vcczar 1,224 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 Update: I've put the % for all the seats in Northern Ireland and Scotland. I'm surprised how many seats are unopposed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 444 Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, vcczar said: Update: I've put the % for all the seats in Northern Ireland and Scotland. I'm surprised how many seats are unopposed. I think a lot of them in the early U.S. House of Representatives elections were too, to be honest. I think I recall that when I looked into my plans for 18th and early 19th Century CI elections I had announced interest in a while back. And that was even before the "Era of Good Feelings" I noticed this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 4 hours ago, vcczar said: Thanks. Basically, the water doesn't look like a grid. uk_victorian_update.bmp uk_victorian_update.bmp All regions work in this map Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Patine said: I think a lot of them in the early U.S. House of Representatives elections were too, to be honest. I think I recall that when I looked into my plans for 18th and early 19th Century CI elections I had announced interest in a while back. And that was even before the "Era of Good Feelings" I noticed this. I'm using the historical results, but I'm giving the Liberals a slight boost, since the election defeat was unexpected. Apparently, Gladstone dissolved Parliament expecting to sneak in a win and crush the Conservative momentum that was building. The strategy backfired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: uk_victorian_update.bmp All regions work in this map Thanks! I'll let you know if I get any issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 Update: Northern Ireland, Scotland, and the Northern part of England (north of Yorkshire) % are done. The percentages part will probably take me a few days. I'll next post an update when I complete these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, vcczar said: Update: Northern Ireland, Scotland, and the Northern part of England (north of Yorkshire) % are done. The percentages part will probably take me a few days. I'll next post an update when I complete these. Does the Map work? Also, what other resources do you need for this and the papal project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: Does the Map work? Also, what other resources do you need for this and the papal project. I haven't checked the map yet. I don't think I need anything unless you want to create some photos for the surrogates? Large 75x87 .bmp and Small 32x32 .bmp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lowe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Leveson-Gower,_2nd_Earl_Granville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wodehouse,_1st_Earl_of_Kimberley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Cardwell,_1st_Viscount_Cardwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Goschen,_1st_Viscount_Goschen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Cavendish,_8th_Duke_of_Devonshire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Gladstone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris,_3rd_Earl_of_Malmesbury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._A._Cross,_1st_Viscount_Cross https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Stanley,_15th_Earl_of_Derby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gascoyne-Cecil,_3rd_Marquess_of_Salisbury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathorne_Gathorne-Hardy,_1st_Earl_of_Cranbrook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stafford_Northcote,_1st_Earl_of_Iddesleigh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hicks_Beach,_1st_Earl_St_Aldwyn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stewart_Parnell I'll probably add some more before I release the finished project, but I could make those myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 @Patine I don't know if you have time to do this, but one thing that would be helpful is if you can help me find 10 platform issues for the 1874 election. You could also try to establish some stances if you wish. I'm still bogged down in making the % for each seat, and I'm also now splitting seats from towns that have more than one seat for that town. If you don't have time to do this, I'll get to it eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 444 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, vcczar said: @Patine I don't know if you have time to do this, but one thing that would be helpful is if you can help me find 10 platform issues for the 1874 election. You could also try to establish some stances if you wish. I'm still bogged down in making the % for each seat, and I'm also now splitting seats from towns that have more than one seat for that town. If you don't have time to do this, I'll get to it eventually. Electoral Reform Tariffs German Empire Egypt-Sudan/Ottoman Empire China Labour Laws Poor Laws Boer States Railroads and Canals Urbanization (including Infrastructure and Crime) Taxation Reform Irish Home Rule I didn't count the actual number there, but there's a good selection. A couple of others could be justified as we well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 22 hours ago, Patine said: Electoral Reform Tariffs German Empire Egypt-Sudan/Ottoman Empire China Labour Laws Poor Laws Boer States Railroads and Canals Urbanization (including Infrastructure and Crime) Taxation Reform Irish Home Rule I didn't count the actual number there, but there's a good selection. A couple of others could be justified as we well. Thanks, I'll use these, unless I can't find stances. Can you find logos for the Conservative, Liberal, and Home Rule parties? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 444 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, vcczar said: Thanks, I'll use these, unless I can't find stances. Can you find logos for the Conservative, Liberal, and Home Rule parties? They don't seem to have logos before the post-WW2 period. I'll see if I can dig can dig up campaign posters or political cartoons, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Patine said: They don't seem to have logos before the post-WW2 period. I'll see if I can dig can dig up campaign posters or political cartoons, though. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 444 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, vcczar said: Thanks! BTW, are you including the Chartists? I know they didn't get a single seat, but they were the embryonic party of a non-Marxist political labour movement in the UK have a bit of symbolic value (like Woodhull does in the 1872 U.S. Presidential Election). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Patine said: BTW, are you including the Chartists? I know they didn't get a single seat, but they were the embryonic party of a non-Marxist political labour movement in the UK have a bit of symbolic value (like Woodhull does in the 1872 U.S. Presidential Election). They aren't around in 1874, but I'll used them in earlier scenarios. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBDemSoc 7 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just wanted to mention that I have a version of the Rollings & Thrasher book mentioned in many of the early UK General Election Wikipedia pages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, MBDemSoc said: Just wanted to mention that I have a version of the Rollings & Thrasher book mentioned in many of the early UK General Election Wikipedia pages. Please let me know if it says anything important (and not listed on Wikipedia) about the 1874 election Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBDemSoc 7 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, vcczar said: Please let me know if it says anything important (and not listed on Wikipedia) about the 1874 election It does not have anything of use unfortunately that is not on Wikipedia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, MBDemSoc said: It does not have anything of use unfortunately that is not on Wikipedia. Oh okay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Update: I've finished all the % except those in Ireland (minus Northern Ireland). Hopefully, this means I'll be finished with all % by tomorrow. I still haven't heard back from @NYrepublican on whether or not he can make those images, since I'll probably work on the surrogates on Monday. If you don't have the time, I'll do it, or I'll move on to some other area until you do. This election seems like it will be an uphill battle for the Liberals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Update: Finally finished all the %. Will wait to hear back from @NYrepublican Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 I should state that the first simulation with all the % ran well. Liberals won the PV, but the Conservatives won the election, as was the case in real life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 444 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, vcczar said: I should state that the first simulation with all the % ran well. Liberals won the PV, but the Conservatives won the election, as was the case in real life. I'll see if I can get some campaign posters found in the next few days for party logos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, vcczar said: Update: Finally finished all the %. Will wait to hear back from @NYrepublican Here it is uk 1874.zip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,224 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Patine said: I'll see if I can get some campaign posters found in the next few days for party logos. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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