vcczar 1,271 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'll post the updates/improvements to the 1800 scenario here. The Historical Scenario Commission consists of @jvikings1 @CalebsParadox @Patine @Reagan04 @TheMiddlePolitical @SeanFKennedy @Conservative Elector 2 @Take Me to La Riva @vcczar @NYrepublican @MrPrez @msc123123, all of whom will help in improving historical presidential election at their leisure. We will go in chronological order. [Anyone wishing to join the HSC can do so by posting here, and can help by playing through the scenarios to find areas for improvement, providing advice for improvements, and for suggesting events, finding typos or other errors. Suggestions for historical newspapers (for interviews), events, surrogates, fixing inflationary index, etc. can also be helpful. ] Updates will be edited in the list below as they are made. ~~~~Updates to the scenario so far have been~~~~ Issue images set by NYRepublican Money coefficient set to 3 by Patine Endorser support adjusted by VCCzar Relations between candidates set by VCCzar Numerous events added, and some older ones edited by VCCzar Typos fixed by NYRepublican & Conservative Elector 2 Adams taken off the ballot in Southern Legislatures (states with no popular vote) that he had zero change of winning in 1800. This stops the game for handing him those EVs randomly since the population is set to "1". Done by VCCzar Playthroughs by Conservative Elector 2, NY Republican, VCCzar, JViking1 Changed the candidates on the PA ballot, so that both Adams and Jefferson could win one of the ballot, thus splitting the vote as had happened in real life. Done by VCCzar Candidate goals fixed by JViking1 Weakened campaign power of John Jay by VCCzar Vermont ballots fixed by JViking1 Delaware ballots fixed by VCCzar Regional issues set by CalebsParadox Burr experience reduced to 3 by CalebsParadox Burr and Pinckney blurbs updated by CalebsParadox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Conservative Elector 2 338 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 @vcczar I plan to play through tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Conservative Elector 2 said: @vcczar I plan to play through tomorrow. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 @vcczar what did I miss in the issue icons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, NYrepublican said: @vcczar what did I miss in the issue icons? You missed nothing in 1800. I'll check the others as I get to each scenario. Good work! @Patine The money coefficient for this scenario is 4. Does that seem right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 514 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, vcczar said: You missed nothing in 1800. I'll check the others as I get to each scenario. Good work! @Patine The money coefficient for this scenario is 4. Does that seem right? I, myself, wouldn't set it a 4 until after the Panic of 1837 (so, 1840, at the earliest). I'd keep it at 3 for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Patine said: I, myself, wouldn't set it a 4 until after the Panic of 1837 (so, 1840, at the earliest). I'd keep it at 3 for now. Ok, thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 @vcczar in some later scenarios like 1948 the ads are dirt cheap.In 1948 for example I can run an ad in all 50 states for only $813 per 7 day turn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 514 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, NYrepublican said: @vcczar in some later scenarios like 1948 the ads are dirt cheap.In 1948 for example I can run an ad in all 50 states for only $813 per 7 day turn. I believe that's going to be addressed by @vcczar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Just saying, with the new events I just added, this is going to be a cool election to play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 how much more needs to be done for 1800? I can do the beta-testing if you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: how much more needs to be done for 1800? I can do the beta-testing if you want. I just need people to play it through to see if they can find errors, unrealstic imbalances, typos in issues and candidate descriptions, suggestions, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, vcczar said: I just need people to play it through to see if they can find errors, unrealstic imbalances, typos in issues and candidate descriptions, suggestions, etc. I don't know enough about the early years to tell you about unrealistic imbalances but I can check for typos and issue suggestions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: I don't know enough about the early years to tell you about unrealistic imbalances but I can check for typos and issue suggestions. If you could do that and playthrough the election (and let me know your results), that will be helpful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, vcczar said: If you could do that and playthrough the election (and let me know your results), that will be helpful. just e-mail it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: just e-mail it. It's yet to arrive to my email yet. Any reason you can't post it here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 minute ago, vcczar said: It's yet to arrive to my email yet. Any reason you can't post it here? oh the one online I thought you e-mail me the latest give me a minute to download it (I'm also setting up a poll right now) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: oh the one online I thought you e-mail me the latest give me a minute to download it (I'm also setting up a poll right now) I just need people to play the existing edition, since the mechanics are approximately the same. I haven't changed any of the wording, so any typos that exist have not been fixed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 list of typos: On the right's position regarding France, enemy is misspelled. On the Alien and Sedition acts the right's position, "Increase the alien sedition acts" makes no sense. I think it should be "expand the alien and sedition acts" On the size of the military issue for the left's position militia is misspelled also the center-right position should be "Dramatically increase the size of the military" not increased. For taxes the center position should read "Taxes are fine as they are" for the center-right position on slavery you forgot to put a space between slavery and is I'm testing the rest now. @vcczar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 23 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: list of typos: On the right's position regarding France, enemy is misspelled. On the Alien and Sedition acts the right's position, "Increase the alien sedition acts" makes no sense. I think it should be "expand the alien and sedition acts" On the size of the military issue for the left's position militia is misspelled also the center-right position should be "Dramatically increase the size of the military" not increased. For taxes the center position should read "Taxes are fine as they are" for the center-right position on slavery you forgot to put a space between slavery and is I'm testing the rest now. @vcczar Thanks. Changes have been made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 I did a playthrough (only space-barred through, though) with the version that is getting updated. Adams and Pinckney were elected, with Adams winning by a larger margin than expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I played as jefferson in 1800 and I think I did Ok i still wonder who'd become president and VP in this scenario.Once you apply the changes the scenario should be fine. @vcczar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: I played as jefferson in 1800 and I think I did Ok i still wonder who'd become president and VP in this scenario.Once you apply the changes the scenario should be fine. @vcczar Thanks, that's a realistic result. I just did a 2nd playthrough and got another Adams/Pinckney win. If he wins on the 3rd attempt, then I have to assume my events are favoring Adams and/or hurting Jefferson at the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 @vcczar who would become president and VP in that scenario? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,271 Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, NYrepublican said: @vcczar who would become president and VP in that scenario? It would go to the House as it did in real life. They would determine between the two. In real life, both Jefferson and Burr tied. Rep. Bayard of DE decided the election after several house ballots. Hamilton detested Burr so much that he fought for his ideological adversary, and helped convince Bayard to support Jefferson. The controversy was that Burr knew he was supposed to be the VP, and didn't prevent some of his supporters from voting for him, so that Jefferson would have at least one more vote than him. It was fiasco, basically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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