Reagan04 661 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 The Second Presidential Debate Biden attacks Cruz on Moderates, MAGA, and Neocons Cruz attacks Biden on Liberals, Millennials, and Hispanics Biden 2/0/-1/1/0/-3=-1 (Moderate attack mildly somewhat effective, MAGA attack deflected, Neocon attack ineffective) Cruz -2/0/1/-1/0/3=1 (Liberal attack ineffective, Millennial attack deflected, Hispanic attack successful) Cruz wins The Vice Presidential Debate O'Rourke attacks Rubio on Christians, MAGA, and Neocons Rubio attacks O'Rourke on Liberals, Millennials, and Hispanics O'Rourke 1/-4/1/1/0/-1=-2 (Christian attack somewhat effective, MAGA attack majorly backfires, Neocon attack somewhat effective) Rubio -1/4/-1/-1/0/1=-2 (Liberal attack somewhat ineffective, Millennial attack deflected, Hispanic attack somewhat effective) Rubio wins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 661 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Late October: GOP Cruz: Campaigns in Wisconsin for Libertarian support (4+1+3=8/8) Rally succeeds, WI Libertarian support increased to 5 Flake: Campaigns in NE-2 for Neocon support (5+4=9/10) Rally fails Rubio: Campaign in Pennsylvania for Moderate support (3+1+5=9/9) Rally Succeeds, PA Moderate support increased to 4 Romney: Campaign in North Carolina for Moderate support (5+6=11/10) Rally succeeds, NC Moderate support increased to 5 Kasich: Campaign in New Hampshire for Moderate support (5+6=11/10) Rally succeeds, NH Moderate support increased to 4 Paul: Campaign in Colorado for Libertarian support (5+6=11/10) Rally succeeds, CO Libertarian support increased to 5 Late October: Democrats Biden: Campaigns in Florida for Liberal support (5-1+3=7/8) Nothing happens Klobuchar: Campaign in Minnesota for Liberal support (5+1+2=8/10) Nothing happens O'Rourke: Campaign for Liberals in Pennsylvania (4-1+2=5/9) PA Liberal support decreased to 2 Gabbard: Campaign for Progressives in Wisconsin (4+1=5/10) Rally fails Gillibrand: Campaign for Progressives in Pennsylvania (4+5=9/10) Rally fails Castro: Campaign for Hispanics in Texas (5+1+4=10/10) Rally succeeds, TX Hispanic support increased to 4 Third Presidential Debate Cruz attacks Biden on Blacks, Progressives, and Hispanics Biden attacks Cruz on Christians, MAGA, and Moderates Cruz 0/2/0/-1/-2/1=0 (Black attack deflected, Progressive attack mildly successful, Hispanic attack deflected) Biden 0/-2/0/1/2/-1=0 (Christian attack somewhat effective, MAGA attack mildly successful, Moderate attack somewhat ineffective) Final debate inconclusive, there is a tie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 661 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 November: GOP Cruz: Campaigns in Nevada for Libertarian support (4+4=8/8) Rally succeeds, NV Libertarian support increased to 4 Flake: Campaigns in NE-2 for Neocon support (5+3=8/10) Rally fails Rubio: Campaign in Pennsylvania for Moderate support (3+5=8/9) Rally fails Romney: Campaign in Pennsylvania for Moderate support (5+3=8/10) Rally fails Kasich: Campaign in New Hampshire for Moderate support (5+2=7/10) Rally fails Paul: Campaign in Nevada for Libertarian support (5+2=7/10) Rally fails November: Democrats Biden: Campaigns in Florida for Liberal support (5+3=8/8) Rally succeeds, FL Liberal support increased to 4 Klobuchar: Campaign in Minnesota for Liberal support (5+1+5=11/10) Rally succeeds, MN Liberal support increased to 4 O'Rourke: Campaign for Liberals in Texas (4+1+4=9/9) TX Liberal support increased to 4 Gabbard: Campaign for Progressives in Wisconsin (4+4=8/10) Rally fails Gillibrand: Campaign for Progressives in Pennsylvania (4+5=9/10) Rally fails Castro: Campaign for Hispanics in Texas (5+1+4=10/10) Rally succeeds, TX Hispanic support increased to 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 661 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Election Night!! Nevada Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 6 Electoral Votes Cruz 9 2 11 52.38% Biden 6 4 10 47.62% Colorado Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 9 Electoral Votes Cruz 10 1 11 65.71% Biden 5 1 6 34.29% Virginia Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 13 Electoral Votes Cruz 10 6 16 53.33% Biden 10 4 14 46.67% Maine Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 2 Electoral Votes Cruz 5 5 10 52.63% Biden 5 4 9 47.37% Georgia Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 16 Electoral Cruz 13 2 15 51.73% Biden 8 6 14 48.27% Ohio Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 18 Electoral Votes Cruz 15 6 21 75.00% Biden 6 1 7 25.00% ME-2 Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 1 Electoral Vote Cruz 11 3 14 82.35% Biden 2 1 3 17.65% North Carolina Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 15 Electoral Votes Cruz 15 4 19 59.37% Biden 8 5 13 40.63% Michigan Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 16 Electoral Votes Cruz 10 2 12 60.00% Biden 4 4 8 40.00% Florida Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 29 Electoral Votes Cruz 10 5 15 51.72% Biden 9 5 14 48.28% Minnesota Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 10 Electoral Votes Cruz 9 6 15 57.69% Biden 6 5 11 42.31% New Hampshire Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 4 Electoral Votes Biden 6 6 12 54.54% Cruz 8 2 10 45.46% Arizona Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 11 Electoral Votes Cruz 13 2 15 66.67% Biden 5 4 9 33.33% Texas Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 38 Electoral Votes Cruz 15 1 16 53.33% Biden 8 6 14 46.67% Iowa Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 6 Electoral Votes Cruz 15 6 21 80.77% Biden 4 1 5 19.23% NE-2 Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 1 Electoral Vote Cruz 14 1 15 65.22% Biden 4 4 8 34.78% Pennsylvania Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 20 Electoral Votes Cruz 9 5 14 66.67% Biden 4 3 7 33.33% Wisconsin Campaign Points Dice Roll Total 10 Electoral Votes Cruz 10 3 13 65.00% Biden 5 2 7 35.00% Sen. TED CRUZ (R-TX) ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 346-192 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Wow. Why do you think this landslide occurred? Did Biden just not strategize well? I’m hoping it isn’t mechanical flaw in the game. Cruz has a massive advantage even before the die rolls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodja 51 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Paul campaigns as Cruz wanted Bernie announces he will join Bidens campaign after the debates! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodja 51 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Havent seen this page.Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan04 661 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, vcczar said: Wow. Why do you think this landslide occurred? Did Biden just not strategize well? I’m hoping it isn’t mechanical flaw in the game. Cruz has a massive advantage even before the die rolls. The Mechanical thing that caused the landslide was probably the debates. Winning the two debates and having the third one tie gave Cruz OP momentum and I would consider nerfing the effects of debates. Also, Cruz had a stronger starting ticket (See: Biden's anemic performance among Progressives that was exacerbated by not having strong Progressive surrogates). Ultimately though, the 2nd and VP Debates killed Biden. Biden really carried the day among Blacks and Liberals, but after the two debates, his 5s among Libera;s dropped down to 3s and that was goodnight for a landslide. The support was never there among Progressives and the Debates made Hispanic and Millennial turnout collapse. Again, biggest take away is that a nationwide drop of 1 point in 3 groups across a span of 4 debates can be devastating and really the rolls of only a few dice (In the 2nd and VP debates) are what determined that this would be a landslide. Cruz also had better surrogates for his problem spots and better base support among groups that particularly mattered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hestia11 597 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Let me know whenever you want to do another one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Actinguy 862 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Yep, my personal playthrough was MUCH closer, Kamala/Beto won every left-leaning state plus right-leaning Arizona, and turned Texas into a coin flip (that was won by Republicans.) But Trump/Pence ran the table on the swing states, ultimately winning the election. It was much more believable than this outcome, where Cruz managed to win all but one left-leaning state, but I too noticed that debates can absolutely destroy you. If I recall correctly, Kamala lost the first debate and Beto lost the VP, but then she made a comeback in the final two debates so things evened out a bit to the point where anyone could have truly won. Losing three of the four debates might truly destroy any possibility of winning. (Side note: I played without surrogates, as I felt they would just slow me down as I was playing every character). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Actinguy said: Yep, my personal playthrough was MUCH closer, Kamala/Beto won every left-leaning state plus right-leaning Arizona, and turned Texas into a coin flip (that was won by Republicans.) But Trump/Pence ran the table on the swing states, ultimately winning the election. It was much more believable than this outcome, where Cruz managed to win all but one left-leaning state, but I too noticed that debates can absolutely destroy you. If I recall correctly, Kamala lost the first debate and Beto lost the VP, but then she made a comeback in the final two debates so things evened out a bit to the point where anyone could have truly won. Losing three of the four debates might truly destroy any possibility of winning. (Side note: I played without surrogates, as I felt they would just slow me down as I was playing every character). And I’ll add @Reagan04 I’ll nerf the general election debates. The war chest meter should reign in the number of endorser actions each phase of the general election. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,229 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 To everyone interested, I'm going to need up to a week to get the rules updated and improved for the 2nd playthrough. When it's ready, I'll start a new thread and make an announcement to see who wants to play in the new game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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