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2 minutes ago, NYrepublican said:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/25/texas-lawmakers-now-bracing-harvey-voted-sandy-spending

I expect he'll now want unconditional money for his state instead of stalling the bill for 60 days like he (and all but one member of the GOP Texas delegation) did for Sandy.

If the bill has pork in it like the Sandy one did, I hope he does. The Sandy bill was 2/3rds pork and he made the honorable choice as he always seems to do.

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2 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

If the bill has pork in it like the Sandy one did, I hope he does. The Sandy bill was 2/3rds pork and he made the honorable choice as he always seems to do.

You forget that Sandy also affected Carribean islands and East Coast states aside from NY and NJ. (Such as the damage to the Smithsonian building) The bill did include some other disaster funding from 2012 but these were declared disasters so including them in that bill is relatively logical. The $100 Million for Head Start was limited to damaged facilities in NY and NJ.

The bill also included funds to improve weather forecasting ($25 million), and upgrades to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration aircraft ($44.5 million). Those provisions were intended to prevent future disasters so including them makes a certain amount of sense.

 

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1 minute ago, NYrepublican said:

You forget that Sandy also affected Carribean islands and East Coast states aside from NY and NJ. (Such as the damage to the Smithsonian building) The bill did include some other disaster funding from 2012 but these were declared disasters so including them in that bill is relatively logical. The $100 Million for Head Start was limited to damaged facilities in NY and NJ.

The bill also included funds to improve weather forecasting ($25 million), and upgrades to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration aircraft ($44.5 million). Those provisions were intended to prevent future disasters so including them makes a certain amount of sense.

 

Ok, I didn't say it didn't it just also included a lot of pork.

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1 minute ago, EndOfCapitalism said:

A GREEDY CAPITALIST IS UNQUALIFIED TO BE POTUS

Hehehe; looks like we have a lover of a system that has brought upon suffering for millions of people

I guess he didn't pay attention in his history class.

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Just now, jvikings1 said:

Hehehe; looks like we have a lover of a system that has brought upon suffering for millions of people

I guess he didn't pay attention in his history class.

CAPITALISM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST 205,000,000 PEOPLE SO I WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT CAPITALISM IS.

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2 minutes ago, EndOfCapitalism said:

CAPITALISM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST 205,000,000 PEOPLE SO I WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT CAPITALISM IS.

Not sure where you get those numbers, but Communism has a recorded and provable body count.

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1 minute ago, EndOfCapitalism said:

HERE'S A VIDEO WHICH  SUMS UP MY RESEARCH VERY WELL.

 

Yeah no, that is the result of more Government Control over the Free Market as well as Neoconservative Foreign Policy, I favor neither, and neither are Capitalist, the former being closer to Communism and many of those deaths can be added to the Death Count of Bigger Government. None of them were directly killed by Capitalism, not a single one.

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1 minute ago, Reagan04 said:

Yeah no, that is the result of more Government Control over the Free Market as well as Neoconservative Foreign Policy, I favor neither, and neither are Capitalist, the former being closer to Communism and many of those deaths can be added to the Death Count of Bigger Government. None of them were directly killed by Capitalism, not a single one.

So the slave trade to take an example had nothing to do with capitalism?

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Just now, EndOfCapitalism said:

So the slave trade to take an example had nothing to do with capitalism?

No that was Colonialism and a Government imposed system, that is REAL State Capitalism, the owning of another human is inherently Uncapitalist. All of these have to do with Bigger Government restricting Freedom. 

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1 minute ago, Reagan04 said:

No that was Colonialism and a Government imposed system, that is REAL State Capitalism, the owning of another human is inherently Uncapitalist. All of these have to do with Bigger Government restricting Freedom. 

Capitalism:an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Owning of slaves in NOT excluded from that by definition

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Just now, EndOfCapitalism said:

Capitalism:an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Owning of slaves in NOT excluded from that by definition

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Sure you can go to the dictionary definition, but one sentence can't describe an entire Economic Philosophy, in that definition of "a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." implies that everyone gets a chance to take a slice in that, otherwise it would be an Oligarchical, Aristocratic, or Plutocratic Economic system, Slavery is simply incompatible with true Free Market Capitalism.

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2 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

Sure you can go to the dictionary definition, but one sentence can't describe an entire Economic Philosophy, in that definition of "a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." implies that everyone gets a chance to take a slice in that, otherwise it would be an Oligarchical, Aristocratic, or Plutocratic Economic system, Slavery is simply incompatible with true Free Market Capitalism.


Oh really?

The UN estimates that 27-30 Million people are caught in the current slave trade. I challenge you to tell me that's completely divorced from "true capitalism"

 

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Just now, EndOfCapitalism said:


Oh really?

The UN estimates that 27-30 Million people are caught in the current slave trade. I challenge you to tell me that's completely divorced from "true capitalism"

 

Well sure, as I said again, True Free Market Capitalism does not bar anyone from holding possessions or being able to make their own economic decisions, the current slave trade is about people being forced to perform a job they do not want to. In the Free Market, you can quit a job or seek one whenever you'd like. You can buy whatever you'd like and you can sell whatever you'd like. These poor individuals do not have that freedom, and when you have this "Capitalism" that less than 100% of the adult population can reap the freedoms and benefits of, you end in Oligarchy, or Plutocracy, or Aristocracy, sometimes even Fascism.

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@EndOfCapitalism That is a terribly biased and unsourced video, that is like me citing Breitbart, please let us keep our discussion on the intellectual non-conspiracy theorist level.

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1 minute ago, EndOfCapitalism said:

@Reagan04 It's amusing you'd say it was biased given that your quick response proves you didn't watch any significant portion of it.

Or that I have already seen it, trust me it is a popular video among members of your ideology. 

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Just now, EndOfCapitalism said:

@Reagan04 you and @jvikings1 claim that Communism is responsible for the deaths of millions when Communism hasn't really been tried yet as it calls for a fall of Govt. as rapidly as possible.

Ok, here we go with Communism hasn't been tried. No matter how much you say that, you don't get to wish away facts, it has in many time periods, many nations, and many varieties, we've tried Soft Communism in Venezuela and Cuba, Hard Communism in the USSR and China, and everything between. It fails every time because there is no such thing as universal ownership, only total government ownership, perhaps you advocate for Anarchy, have fun with Mad Max, but Communism has been tried so many times that suggesting we should give it another go is quite dangerous frankly.

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1 minute ago, Reagan04 said:

Ok, here we go with Communism hasn't been tried. No matter how much you say that, you don't get to wish away facts, it has in many time periods, many nations, and many varieties, we've tried Soft Communism in Venezuela and Cuba, Hard Communism in the USSR and China, and everything between. It fails every time because there is no such thing as universal ownership, only total government ownership, perhaps you advocate for Anarchy, have fun with Mad Max, but Communism has been tried so many times that suggesting we should give it another go is quite dangerous frankly.

1.Venezuela is Socialist not Communist there's a difference.

2.Cuba was ruled by a U.S backed dictatorship and the U.S had meddled in its politics for years (example:The Platt Amendment)

3. China and the USSR were led by morally corrupt officials so saying they demonstrated Communism is a stretch (For example Stalin's policies aimed at breaking the spirit of Ukrainians)

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