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2 hours ago, Hestia11 said:

The President proposes that we add 15 ships to the military for now.

This is worth the price. Start this straight away.

President Ellis is glad that he has finally grown a pair.

Oops. lol

 

Libertarian Plan Attempt 2#

 

It starts in the House, which easily passes with Conservative support.

 

When it reaches the Senate, it has full Conservative support, and now it needs Liberal support. By a vote of 54-50, it reaches your desk. I assume you veto it, so it goes for a veto override.

 

It starts in the house again, but it only reaches on 62% of the 66% of votes needed to continue, therefore killing the bills.

 

Presidential Plan Attempt 2#

 

It starts in the House. However, only a fraction of socialists and conservatives join the already fractured Liberals, failing the bill.

 

You have one more congressional action before election is called.

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State of the Union for Election of 1948
 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, France, China, Great Britain, Mexico, Austria, Sweden, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 40,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: China is going crazy. Their borders extend from China/Korea all the way to Modern Day Persia. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Some of our military is in Pacific Bases, while others are static.

Economy: The economy takes another small dip after uncertain Congressional battles.

Trade: Trade continues to take a sharp dive after the fight over denationalization worries both the public and private shippers.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, and it has no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 45% taxes 40% tariff 10% overseas territories/canals and 5% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 25% infrastructure and 0% surplus growth. (SD: 30)

Social Harmony: The country is united, and it has stabilized its unity decline.

Immigration: Immigration levels slow the rapid exponential growth, however the huge influx of immigration has led to housing shortages and high unemployment.

Mood of the people: People are becoming scared of the global affairs.

Party Power: Liberals manage to earn a majority in the Senate, but the Conservatives have a tiny majority in the House. There is room for an insurgent ticket for both the idea of Libertarianism and Populism.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is average, ending midterms with a 59% approval rating and 28% disapproval rating from the past poll.

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Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

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5 hours ago, Kingthero said:
State of the Union for Election of 1948
 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, France, China, Great Britain, Mexico, Austria, Sweden, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 40,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: China is going crazy. Their borders extend from China/Korea all the way to Modern Day Persia. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Some of our military is in Pacific Bases, while others are static.

Economy: The economy takes another small dip after uncertain Congressional battles.

Trade: Trade continues to take a sharp dive after the fight over denationalization worries both the public and private shippers.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, and it has no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 45% taxes 40% tariff 10% overseas territories/canals and 5% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 25% infrastructure and 0% surplus growth. (SD: 30)

Social Harmony: The country is united, and it has stabilized its unity decline.

Immigration: Immigration levels slow the rapid exponential growth, however the huge influx of immigration has led to housing shortages and high unemployment.

Mood of the people: People are becoming scared of the global affairs.

Party Power: Liberals manage to earn a majority in the Senate, but the Conservatives have a tiny majority in the House. There is room for an insurgent ticket for both the idea of Libertarianism and Populism.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is average, ending midterms with a 59% approval rating and 28% disapproval rating from the past poll.

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Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

Name and office: Hudson Wallace, Agriculture Businessman (Essentially Henry A. Wallace). (Populism, Libertarianism and Socialism is here).

 Race and gender, if other than white male: White Male.

Party: Socialist Labor Party (Originally a member of the moderate wing of the Conservative Party but defected to the Progressive Wing of the Liberal Party, he later defected to the Socialist Labor Party).

Resident state: Iowa.

Platform (see State of the Union): 

National Strength: Aim to move up one or two ranks in the top 10 country rankings.

Military Strength: Maintain the military and navy at the troop and ship levels they are currently at if the budget allows for it. Maintain naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia and Japan if those territories consent to them being maintained, withdraw from them if consent is not given. 

Foreign Affairs: Enact a policy of strict neutrality only engage in warfare if we are attacked or for humanitarian reasons (Or in exceptional circumstances). The Socialist Labor Party pledges to support democracy, self-determination, free trade, and principles of non-aggression in American post-war foreign policy. Continue to support the League of Nations' development. Place harsh sanctions on China for all invading the territories they have done. Support nations that may be invaded next by China. Continue to give funding to rebels in Chinese occupied lands. Start putting out feelers to other nations for a possible alliance against Fascist China. The party supports the current President's stance on Russia and would continue along the same path.

Military: Have the military and navy perform training exercises to be prepared for any other possible attacks or potential humanitarian intervention. Pursue research into the possibility of the development of a nuclear bomb. Begin building up the military in case of a possible attack from China. 

Economy: Legalise, Tax and Regulate sex work (prostitution etc). Implement the "perfect" tax also known as the land value tax. Introduce a wall street transaction tax. Create the Federal Housing Administration this will standards for construction and underwriting and insures loans made by banks and other private lenders for home building. The goals of this organization are to improve housing standards and conditions, provide an adequate home financing system through insurance of mortgage loans, and to stabilize the mortgage market. Aim to construct 1 million or more new homes to rent or buy. 

Trade: Create free trade deals with nations if they agree to strict protections for workers and the natural resources of the nations involved. The shipping industry will remain nationalized.

Budget: A deficit is fine. Focus on how the government can make people's lives better.

Social Harmony: No comment.

Immigration: All immigrants are welcome as long as they have not committed serious crimes. 

Mood of the people: No Comment. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: No comment.   

Social Issues: Decriminalise homosexuality and allow homosexuals to get married like everyone else. Legalise abortion. Legalise birth control. Etc.

Electoral and governmental reform: Elections shall be publicly funded; the electoral college shall be abolished; The recall election (citizens may remove an elected official before the end of his term) shall be created; The referendum (citizens may decide on a law by popular vote) will be created; The initiative (citizens may propose a law by petition and enact it by popular vote) will be created; Judicial recall (when a court declares a law unconstitutional, the citizens may override that ruling by popular vote) will be created; the constitution shall be amended several times; etc.

Party Power: Campaign vigorously against both the Liberal and Conservative Parties in both the Presidential Race and Congressional Races.

 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate: Electoral and Governmental reform.

 

VP nominee: Lloyd Thomas (NY).

 

The focus of this platform is to create a government that is transparent, accountable and here to help and not hinder the citizens of the nation.

The party still advocates for the economic policies presented in previous party platforms.

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On ‎9‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 7:38 PM, Kingthero said:
State of the Union for Election of 1948
 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, France, China, Great Britain, Mexico, Austria, Sweden, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 40,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: China is going crazy. Their borders extend from China/Korea all the way to Modern Day Persia. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Some of our military is in Pacific Bases, while others are static.

Economy: The economy takes another small dip after uncertain Congressional battles.

Trade: Trade continues to take a sharp dive after the fight over denationalization worries both the public and private shippers.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, and it has no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 45% taxes 40% tariff 10% overseas territories/canals and 5% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 25% infrastructure and 0% surplus growth. (SD: 30)

Social Harmony: The country is united, and it has stabilized its unity decline.

Immigration: Immigration levels slow the rapid exponential growth, however the huge influx of immigration has led to housing shortages and high unemployment.

Mood of the people: People are becoming scared of the global affairs.

Party Power: Liberals manage to earn a majority in the Senate, but the Conservatives have a tiny majority in the House. There is room for an insurgent ticket for both the idea of Libertarianism and Populism.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is average, ending midterms with a 59% approval rating and 28% disapproval rating from the past poll.

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Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

 

Name and office: George Woodburrow, Fmr. Senator and Businessman

 Race and gender, if other than white male: White Male.

Party: Libertarian

Resident state: New York

VP Nominee: Harold Curtis

Platform (see State of the Union): 

National Strength: We will be #1. America is the true greatest nation in the world and we will prove it in these strength rankings. As our current president lacks the leadership and integrity we need in times with Russia and China being threats to American safety. This is a time of turmoil, and America being #1 would prove we are capable of holding strong in such times.

Military Strength:Defense purposes should be the main purpose, keep all bases active and on defense, as China is a main threat, and make a few more military bases in areas like Cuba and some of our allies territories. It is time we move on from the "military shows agressiveness" stage, and the Libertarian candidate this election will show that.

Foreign Affairs: Strictly repremand China and Russia, take no excuses and put on sanctions to both China and Russia. Support rebels anonymously, aswell as declare neutrality for a matter of time, to look like we are playing nice, while secretly strategizing with our allies to possibly end facist China, and try to form a secretive Anti-Facism movement for China and Russia, while also downplaying China's large agressiveness to expand nearly into Europe.

Military: Training constantly, propaganda to take in recruits and in the case China goes wild execute heavy propaganda, research many technological advances to our Military aswell.

Economy:  Attempt to maintain the current economic status, as we are doing fine and not in debt. As mentioned in Trade speeches, the weak stances the Liberal and Conservatives have taken on about denationalization has been sickening, and we cannot let this pass nor let this socialism rule our nation with sad, weak movements.

Trade: Create free trade and slap down this "denationalization" idea, because if denationalization bills pass, our trade will plummet, aswell as our economy. This is an uptight, left winged movement the Liberals tricked the Conservatives into believing is right wing, and the POTUS luckily delayed it far enough to reach into the election. 

Budget: Avoid a deficit immediately, lower spending by a slight amount and the rest stay as is.

Social Harmony: No comment.

Immigration: We will protect our people from men of other nations that appear suspicious, but all immigrants who have not committed a crime have opportunites to become citizens. 

Mood of the people: Assure people we are doing fine, This will all be handled fine and pass over after a while. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: We give some valid reasons of "gaffe's" by her administration while pointing out her weak stances on the Military and Immigration.

Party Power: Campaign vigorously against the Conservative, Liberal and Soc. Lab. Parties in both the Presidential Race and Congressional Races, while encouraging voters to vote for integrity, leadership, and non-corruption, which is the Woodburrow/Curtis campaign.

 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate: Libertarian Military Views

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Just now, NYConservative said:

Name and office: George Woodburrow, Fmr. Senator and Businessman

 Race and gender, if other than white male: White Male.

Party: Conservative

Resident state: New York

VP Nominee: Harold Curtis

Platform (see State of the Union): 

National Strength: We will be #1. America is the true greatest nation in the world and we will prove it in these strength rankings.

Military Strength:Defense purposes should be the main purpose, keep all bases active and on defense, as China is a main threat, and make a few more military bases in areas like Cuba and some of our allies territories.

Foreign Affairs: Strictly repremand China and Russia, take no excuses and put on sanctions to both China and Russia. Support rebels anonymously, aswell as declare neutrality for a matter of time, to look like we are playing nice, while secretly strategizing with our allies to possibly end facist China.

Military: Training constantly, propaganda to take in recruits and in the case China goes wild execute heavy propaganda, research many technological advances to our Military aswell.

Economy:  Attempt to maintain the current economic status, as we are doing fine and not in debt.

Trade: Create free trade and slap down this "denationalization" idea, because if denationalization bills pass, our trade will plummet, aswell as our economy.

Budget: Help the people, keep them happy.

Social Harmony: No comment.

Immigration: We will protect our people from men of other nations that appear suspicious, but all immigrants who have not committed a crime have opportunites to become citizens. 

Mood of the people: Assure people we are doing fine, This will all be handled fine and pass over after a while. 

Popularity of the Incumbent: No comment.  

Party Power: Campaign vigorously against both the Liberal and Soc. Lab. Parties in both the Presidential Race and Congressional Races.

 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate: Conservative Military Views

OOC: oh god i really screwed up when making this one.

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16 hours ago, Kingthero said:
State of the Union for Election of 1948
 

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National Strength: We rank 2nd in the list of the top 10 countries: Russia, United States, Germany, France, China, Great Britain, Mexico, Austria, Sweden, Spain.

Military Strength: Our professional army is 40,000 men and 75 ships, with a reserve army of 120,000 men solely for defense. We have naval bases in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, St. Pierre and Miquelon, American Polynesia, and Japan.

Foreign Affairs: China is going crazy. Their borders extend from China/Korea all the way to Modern Day Persia. For reference, Russian borders are pre-our timeline-WW1 Russian borders.

Military: Our military is semi-active. Some of our military is in Pacific Bases, while others are static.

Economy: The economy takes another small dip after uncertain Congressional battles.

Trade: Trade continues to take a sharp dive after the fight over denationalization worries both the public and private shippers.

Budget: Our budget is currently balanced, and it has no debt. Our budget consists of the income of 45% taxes 40% tariff 10% overseas territories/canals and 5% nationalized industries, and the expenditure of 60% military 15% gov. upkeep 25% infrastructure and 0% surplus growth. (SD: 30)

Social Harmony: The country is united, and it has stabilized its unity decline.

Immigration: Immigration levels slow the rapid exponential growth, however the huge influx of immigration has led to housing shortages and high unemployment.

Mood of the people: People are becoming scared of the global affairs.

Party Power: Liberals manage to earn a majority in the Senate, but the Conservatives have a tiny majority in the House. There is room for an insurgent ticket for both the idea of Libertarianism and Populism.

Popularity of the Incumbent: The president is average, ending midterms with a 59% approval rating and 28% disapproval rating from the past poll.

____________________________________________

Name and office:

Age:

Party:

Resident state: 

VP nominee: 

Key Issue to Defend in Theoretical Debate:

Platform (see State of the Union):

Fmr. Vice President Carly Trebuano

56 year-old White Woman

Conservative

Michigan

Sen. Dan Cruz (C-FL)

We will defend our ability to effectively govern and our defense of American Security, Liberty, and Values.

National Strength: This administration's ineptitude on the national stage has been born for all the world to see. We can no longer afford this weak leadership when faced with a mysterious Russian superpower. We will attack the Liberals inconsistency and weakness on the Russia question and we pledge to stand against them and to become the most powerful nation on the planet, we can not afford any less when faced with the possibility of a Russo-Chinese superwar.

Military: We cannot afford to lose our bases and our military superiority in the Atlantic and Pacific theaters. This President has run one show of a Defense Department ripe with incompetence and disobedience. It's time for competent and strong leadership, and the Conservatives have a record of this. From spearheading the war effort as Senate Leader under President Talbot to keeping us safe as Vice President under my mentor President Hillsbury, I have the Defense credentials we so desperately need in these trying times.

Foreign Affairs: We need to bolster our allies in Europe and Asia against a possible Russo-Chinese superwar. We don't want to be involved unless our great allies are threatened or one of these powers teeters on hegemony. American influence and interests are not to be sacrificed in the sake of political war or political peace. National Security is not a political game.

Economy: We MUST denationalize the shipping industry. The entire Conservative Party and much of the Liberal Party is united around this but yet again the President stonewalls freedom and progress. This is our day 1 Trade policy, denationalize and make trade deals like there is no tomorrow. Furthermore, we have to fight against the overbearing, job killing, and unconstitutional advances of Socialism. We stand for a free and Conservative economy. We are glad that our economists and economic theory have kept the market stable even as we have a Liberal in the White House. We do acknowledge the President for her ceding the Liberal Platform regarding regulation to the Conservative platform of the same.

Trade: As seen above, denationalization is one of the biggest initiatives we hope to embark as we march forward into the 50s, hoping to form a more powerful America. This is of the utmost importance and we even reach out to Libertarian Liberals to support some of our candidates in an order to keep the economy free and growing and to shrink the government.

Budget: This has grown to be a bipartisan issue, no one wants debt and we will keep it this way.

Social Issues: The socialist policies of corrupting our values and defiling Marriage is absolutely ridiculous, we stand for funding of education programs for our children and other types of PSAs in order to keep our nation safe from threats against these values. We rally the Moralist base with these issues and point to the Liberals and Socialists as parties of moral decay at odds with the supermajority of decent Americans.

Immigration: Perhaps we should begin to cut back into immigration restrictions in order to keep the economic growth for Americans. We'll be bringing this up as a lower priority issue in order to stabilize the economy.

Mood: Likewise, as we have said, we'll be making sure we only intervene if American influence is threatened.

Party: We campaign heavily on Defense, Denationalization, and Moralism to rally an American people ready for a change to strong leadership.

President: We mostly focus on her administration's Defense blunders and attack Socialist/Liberal policies, not politicians, in other areas.

 

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Senator Leroy D. Upton of North Carolina endorses Former Vice President Trebuano for the presidency.

We need a true fighter in the oval office again and I believe Carly is this fighter. I trust her and I urge all people who are conservative-minded and down-to-earth to vote for her. This country needs true leadership again and Carly will provide it no matter what problems might be ahead of us. In order to give us a working majority I also urge all the people who care about small government to vote for the Conservative Party in all races. Thank you and God bless you.

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6 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

Fmr. Vice President Carly Trebuano

56 year-old White Woman

Conservative

Michigan

Sen. Dan Cruz (C-FL)

We will defend our ability to effectively govern and our defense of American Security, Liberty, and Values.

National Strength: This administration's ineptitude on the national stage has been born for all the world to see. We can no longer afford this weak leadership when faced with a mysterious Russian superpower. We will attack the Liberals inconsistency and weakness on the Russia question and we pledge to stand against them and to become the most powerful nation on the planet, we can not afford any less when faced with the possibility of a Russo-Chinese superwar.

Military: We cannot afford to lose our bases and our military superiority in the Atlantic and Pacific theaters. This President has run one show of a Defense Department ripe with incompetence and disobedience. It's time for competent and strong leadership, and the Conservatives have a record of this. From spearheading the war effort as Senate Leader under President Talbot to keeping us safe as Vice President under my mentor President Hillsbury, I have the Defense credentials we so desperately need in these trying times.

Foreign Affairs: We need to bolster our allies in Europe and Asia against a possible Russo-Chinese superwar. We don't want to be involved unless our great allies are threatened or one of these powers teeters on hegemony. American influence and interests are not to be sacrificed in the sake of political war or political peace. National Security is not a political game.

Economy: We MUST denationalize the shipping industry. The entire Conservative Party and much of the Liberal Party is united around this but yet again the President stonewalls freedom and progress. This is our day 1 Trade policy, denationalize and make trade deals like there is no tomorrow. Furthermore, we have to fight against the overbearing, job killing, and unconstitutional advances of Socialism. We stand for a free and Conservative economy. We are glad that our economists and economic theory have kept the market stable even as we have a Liberal in the White House. We do acknowledge the President for her ceding the Liberal Platform regarding regulation to the Conservative platform of the same.

Trade: As seen above, denationalization is one of the biggest initiatives we hope to embark as we march forward into the 50s, hoping to form a more powerful America. This is of the utmost importance and we even reach out to Libertarian Liberals to support some of our candidates in an order to keep the economy free and growing and to shrink the government.

Budget: This has grown to be a bipartisan issue, no one wants debt and we will keep it this way.

Social Issues: The socialist policies of corrupting our values and defiling Marriage is absolutely ridiculous, we stand for funding of education programs for our children and other types of PSAs in order to keep our nation safe from threats against these values. We rally the Moralist base with these issues and point to the Liberals and Socialists as parties of moral decay at odds with the supermajority of decent Americans.

Immigration: Perhaps we should begin to cut back into immigration restrictions in order to keep the economic growth for Americans. We'll be bringing this up as a lower priority issue in order to stabilize the economy.

Mood: Likewise, as we have said, we'll be making sure we only intervene if American influence is threatened.

Party: We campaign heavily on Defense, Denationalization, and Moralism to rally an American people ready for a change to strong leadership.

President: We mostly focus on her administration's Defense blunders and attack Socialist/Liberal policies, not politicians, in other areas.

 

OOC: o noes, rip me ;-;

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I'm gonna delay the election until he makes up his mind; I warn you though starting a new party is a lot more effort than a few sentences. Note how the Socialist party started even with a lot of effort. Plus, being a Conservative going Libertarian with a strong Conservative candidate and a strong Liberal candidate to keep those libertarians in is going to be tough.

 

You'd have more luck with populism.

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The Conservatives welcome this new Libertarian party but are perplexed by their stance on foreign issues, while they support that stance they question this sudden lurching departure from the Libertarian ideology in America and more poignantly we needle the party on their odiously anti-denationalization position which they have cemented into their party. They still tell Free Market voters that the Conservatives are the best vote for them as opposed to the Liberals and Socialists, as well as the Libertarians who seem to now take their economic marching orders from the Big Government Left.

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30 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

The Conservatives welcome this new Libertarian party but are perplexed by their stance on foreign issues, while they support that stance they question this sudden lurching departure from the Libertarian ideology in America and more poignantly we needle the party on their odiously anti-denationalization position which they have cemented into their party. They still tell Free Market voters that the Conservatives are the best vote for them as opposed to the Liberals and Socialists, as well as the Libertarians who seem to now take their economic marching orders from the Big Government Left.

In counter, Mr. Woodburrow and a few other Libertarians needle the Conservative party's weak stances on denationalization, military and budget issues.

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I'm putting this roleplay on a short break for about 5 days. You all can still debate and attack eachother in the meantime, but I just won't be posting election results.

 

My schedule is getting chugged up with a huge amount of work (started around 34 now its up to 38 hours), college work (which luckily I have done a lot of), and other obligations.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, NYConservative said:

In counter, Mr. Woodburrow and a few other Libertarians needle the Conservative party's weak stances on denationalization, military and budget issues.

The Conservatives point at that this is a nonsense attack and shows serious lack of understanding of current events and political ideas. 

The Conservatives are much stronger on denationalization than the Libertarians, that is not debatable, they betray Small Government economics when they fight against it and for Socialism. This is a losing issue for their party so we are glad to bring it up because it only shows their base that the Conservative Party is a better home for them.

Furthermore, their military stances are not only disconnected with their base, but they lack any substance other than aggression. The Conservatives have a formulated Defense plan and Mrs. Trebuano has far more Defense credentials than Mr. Woodburrow, another losing issue for the Libertarians which are happy to bring up to show them that we are their better party/

And finally, regarding budget, what issue? We are running a surplus and everyone, bar the extremist Socialists, want to keep it that way. We are advocating for shrinking government, the Libertarians aren't when they make rash Defense statements and defend Socialist economics. It is as simple as that.

We begin to question if the Libertarian Party really exists to serve American Libertarians and their ideas or if it is just a rushed and quickly put together vehicle for Mr. Woodburrow's weakening political career. 

In any event, it has been made clear by the Conservatives and even the so-called Libertarians that it is the Conservative campaign that best suits their interest to get the reforms needed passed.

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2 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

The Conservatives point at that this is a nonsense attack and shows serious lack of understanding of current events and political ideas. 

The Conservatives are much stronger on denationalization than the Libertarians, that is not debatable, they betray Small Government economics when they fight against it and for Socialism. This is a losing issue for their party so we are glad to bring it up because it only shows their base that the Conservative Party is a better home for them.

Furthermore, their military stances are not only disconnected with their base, but they lack any substance other than aggression. The Conservatives have a formulated Defense plan and Mrs. Trebuano has far more Defense credentials than Mr. Woodburrow, another losing issue for the Libertarians which are happy to bring up to show them that we are their better party/

And finally, regarding budget, what issue? We are running a surplus and everyone, bar the extremist Socialists, want to keep it that way. We are advocating for shrinking government, the Libertarians aren't when they make rash Defense statements and defend Socialist economics. It is as simple as that.

We begin to question if the Libertarian Party really exists to serve American Libertarians and their ideas or if it is just a rushed and quickly put together vehicle for Mr. Woodburrow's weakening political career. 

In any event, it has been made clear by the Conservatives and even the so-called Libertarians that it is the Conservative campaign that best suits their interest to get the reforms needed passed.

The Libertarians point at that this "nonsense attack" has shown more sense than this entire statement,  while showing the desperation attempts the Conservatives are making at an attack.

The Libertarians show the facts that denationalization issues is the Libertarian specialty, and prove over and over again the libertarians have picked a stronger anti-denationalization standpoint than the Conservatives weak, minor agenda for denationalization.

Furthermore, the Libertarian military stances are not only connected to our moderate base, but have no substances of aggression and mainly defense, and having the smarts of looking foward in the case of a China attack on either Russia or the US, which are both very likely, while we needle the fact that Mrs. Trebuano and Fmr. President Hillsbury both were weak on the Military stance during their administration. 

In response to their lack of knowledge of the budget, a surplus won't mean much when, bar the socialist idea, we run out of money from that surplus from Mrs. Trebuano's egotistic idea of a budget, and a large government would help this issue tremendously, and not only put us in a larger surplus,but #1 on the national rankings.

We question if this hast, nonsensical rebuttal was made in an attempt to throw the Libertarians off, or the Conservatives on?

At any point during this campaign, it has been proven time and time again to the libertarian base that we are for their values, and not such extremist attempts to make sense.

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1 hour ago, Hestia11 said:

Liberal policymakers slam the "Libertarian" attack on their immigration and military platforms. Immigration has not been a sizeable problem, even the Conservatives agree with us on this plank. It seems Libertarians would be more willing to launch petty attacks on our President than actually help with an actual military idea, where the President has had to drag military leaders into the future. 

The Libertarian members, mainly Mr. Curtis slam the Liberals on the fact they allow nearly everyone, dangerous or not, into the US, and onto the Military, the Libertarians have put foward military visions of defense into perspective for this "great" split, narcissistic Liberal party to look at. So in reality, the Liberals have just given another petty attack on forming parties, filled with lies and narcissistic, irrational and nonsensical views.

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OOC: Can the "Party Power" text be a little more specific? Almost every candidate says they campaign vigorously against every other party and downballot, but that's already expected. I feel that that part of the platform should be used to explain a focus the party would take under your administration, or voters that the party would work to make bridges with. For example, the SOC-LAB party might attempt to court disgruntled working class whites, while it seems that the Liberal Party is becoming "the party of women". It would make that part of the platform more unique and have an actual impact. 

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