Who is a Better World Leader Poll?

[Patine 514]

5 minutes ago, Wiw said:

The Guardian did it before me. I just went along with it.

At least Thatcher, while many (read most) of her policies I find quite objectionable, had a head on her shoulders and was actually a far better LEADER (in terms of leadership qualities, barring platform or ideology) than Macron - or May, Merkel, Trudeau, and CERTAINLY Trump, today.

[Wiw 92]

I hate to say it, but true!

[jvikings1 40]

2 hours ago, Wiw said:

The Guardian did it before me. I just went along with it. I admit it does seem a little exaggerated in hindsight.

I hadn't seen that.  But, their respective policies when it comes to Europe is enough to make that comparison silly.

[RFK/JFKfan 11]

On 7/12/2018 at 9:37 PM, Patine said:

At least Thatcher, while many (read most) of her policies I find quite objectionable, had a head on her shoulders and was actually a far better LEADER (in terms of leadership qualities, barring platform or ideology) than Macron - or May, Merkel, Trudeau, and CERTAINLY Trump, today.

Thatcher's cabinets were also much more impressive than May's. May's have included Priti Patel, Amber Rudd, Boris Johnson, Gavin Williamson, Matthew Hancock, Penny Mordaunt, Chris Grayling and Liam Fox. Thatcher's included Geoffrey Howe, William Whitelaw, Lord Carrington, Douglas Hurd, James Prior, Michael Heseltine, Keith Joseph, Nigel Lawson, Norman Tebbit, and John Major. 

[Guest]

@RFK/JFKfan You'd prefer Kim Jong Un over Trump? Are you serious?

[Patine 514]

On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 6:51 PM, jvikings1 said:

Trudeau- He's a joke that praised Castro

To be fair, Fidel Castro was an admirable leader during, and for several years after the Cuban Revolution, if you look at it in context. He was launching his revolution again Cuban President Fulgencio Batista, an authoritarian, bloody-handed, human-rights abusing tyrant in his own right, and much more blatantly corrupt and elitist, who arrested, executed, and caused forced disappearances of thousands without due process for allegedly being Communists (it's widely believed the majority of them actually weren't - a phenomenon that also occurred in nations such as 1920 Hungary and Cold War Malaysia, South Vietnam, Cambodia, Taiwan, South Korea, and Chile, among others, that's known as a White Terror), he seized land from poor peasants with no compensation, forcing them off their land with military, paramilitary, and heavily-armed security forces, even burning their house, and selling the land dirt cheap to Mafia-owned interests in the U.S. to build resorts, casinos, and other tourist traps, and other blatant and egregious abuses of power. At the time of the revolution, Castro had the support of a majority of Cubans, as Batista had become despised by most, and the revolution, in the context of the word used as loyalty and service to one's nation and people as a whole, not necassarily the government in power de jure at the given time, could be considered a Cuban patriot at that time. Of course, like most leaders who come to power via revolution, especially those who remain in office for a long time, such a stature doesn't tend to last. Also, the harsh policies he was forced to enact due to scarcity because of the U.S. embargo further hurt his reputation as a leader.

[ThePotatoWalrus 471]

I'm still laughing that someone chose Kim Jong Un over Trump lmaoo

I know @Patine likes to try to keep me realistic but I guarantee I could take Kim Jong Un in a fight. I have a six-inch height advantage and a nine-inch reach advantage if his wingspan is equal to his height. He'd also tire easily so yeah.

[Patine 514]

1 hour ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I'm still laughing that someone chose Kim Jong Un over Trump lmaoo

I know @Patine likes to try to keep me realistic but I guarantee I could take Kim Jong Un in a fight. I have a six-inch height advantage and a nine-inch reach advantage if his wingspan is equal to his height. He'd also tire easily so yeah.

But Kim Jong-un has a phalanx of hair-trigger bodyguards - you don't.