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Opinion Poll of Trump, Sessions, Sanders


Opinion Poll for Trump, Sessions, Sanders  

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  1. 1. Since the 2016 Election, your opinion of Donald Trump has...

    • gotten much higher
    • improved a bit
    • is about the same as it was on election day
    • has decreased somewhat
    • has gotten much lower
  2. 2. Since his appointment as Attorney general, your opinion of Jeff Sessions has...

    • gotten much higher
    • improved a bit
    • is about the same as it was on his appointment
    • had decreased somewhat
    • has gotten much lower
  3. 3. Since election day, your opinion of Bernie Sanders has...

    • gotten much higher
    • improved a bit
    • is about the same as it was on his appointment
    • has decreased somewhat
    • has gotten much lower


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3 hours ago, Patine said:

But I did cringe when I heard him talk - as any SENSIBLE American when Trump talks

Ok I'm not going to stand for that.  You're welcome to your opinion but that type of talk that "anyone with any sense must cringe at Trump" is the exact reason he won.  I don't cringe nearly as much as I heard Barack Obama "uuuh and ummm" while he lied through his teeth about Obamacare, insult and talk down to Americans and go around the world being our apologist-in-chief. But even then I respect the opinions of those who like Obama, even if I strongly disagree with them.  For you to make those assumptions about Trump supporters is something I can't respect.

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10 hours ago, NYrepublican said:

Despite having seen actually racism you still think Sessions is racist.amazing.I find it truly baffling.

I have problems with Sessions including the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture and the complete lack of action on the Clinton investigation.  But I do believe he's an honest person, so this racism & Russian deal accusations are, until I hear any proof to the contrary, deplorable.

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1 minute ago, servo75 said:

I have problems with Sessions including the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture and the complete lack of action on the Clinton investigation.  But I do believe he's an honest person, so this racism & Russian deal accusations are, until I hear any proof to the contrary, deplorable.

agreed.

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2 minutes ago, servo75 said:

I have problems with Sessions including the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture and the complete lack of action on the Clinton investigation.  But I do believe he's an honest person, so this racism & Russian deal accusations are, until I hear any proof to the contrary, deplorable.

And I'll even take this one step further... This is I believe an example of the difference lately between Democrat/Liberals and Republican/Conservatives.  We can disagree with some aspects of a person's words or actions and disagree with others.  Too many left-wing politicians and pundits have an all-or-nothing view, where the person on the other side can't just have bad ideas, they have to be a bad person, a Nazi, or a racist.

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4 minutes ago, servo75 said:

Ok I'm not going to stand for that.  You're welcome to your opinion but that type of talk that "anyone with any sense must cringe at Trump" is the exact reason he won.  I don't cringe nearly as much as I heard Barack Obama "uuuh and ummm" while he lied through his teeth about Obamacare, insult and talk down to Americans and go around the world being our apologist-in-chief. But even then I respect the opinions of those who like Obama, even if I strongly disagree with them.  For you to make those assumptions about Trump supporters is something I can't respect.

Okay, here's a statement that has a great deal of historical precedent and backing behind it. Voting to put a vitriolic, fiery, and bombastic, but charismatic, populist in power on a campaign to restore some lost national quality and/or address injustices, real and/or perceived, to a nation (and this sort of election has happened quite often throughout world history - more often than you may know) has VERY RARELY turned out well in the end.

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Just now, Patine said:

Okay, here's a statement that has a great deal of historical precedent and backing behind it. Voting to put a vitriolic, fiery, and bombastic, but charismatic, populist in power on a campaign to restore some lost national quality and/or address injustices, real and/or perceived, to a nation (and this sort of election has happened quite often throughout world history - more often than you may know) has VERY RARELY turned out well in the end.

You have a point there.  Both Roosevelts for example fit that mold exactly. But for my part, I voted for Trump precisely because of those reasons, and for someone to be so dismissive that we must somehow be out of our minds because you don't agree with our decisions is to do the very same thing they accuse Donald Trump of doing - divisive rhetoric.

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6 minutes ago, servo75 said:

I have problems with Sessions including the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture and the complete lack of action on the Clinton investigation.  But I do believe he's an honest person, so this racism & Russian deal accusations are, until I hear any proof to the contrary, deplorable.

Okay, so, because you personally believe he's an honest person means such allegations, until evidence satisfies you personally, are automatically deplorable to even make. Sounds like you believe you're opinion is of a level of quality that exceeds most ordinary people, by the wording of that statement.

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Just now, Patine said:

Okay, so, because you personally believe he's an honest person means such allegations, until evidence satisfies you personally, are automatically deplorable to even make. Sounds like you believe you're opinion is of a level of quality that exceeds most ordinary people, by the wording of that statement.

Well,you shouldn't be able to accuse anyone of any crime without evidence or something really suspicious (Trump Jr. may have done it with his meeting as did Hillary by deleting the subpoenaed e-mails.)

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4 minutes ago, servo75 said:

 

And I'll even take this one step further... This is I believe an example of the difference lately between Democrat/Liberals and Republican/Conservatives.  We can disagree with some aspects of a person's words or actions and disagree with others.  Too many left-wing politicians and pundits have an all-or-nothing view, where the person on the other side can't just have bad ideas, they have to be a bad person, a Nazi, or a racist.

You know you've been guilty numerous times on these very forums of what you're accusing "Democrats/Liberals" of doing but "Republicans/Conservatives"  of not doing - group think and unified demographic thinking mentality statements by you again, as well, by the way - (though usually, in your case, it's "Communist," instead of "Nazi") but the hypocrisy of this statement, given so many of your own posts on these forums, bowls me over.

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4 minutes ago, Patine said:

You know you've been guilty numerous times on these very forums of what you're accusing "Democrats/Liberals" of doing but "Republicans/Conservatives"  of not doing - group think and unified demographic thinking mentality statements by you again, as well, by the way - (though usually, in your case, it's "Communist," instead of "Nazi") but the hypocrisy of this statement, given so many of your own posts on these forums, bowls me over.

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4 minutes ago, Patine said:

You know you've been guilty numerous times on these very forums of what you're accusing "Democrats/Liberals" of doing but "Republicans/Conservatives"  of not doing - group think and unified demographic thinking mentality statements by you again, as well, by the way - (though usually, in your case, it's "Communist," instead of "Nazi") but the hypocrisy of this statement, given so many of your own posts on these forums, bowls me over.

On a more serious note,one's saying that someone supports communistic policy and the other's accusing someone of supporting mass-murder.

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12 minutes ago, Patine said:

Okay, so, because you personally believe he's an honest person means such allegations, until evidence satisfies you personally, are automatically deplorable to even make. Sounds like you believe you're opinion is of a level of quality that exceeds most ordinary people, by the wording of that statement.

No, it's deplorable if you make those allegations with no proof, or based on debunked rumors.

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2 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

 

I think it's fairly obvious that when I say that I'm making generalizations, and not accusing or impugning a specific person.  Yes I've been very critical of certain people but never without reason.  I will not say "Obviously Obama was a bad President."  I'll say he was a bad President because of his taxing, spending, socialist policies, scandals, etc.  If I say "Democrats do this..." then I think it's obvious I'm not talking about all of them.

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1 minute ago, NYrepublican said:

On a more serious note,one's saying that someone supports communistic policy and the other's accusing someone of supporting mass-murder.

You do know that, contrary to popular belief, genocide was by far not the only plank on the Nazi and Fascist platforms, and many neo-Nazis and neo-Fascists campaign (openly, at least) on many of the others. I say this out of historical and political pedantry, not to defend the style of governance.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

You do know that, contrary to popular belief, genocide was by far not the only plank on the Nazi and Fascist platforms, and many neo-Nazis and neo-Fascists campaign (openly, at least) on many of the others. I say this out of historical and political pedantry, not to defend the style of governance.

True enough but that's what Nazi is understood as regardless of historical fact.

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Just now, servo75 said:

I think it's fairly obvious that when I say that I'm making generalizations, and not accusing or impugning a specific person.  Yes I've been very critical of certain people but never without reason.  I will not say "Obviously Obama was a bad President."  I'll say he was a bad President because of his taxing, spending, socialist policies, scandals, etc.  If I say "Democrats do this..." then I think it's obvious I'm not talking about all of them.

And I've always said exactly why I don't like Trump and think he's a bad President - you just tend to either dismiss my statements as though they have no validity (without giving evidence for their lack of validity), go on proud screeds all the more proving my reasons for disliking him and thinking he's a bad President, or how tell me how insulting I'm being (when I've said nothing more "insulting," if you will, and often less so, then you have often on these forums when berating people's opinions for any support of politicians or political ideals you vehemently oppose).

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4 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

True enough but that's what Nazi is understood as regardless of historical fact.

I don't cater to ignorance and lack of education. It's like, to me, the Continent of North America is the whole Western Hemisphere north of the southern shore of the Caribbean and the Colombian-Panamanian border, NOT just Canada and the United States, or, at times, Canada, the United States, and Mexico, as so many seem to believe and not even question.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

I don't cater to ignorance and lack of education. It's like, to me, the Continent of North America is the whole Western Hemisphere north of the southern shore of the Caribbean and the Colombian-Panamanian border, NOT just Canada and the United States, or, at times, Canada, the United States, and Mexico, as so many seem to believe and not even question.

Well we have a lot of geographical idiots.

http://listverse.com/2016/05/31/10-hilarious-high-profile-geography-fails/

My favorite has to be when Rick Perry made up the country of 'Solyndra'

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Just now, NYrepublican said:

Well we have a lot of geographical idiots.

http://listverse.com/2016/05/31/10-hilarious-high-profile-geography-fails/

My favorite has to be when Rick Perry made up the country of 'Solyndra'

That sounds like a Science Fiction World. Maybe Newt Gingrich can include it in his next book. Apparently he writes (or has written) science fiction with a sharp, archconservative authorial bias. :P

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@Patine You thought people would know that Hong Kong is not in Brazil.Well apparently not.

 

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and Ukraine didn't suddendly move to Pakistan

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Did Cuba secretly annex Florida or something

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Yes South Ossetia is totally in the state of Georgia.

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1 minute ago, NYrepublican said:

@Patine You thought people would know that Hong Kong is not in Brazil.Well apparently not.

 

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and Ukraine didn't suddendly move to Pakistan

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Did Cuba secretly annex Florida or something

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Yes South Ossetia is totally in the state of Georgia.

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To be fair on the last one, South Ossetia is a breakaway part of the Republic of Georgia, but that's a completely place right across the world with a completely different language and culture. It was also (or at least geographic and ethnic origin of today, and there was no independent nation of Georgia at that time - it was part of the Russian Empire) where Jozef Stalin was born and raised.

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