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1 hour ago, Presidentinsertname said:

Its only fair that i ask the democrats and greens and other left wingers ( in the case of you patine) what you like about trump. So anything you guys like about him?

Even flipped, I don't approve of a mandatory bias like this. I try not to be a hypocrite. Also, even in the confines of the Canadian political system, I don't consider a party loyalist to the main social democratic party (in this case, the NDP). I did vote for them between the 2000 to 2011 elections, straight, yes, but moreso because of their leadership - Jack Layton was one of the best federal party leaders in Canada in my lifetime, in my opinion - but when Mulcair took over the party leadership, but I couldn't bring myself to vote NDP in 2015 (at least Federally). Also, even though I agree with many (though not all, surprisingly) traditionally left-wing policies (at least New Left policies, not Vanguard Communist, Hard Socialist, Trotskyist, Syndico-Anarchist, Impossiblist, old-school Radicalism, and other left-wing ideologies very, very, different from, and often older than, the New Left, which is also known as Neo-Liberalism or Modern Progressivism), I don't necessarily view the world through the same black-and-white, us-and-them, pseudo-Manichaeist point of view of politics that is rising in many parts of the world, putting an ugly stain on a lot of political and social discourse and leading to many governments sabotaging and "screwing over' their people (essentially betraying their very purpose and job description) to maintain ideological purity on these issues, or the illusion thereof, because compromise and breaking of that purity, even if needed to get the necessary governance they were elected to do done, are such dirty words nowadays.

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5 hours ago, Patine said:

Even flipped, I don't approve of a mandatory bias like this. I try not to be a hypocrite. Also, even in the confines of the Canadian political system, I don't consider a party loyalist to the main social democratic party (in this case, the NDP). I did vote for them between the 2000 to 2011 elections, straight, yes, but moreso because of their leadership - Jack Layton was one of the best federal party leaders in Canada in my lifetime, in my opinion - but when Mulcair took over the party leadership, but I couldn't bring myself to vote NDP in 2015 (at least Federally). Also, even though I agree with many (though not all, surprisingly) traditionally left-wing policies (at least New Left policies, not Vanguard Communist, Hard Socialist, Trotskyist, Syndico-Anarchist, Impossiblist, old-school Radicalism, and other left-wing ideologies very, very, different from, and often older than, the New Left, which is also known as Neo-Liberalism or Modern Progressivism), I don't necessarily view the world through the same black-and-white, us-and-them, pseudo-Manichaeist point of view of politics that is rising in many parts of the world, putting an ugly stain on a lot of political and social discourse and leading to many governments sabotaging and "screwing over' their people (essentially betraying their very purpose and job description) to maintain ideological purity on these issues, or the illusion thereof, because compromise and breaking of that purity, even if needed to get the necessary governance they were elected to do done, are such dirty words nowadays.

i put "other left wingers ( in the case of you patine)" refering to you.

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It's hard to tell you anything I like about Trump, because it seems like the guy genuinely has no principles.

Have I heard stuff I like? Sure, when he talked about getting less involved in overseas military conflict, I liked that. But that hasn't been the policy. He talked about tax reform, closing loopholes, and at one point even raising taxes on the wealthy. Again, sounds great, but I do not believe he has any intention of pushing for any of it.

Edit: I guess officially killing the TPP is something I like that he has actually done.

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He's a good showman. In fact, that's really his proper calling. He is an AWFUL President, he's not nearly as a businessman as he pretends to be, he's only a "sugar daddy" sort of good lover, from all indications, he's not a good leader in a true sense, he obviously doesn't know how a military or international politics really work, and he has VERY skewed view of economics. So, all I've seen evidence of that he's really good at is being a showman. He should have stuck to reality television.

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