5% when you only got 47.5%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodja 51 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Bernie attacks O'Rourke on Millennials Rand attacks Kasich on Libertarians Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Reagan04 said:  @vcczar The Nevada Democratic Caucuses were calculated incorrectly. You made Millennials a 30% group and erroneously gave yourself 57.5% when you only got 47.5%. Strange. Not sure why I did that. I’ll fix it when I can. I may put you in charge of doing the primary results because I’m pretty much rushing everything I’m doing because of all my other work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Ok, numbers adjusted post-mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 658 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 12 hours ago, vcczar said: Strange. Not sure why I did that. I’ll fix it when I can. I may put you in charge of doing the primary results because I’m pretty much rushing everything I’m doing because of all my other work. I would happily be of assistance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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