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As you can imagine by this point, I'm super paranoid and sick of the thought of whatever might happen next in the world. I feel totally off my rocker and incapable of thinking straight. Knowing there's nothing I can do just suffocates me in the hopelessness. I really, honest to God, hope this isn't forever.

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4 hours ago, Wiw said:


As you can imagine by this point, I'm super paranoid and sick of the thought of whatever might happen next in the world. I feel totally off my rocker and incapable of thinking straight. Knowing there's nothing I can do just suffocates me in the hopelessness. I really, honest to God, hope this isn't forever.

Read J.R.R. Tolkien's tract on the "darkest times and how they pass" (I believe it's said verbatim by Gandalf to Merri and Pippen in the "Two Towers" - and it's in the movie version, too). It's based directly on something he told Christopher, his youngest son (now the executor of his father's estate - the highest authority on usage of Tolkien intellectual property at the moment) when WW2 broke out. It's quite well written.

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12 hours ago, Wiw said:

As you can imagine by this point, I'm super paranoid and sick of the thought of whatever might happen next in the world. I feel totally off my rocker and incapable of thinking straight. Knowing there's nothing I can do just suffocates me in the hopelessness. I really, honest to God, hope this isn't forever.

 

As someone who suffers from frequent anxiety and panic attacks, I can relate to this, but if I may ask what is causing you to feel this way?

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The world's a good place! If you're watching a lot of negative news, you might want to stop watching it (or Twitter, which is the worst). Get outside, focus on your community and those you know. I run a political game company and hardly ever watch the news!

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16 hours ago, Wiw said:


As you can imagine by this point, I'm super paranoid and sick of the thought of whatever might happen next in the world. I feel totally off my rocker and incapable of thinking straight. Knowing there's nothing I can do just suffocates me in the hopelessness. I really, honest to God, hope this isn't forever.

I can relate so much to this. I'd recomend to go outside, focus on your community and those you know and block the news websites (at least temporarily) to help you focus

this can be done by modifying c:\windows\system32\hosts

follow the format of "url 127.0.0.1"

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2 hours ago, admin_270 said:

@Wiw

The world's a good place! If you're watching a lot of negative news, you might want to stop watching it (or Twitter, which is the worst). Get outside, focus on your community and those you know. I run a political game company and hardly ever watch the news!

 

Spitting straight facts like usual. @Wiw , don't wanna get political here but the media will only show you the bad parts of the world. Most of the people in this world are good people with good intentions. If you turn off the news and get out there, you will agree. This forum is a great example of that. There are lots of open-minded and supportive individuals here who you could talk to. Good vibes my man, we're here for you.

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Aw you guys - I know we have our differences, but you know what, at least we're willing to help out in times of need.

15 hours ago, Patine said:

Read J.R.R. Tolkien's tract on the "darkest times and how they pass" (I believe it's said verbatim by Gandalf to Merri and Pippen in the "Two Towers" - and it's in the movie version, too). It's based directly on something he told Christopher, his youngest son (now the executor of his father's estate - the highest authority on usage of Tolkien intellectual property at the moment) when WW2 broke out. It's quite well written.

Which chapter's that?

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17 minutes ago, Wiw said:

Aw you guys - I know we have our differences, but you know what, at least we're willing to help out in times of need.

Which chapter's that?

I don't have the book on hand. It's very near the end of the book, though.

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Sam: It's like in the great stories Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end it's only a passing thing this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it'll shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you, that meant something even if you were too small to understand why. But I think Mr. Frodo, I do understand, I know now folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in the world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for.

 

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On 6/21/2018 at 7:37 AM, Patine said:

That may be it. I had thought it was said by Gandalf to Merri and Pippen, but that one does have the ring of what I'm thinking of.

Don't know if you did it on purpose but I see what you did there

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7 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

From the news, I too get the feeling that the world's going to ruin.

It's a distortion and skewing of perception by modern media, Internet, etc., to exaggerate, overexpose, sensationalize, and show a sharp political bias in every news articles, with every single instance journalists and others can remotely make meat out of in graphic, high-resolution, live-broadcast detail mulling over stories for a week after with every "expert" (and just random politicians and celebrities) weighing in. You'd have no idea we actually live in one of the most peaceful and safe periods of time in recorded world history. This "media barrage" was certainly not always the case. When I was growing up in the '80's, though it was known there "bush wars in the Third World and crime on the streets," in a very general sense, we almost NEVER heard about the wars in Angola, Mozambique, Iran-Iraq, Afghanistan, India-Pakistan, Myanmar, East Timor, Chad, Senegal, Liberia, Zaire, the Ivory Coast, Mali, Mauritania, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Colombia, Chile, Argentina, and others, and certainly not in any detail in the news, and we never heard about specific instances of violent crimes in the national news, unless it was a gratuitously horrid serial killer - almost all such crimes were reserved for local news. I also, some years ago, went to the Edmonton Archives and looked over some old city newspapers from the WW2 era - probably the most violent era in world history, and despite a huge, bloody war of massive proportions going on at the time of publishing, such detailed and exhaustive stories of such violence and strife I mentioned above are even LESS covered.

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On 8/3/2018 at 2:59 PM, NYrepublican said:

From the news, I too get the feeling that the world's going to ruin.

No, it definitely is. Fascism is taking over, it even got James Gunn fired for things he said long ago! At this point I think to continue searching for solutions to the world's problems are in vain. The madmen are pressing ahead with their insane dreams.

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3 hours ago, Wiw said:

No, it definitely is. Fascism is taking over, it even got James Gunn fired for things he said long ago! At this point I think to continue searching for solutions to the world's problems are in vain. The madmen are pressing ahead with their insane dreams.

You are definitely overreacting. Trump is not a fascist. The US government is built around civil liberties and checks and balances so any tyranny in the US is impossible. Honestly if you literally only listen to the news it is your own fault for having these feelings because the media gets better ratings when they show upsetting things. Remember that shit like gay marriage, gay adoption, being transgender wasn't legal less than a decade ago. We're still making progress and by saying stuff like this you're only pushing us back.

If you are referring to fascism in the rest of the world, remember that the leader of North Korea accepted diplomatic negotiations for the first time in their fascist history this year, and there have been no confirmed reports of rocket tests. Literally just today North and South Korean families have reunited since the Korean War, but I bet CNN didn't highlight that today.

The point is the world is getting more and more progressive each day and you are seriously overreacting to the littlest things for the simple fact that, "tHe PrESiDeNt sAiD mEaN tHInG aNd I dOnT aGReE wItH hIs vIEwS imPeAcH!!" that sounds pretty damn fascist to me if anything.

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12 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

[A]ny tyranny in the US is impossible.

Exactly what the unwashed masses thought in Germany in the '20's and oh wait Hitler showed up.

12 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

 [b ]eing transgender wasn't legal less than a decade ago.

What do you mean by "being legal"? That their new identity would be acknowledged?

12 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

If you are referring to fascism in the rest of the world, remember that the leader of North Korea aÔĽŅccepted diplomatic negotiations for the first time in their fascist history this year, and there have been no confirmed reports of rocket tests.¬†

Communist not fascist; they're different things. Also, what qualifies as "diplomatic negotiations"? Opening up diplomatic relations with the US or agreeing to a temporary halt on rocket tests in exchange for a unilateral concession?

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5 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

Exactly what the unwashed masses thought in Germany in the '20's and oh wait Hitler showed up.

 

If you're telling me that Germany wasn't already an authoritarian country after WW1 and before Hitler you are lying to yourself.

6 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

What do you mean by "being legal"? That their new identity would be acknowledged?

 

I'm referring to the public expression of being transgender like the bathroom issues and such. (Which was irrelevant as transgenders already used whichever bathrooms they wanted before

7 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

Communist not fascist; they're different things. 

 

A country can't be a Communist fascist state? As much as I despise the Communist agenda and viewpoints I wouldn't argue that North Korea is a 100% just Communist state lmao.

11 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

Also, what qualifies as "diplomatic negotiations"? Opening up diplomatic relations with the US or agreeing to a temporary halt on rocket tests in exchange for a unilateral concession?

 

I was referring to literally meeting the North Korean leader. But the other things sure.

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30 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

You are definitely overreacting. Trump is not a fascist. The US government is built around civil liberties and checks and balances so any tyranny in the US is impossible. Honestly if you literally only listen to the news it is your own fault for having these feelings because the media gets better ratings when they show upsetting things. Remember that shit like gay marriage, gay adoption, being transgender wasn't legal less than a decade ago. We're still making progress and by saying stuff like this you're only pushing us back.

If you are referring to fascism in the rest of the world, remember that the leader of North Korea accepted diplomatic negotiations for the first time in their fascist history this year, and there have been no confirmed reports of rocket tests. Literally just today North and South Korean families have reunited since the Korean War, but I bet CNN didn't highlight that today.

The point is the world is getting more and more progressive each day and you are seriously overreacting to the littlest things for the simple fact that, "tHe PrESiDeNt sAiD mEaN tHInG aNd I dOnT aGReE wItH hIs vIEwS imPeAcH!!" that sounds pretty damn fascist to me if anything.

I think Trump should be impeached for other reasons, but it would be a massive double standard if you impeached and convicted him but not holding the other criminals who held that office to account (like Bill Clinton and George W. Buh)

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1 minute ago, LegolasRedbard said:

I think Trump should be impeached for other reasons, but it would be a massive double standard if you impeached and convicted him but not holding the other criminals who held that office to account (like Bill Clinton and George W. Buh)

I didn't think Clinton deserved to be impeached, but I understand those who do, but wtf did Bush do lmao? I didn't like him or think he was that competent but I don't think he should have been impeached.

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3 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

If you're telling me that Germany wasn't already an authoritarian country after WW1 and before Hitler you are lying to yourself.

Where does this claim come from? @Patine could help here.

4 minutes ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

A country can't be a Communist fascist state? As much as I despise the Communist agenda and viewpoints I wouldn't argue that North Korea is a 100% just Communist state lmao.

Authoritarian and fascist aren't synonyms. Here's a comparison chart between communism and fascism

Comparison chart

Communism versus Fascism comparison chart
  Communism Fascism
Philosophy From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Free-access to the articles of consumption is made possible by advances in technology that allow for super-abundance. The state must gain glory through constant conquest and war. The past was glorious, and that the State can be renewed. The individual has no value outside of his or her role in promoting the glory of the State. Philosophies varied by country.
Key Elements Centralized government, planned economy, dictatorship of the "proletariat", common ownership of the tools of production, no private property. equality between genders and all people, international focus. Usually anti-democratic with a 1-party system. Actual idealism, centralized government, social Darwinism, planned economy, anti-democratic, meritocratic, extreme nationalism, militarism, racism (Nazism). Traditional and/or exaggerated gender roles. One party system.
Ideas All people are the same and therefore classes make no sense. The government should own all means of production and land and also everything else. People should work for the government and the collective output should be redistributed equally. Union between businesses and the State, with the state telling the business what to do, with nominally private ownership. Corporatism in Italy, National Socialism in Germany. Central planning of National economy. Redistribution of wealth (Nazi).
Political System A communist society is stateless, classless and is governed directly by the people. This however has never been practised. One charismatic leader has absolute authority. Often the symbol of the state. Advisers to Government are generally picked by merit rather than election. Cronyism common.
Key Proponents Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Peter Kropotkin, Rosa Luxemburg, Vladimir Lenin, Emma Goldman, Leon Trotsky, Joseph Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Mao Zedong, Josip Broz Tito, Enver Hoxha, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro. Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Francisco Franco, Jos√© Antonio Primo de Rivera, Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, Ante Pavelińá, Ikki Kita, Wang Jingwei, Pl√≠nio Salgado, Konstantin Rodzaevsky, Oswald Mosley, William Dudley Pelley, Aleksandr Dugin.
Private Property Abolished. The concept of property is negated and replaced with the concept of commons and ownership with "usership". Nominally permitted. Contingent upon service, obedience, or usefulness to the State.
Definition International theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, with actual ownership ascribed to the community or state. Rejection of free markets and extreme distrust of Capitalism in any form. An extremely nationalistic, authoritarian state usually led by one person at the head of one party. No democratic election of representatives. No free market. No individualism or individual glory. The State controls of the press and all other media.
Economic Coordination Economic planning coordinates all decisions regarding investment, production and resource allocation. Planning is done in terms of physical units instead of money. Businesses are nominally privately owned; the State dictates outputs and investments. Planning is based on projected labor output rather than money.
Social Structure All class distinctions are eliminated. A society in which everyone is both the owners of the means of production and their own employees. Strict class structure believed necessary to prevent chaos (Italian Fascist). All class distinctions are eliminated (German Nazi). Nazism believes in a ‚Äúsuperior‚ÄĚ race. Italian Fascism was not racist in doctrine originally.
Religion Abolished - all religious and metaphysics is rejected. Engels and Lenin agreed that religion was a drug or ‚Äúspiritual booze‚ÄĚ and must be combated. To them, atheism put into practice meant a ‚Äúforcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Fascism is a civic religion: citizens worship the state through nationalism. The state only supports religious organizations that are nationally/historically tied to that state; e.g., the Iron Guard in Romania supported the Romanian Orthodox church.
Ownership Structure The means of production are commonly-owned, meaning no entity or individual owns productive property. Importance is ascribed to "usership" over "ownership". The means of production are nominally privately owned but directed by the State. Private ownership of business is contingent upon submission to the direction and interests of the State.
Political Movements Marxist Communism, Leninism and Marxism‚ÄďLeninism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, Maoism, Dengism, Prachanda Path, Hoxhaism, Titoism, Eurocommunism, Luxemburgism, Council communism, Left-Communism. National¬†Socialism, Falangism, Nazism, Strasserism, neo-Nazism, neo-fascism, national-Bolshevism.
Free Choice Either the collective "vote" or the state's rulers make economic and political decisions for everyone else. In practice, rallies, force, propaganda etc. are used by the rulers to control the populace. The individual is considered meaningless; they must submit to the decisions of the leadership. Traditional gender roles are upheld and/or exaggerated.
Economic System The means of production are held in common, negating the concept of ownership in capital goods. Production is organized to provide for human needs directly without any use for money. Communism is predicated upon a condition of material abundance. Autarky (national self-sufficiency). Keynesian (mostly). Large public works, deficit spending. Anti trade union and syndicalism. Strongly against international financial markets and usury.
Way of Change Government in a Communist-state is the agent of change rather than any market or desire on the part of consumers. Change by government can be swift or slow, depending on change in ideology or even whim. Government in a fascist state is the agent of change rather than any market or desire on the part of consumers. Change by government can be swift or slow, depending on a change in labor output or even at the whim of the dictator.
Discrimination In theory, all members of the state are considered equal to one another. Belief in one superior race (Nazism). Belief in a superior nation (Fascism & Nazism). Gender (F & N). Mental or physical handicaps. Mental illness. Alcoholics. Homosexuals. Roma. Jews (Nazi). Ideological and political opposition, trade unions (F&N).
Examples Ideally, there is no leader; the people govern directly. This has never been actually practiced, and has just used a one-party system. Examples of Communist states are the erstwhile Soviet Union, Cuba and North Korea. Fascist governments are generally headed by one person: a dictator. This is not an aberration of doctrine, in fact it is an important component of it.
Means of control Theoretically there is no state control. Fascism employs direct force (secret police, government intimidation, concentration camps, and murder), propaganda (enabled by State-directed, heavily-censored media), rallies, etc.
Variations Left Anarchism, Council Communism, European Communism, Juche Communism, Marxism, National Communism, Pre-Marxist Communism, Primitive Communism, Religious Communism, International Communism. Nazism, Austrofascism, British Fascism, Christofascism, Clerical Fascism, Falangism, Francoism, Italian Fascism, National Socialism, Neo-fascism, Proto-fascism, Tropical fascism.
Earliest Remnants Theorized by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels in the mid-19th century as an alternative to capitalism and feudalism, communism was not tried out until after the revolution in Russia in the early 1910s. The Roman Empire, which could be argued was a fascist entity. The earliest fascist theories were based on examples left behind by the Roman Empire.
View of the world Communism is an international movement; Communists in one country see themselves in solidarity with Communists in other countries. Communists distrust Nationalistic nations and leaders. Communists strongly distrust "big business." Fascists are ultra-nationalists who identify strongly with other Nationalistic nations and leaders. Fascists distrust internationalism and rarely abide by international agreements. Fascists do not believe in the concept of international law.
Modern Examples Recent far-left dictatorships include the USSR (1922-1991) and its sphere throughout eastern Europe. Only five nations presently have Communist governments: China, North Korea, Cuba, Laos and Russia. Recent far-right dictatorships include the Republic of Chile under Augusto Pinochet (1973-1990) and the Republic of Argentina under Juan Perón (1946-1955) / (1973-1974). There are presently no openly fascist governments in existence.
History Major Communist parties include the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (1912-91), the Communist Party of China (1921-ON), the Workers' Party of Korea (1949-ON), and the Communist Party of Cuba (1965-ON). Term coined by Mussolini in the 1920s when he gained control of Italy. Other major fascist regimes include the Nazi Party in Germany (1933-45), the National Union in Portugal (1934-68), and Francoist Spain (1936-1975).
View of war Communists believe that war is good for the economy by spurring production, but should be avoided. War is good for the morale of the nation and therefore good for the State. Through the conquest of war, the State can attain glory. The Nation State is bolstered through subjugation of inferior nations. War has no negative effect on the economy.
Literature The Communist Manifesto, ‚ÄúDas Kapital‚ÄĚ, The State and Revolution, The Jungle, Reform or Revolution, Capital (Vol I: A Critical Analysis of Capitalist Production), Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, the Grapes of Wrath. The Doctrine of Fascism, Fascist Manifesto, "La Conquista del Estado", "Mein Kampf", My Autobiography, The Myth of the Twentieth Century, The Last Will of a Russian Fascist.
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1 minute ago, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I didn't think Clinton deserved to be impeached, but I understand those who do, but wtf did Bush do lmao? I didn't like him or think he was that competent but I don't think he should have been impeached.

Maybe not impeached, but him and members of his administration should certainly face some sort of punishment over Iraq and Guantanamo. Actually, I walk back my statement about Trump being impeached. If some stronger evidence than what the current investigation is presenting shows up, I would definitely support his impeachment. Sadly, even if it turns out he has betrayed his country, I don't think the Republicans would vote to get rid of him¬†ūüôĀ

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1 minute ago, NYrepublican said:

Where does this claim come from? @Patine could help here.

Authoritarian and fascist aren't synonyms. Here's a comparison chart between communism and fascism

 

I really wish you had your own viewpoints so you wouldn't need to post videos and graphs without sources all the time.

If you think that North Korea is the definition of a stateless, classless, left-wing nation then you are crazy.

I'm sure @Patine really could help here but he prob wouldn't want dragged into this lmao

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1 minute ago, LegolasRedbard said:

Maybe not impeached, but him and members of his administration should certainly face some sort of punishment over Iraq and Guantanamo. Actually, I walk back my statement about Trump being impeached. If some stronger evidence than what the current investigation is presenting shows up, I would definitely support his impeachment. Sadly, even if it turns out he has betrayed his country, I don't think the Republicans would vote to get rid of him¬†<span><span style=ūüôĀ">

I actually agree. I also thank you for looking at the impeachment of the current President fairly for the time being until actual evidence shows up (no matter how likely/unlikely it is to happen).

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Just now, ThePotatoWalrus said:

I really wish you had your own viewpoints so you wouldn't need to post videos and graphs without sources all the time.

If you think that North Korea is the definition of a stateless, classless, left-wing nation then you are crazy.

Here's the graph source https://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Fascism

North Korea is an authoritarian "communist"(officially) state.

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