Rarename91 0 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I man really the way he have that speech was poorly and he a Kennedy. Democrat and republicans both should agree I mean look he was drooling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WVProgressive 56 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 What do you mean? i saw the speech and I thought it was good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rarename91 0 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, WVProgressive said: What do you mean? i saw the speech and I thought it was good. it was how it was given he try too hard to sound like obama he was dress poorly and was drooling. jfk would be spinning in his grave if he saw that speech. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 514 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Presidentinsertname said: it was how it was given he try too hard to sound like obama he was dress poorly and was drooling. jfk would be spinning in his grave if he saw that speech. This obsessive and repetitive harping on this non-issue is what they call "beating the dead horse," @Presidentinsertname Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WVProgressive 56 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, Presidentinsertname said: it was how it was given he try too hard to sound like obama he was dress poorly and was drooling. jfk would be spinning in his grave if he saw that speech. So no substantive criticism?Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MysteryKnight 21 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 He was articulate and spoke with passion, two things that Trump didn't do in his speech last night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rarename91 0 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 43 minutes ago, MysteryKnight said: He was articulate and spoke with passion, two things that Trump didn't do in his speech last night no he wasnt it a shit speech you just hate trump so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 514 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Presidentinsertname said: no he wasnt it a shit speech you just hate trump so much. Are you STILL going on about this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RP Overlord 0 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Presidentinsertname said: no he wasnt it a shit speech you just hate trump so much. My 1st grade cousin has a better grammatical skill than you, and you expect to be taken seriously?Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,227 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Here's my thoughts on the Joe Kennedy and the Donald Trump Speech speech: Prose of the Speech: A- for Kennedy and B+ for Trump Both speeches were well-written for the most part. Trump's speech was kind of odd in that you could easily tell that two primary hands were at work. One wrote in Trump's voice and diction, and the other did not. The hand that wrote in a voice other than Trump's was quite good. The Trump voice and diction does not lead to great prose.Ā Message of the speech: A- for Kennedy and D+ for Trump (This is where political preference comes in; therefore, bias) Trump's goal was unity, but he consistently contradicted himself in this. Kennedy's goal was to show a compassionate alternative to those maligned or ignored by Trump's rhetoric. Trump did not bring up Russia once, even though its a major issue. Kennedy had to bring it up, in passing.Ā Delivery of the speech: B- for Kennedy and D+ for Trump Kennedy was clear, passionate, energetic, but he was too stilted when he spoke, as if he were trying to impersonate an Obama impersonator. He looks like a Kennedy, and he is a Kennedy, but he doesn't have the delivery of one. Trump, while clear, seemed to lack passion, and he seemed very low energy. I think he was trying too hard to be presidential, and somehow equated that with being calm, which he seems to think is to show less passion and less energy, which isn't the case (see Obama as a speaker). Additionally, Trump was reading a speech rather than delivering one. He is getting better with a teleprompter, but it's still obvious he is reading (somewhat painfully) off the teleprompter. This is probably another reason that the speech comes off as insincere (like Ted Cruz), passionless (like Ben Carson), and low energy (like Jeb Bush). Feigning empathy for 90 minutes can be draining for a narcissist.Ā Ā Superficial, cosmetic aspect of the speech: F for Kennedy and A- for Trump Kennedy clearly applied a lot of lip balm or chapstick to ward off dry mouth and chapped lips in a cold Massachusetts winter. Very likely, it didn't show up that much outside of the lights, but once on stage it reflected everywhere. Drool probably isn't a good comparison, since that requires dripping and running and the shiny areas were stagnate, like glaze on donuts. Meanwhile, Trump was well dressed as he always is and otherwise doctored up as usual.Ā Overall: B+ for Kennedy and C- for Trump While Kennedy outscores Trump, I'd say Trump exceeded expectations more than Kennedy did. I expected Kennedy to get an A, and I expected Trump to get a D-. In the end, the cosmetic fiasco will have almost no negative impact on the future of Kennedy's political career, just as Rubio wasn't really undermined by his more active, purposeful fiasco (grabbing a glass of water). For Rubio, it allowed Trump one punch line, but it played almost no role in his losing the GOP primary. Democrats are also probably more likely to overlook Kennedy's cosmetics in any sort of primary. Additionally, Rubio ran for president soon after he gave his speech. Kennedy, unless he's a VP nominee, is probably going to be so far removed from this minor blunder. @PatineĀ @PresidentinsertnameĀ @MysteryKnightĀ @RP OverlordĀ @WVProgressive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pathetic Politican 0 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 On ā1ā/ā31ā/ā2018 at 11:45 AM, WVProgressive said: What do you mean? i saw the speech and I thought it was good. He just looked ... out of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rarename91 0 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Pathetic Politican said: He just looked ... out of it and that drud i mean he look like he eaten a tide pod (to be fair that may help him considering how dumb teens are these days)) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePotatoWalrus 471 Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Presidentinsertname said: and that drud i mean he look like he eaten a tide pod (to be fair that may help him considering how dumb teens are these days)) You make absolutely no sense lmao. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanChaos 0 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 11:29 PM, Patine said: Are you STILL going on about this? I now understand your frustration with him. In our previous exchange, I thought you were simply being rude, but I get why. This dude is a joke lmao. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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