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  1. 1. Are you economically?

    • Far-left
      1
    • Left
      10
    • Center-left
      4
    • Center
      6
    • Center-right
      7
    • Right
      5
    • Far-right
      3
  2. 2. Socially?

    • Far-left
      4
    • Left
      13
    • Center-left
      8
    • Center
      6
    • Center-right
      1
    • Right
      2
    • Far-right
      2
  3. 3. Which party would you support more than the others?

    • Democratic Party
      19
    • Republican Party
      10
    • Libertarian Party
      4
    • Green Party
      2
    • Constitution Party
      1
    • Socialiast Party
      0


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4 hours ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

Please answer this :) 

The 3rd question bugs me the most, since most polls like these only have the question "which party are you affilliated?" 

I am not a dem. But I support dems.

That question bugs me too. I don't like any of the U.S. Parties. In fact, I really think I've come to detest the largest parties in the U.S. and, as I have been saying, I think the U.S. is LONG overdue for a political party shake-up. So forgive me if my conscience doesn't allow me to answer this particular poll. :( 

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

That question bugs me too. I don't like any of the U.S. Parties. In fact, I really think I've come to detest the largest parties in the U.S. and, as I have been saying, I think the U.S. is LONG overdue for a political party shake-up. So forgive me if my conscience doesn't allow me to answer this particular poll. :( 

It's fine, at least you have parties there. In my country political parties are very unofficial

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1 minute ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

It's fine, at least you have parties there. In my country political parties are very unofficial

Also, I don't live in the United States, but we do indeed have parties where I live, which are only marginally more bearable nowadays than the U.S. ones.

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

That question bugs me too. I don't like any of the U.S. Parties. In fact, I really think I've come to detest the largest parties in the U.S. and, as I have been saying, I think the U.S. is LONG overdue for a political party shake-up. So forgive me if my conscience doesn't allow me to answer this particular poll. :( 

I think our parties are so ingrained that I doubt the smaller parties will ever emerge as contenders, so long as we have the electoral college. Every since 1992, it's always seemed like a 3rd party would break through. We had opportunities in 1992, 1996, 2016, but in all instances, they fell through. 1992 and 1996 don't really count because they weren't really parties, but rather a cult around one man (Perot with the Reform Party). 2016 was THE opportunity for these parties, and they reached their greatest success in numbers, but still fell far below two terrible candidates of the major parties. 

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The problem with third parties is that they choose horrible candidates at the wrong times.  The Green Party and Libertarian Party both had awful candidates which makes it hard to feel sorry for them.

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Just now, HomosexualSocialist said:

The duopoly of democrats and republicans is unacceptable. People's views are different and there should be more parties to represent that 

why are the names hidden?

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2 minutes ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

The duopoly of democrats and republicans is unacceptable. People's views are different and there should be more parties to represent that 

There are different factions within the parties.  It isn't like the party pushes a single ideology that all in the party are forces to follow.  But, pressure on either side wouldn't be bad because it would help keep politicians accountable to their promises.

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1 minute ago, jvikings1 said:

There are different factions within the parties.  It isn't like the party pushes a single ideology that all in the party are forces to follow.  But, pressure on either side wouldn't be bad because it would help keep politicians accountable to their promises.

I agree to you on this, factions are good. But more parties would better in my opinion. And I think americans should elect their president without the electoral college. 

America is the oldest if not one of the oldest democracy, I believe some old systems should be changed or debunked.

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7 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

The problem with third parties is that they choose horrible candidates at the wrong times.  The Green Party and Libertarian Party both had awful candidates which makes it hard to feel sorry for them.

The Democrats and Republicans both also chose absolutely awful candidates in the same election. To me, it was just a God-awful election year for all the significant party leader choices all around.

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Just now, Patine said:

The Democrats and Republicans both also chose absolutely awful candidates in the same election. To me, it was just a God-awful election year for all the significant party leader choices all around.

Sanders would've been easier to stomach. His integrity is good. 

Jeb Bush, although he ran a lackluster campaign I view him and rubio the only republicans I can stomach.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

The Democrats and Republicans both also chose absolutely awful candidates in the same election. To me, it was just a God-awful election year for all the significant party leader choices all around.

I was referring to the chances for third parties to gain in this election.  They threw away a great opportunity with their candidate choices.

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

The Democrats and Republicans both also chose absolutely awful candidates in the same election. To me, it was just a God-awful election year for all the significant party leader choices all around.

Trump makes a lot of inflammatory speeches. 

People are comparing him with my president but my president has 22 years of experience in politics. While he virtually has nothing, take a look at how f*cked up the USA is now? His entire administration and plans has been overshadowed by the russia scandal. 

 

Clinton has problems too, she represents the democratic party establishment , which is in any way BAD! Although her email scandal has been overpowered ( what ever you call that) by the media it still bugs me that someone running for president has integrity issues. 

 

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3 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

I was referring to the chances for third parties to gain in this election.  They threw away a great opportunity with their candidate choices.

Yes, I believe johnson had been polling about 7 and stein at 4. 

Take away strategic voters ( who votes for those who have a chance( 

They must have taken at least 8 % total. Which didn't happen. 

At first gary was on fire, he was even considered to go to the debates. But that interview with his tongue weirded me out. 

Stein, I dont really know? Was it because she got arrested?

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31 minutes ago, vcczar said:

I think our parties are so ingrained that I doubt the smaller parties will ever emerge as contenders, so long as we have the electoral college. Every since 1992, it's always seemed like a 3rd party would break through. We had opportunities in 1992, 1996, 2016, but in all instances, they fell through. 1992 and 1996 don't really count because they weren't really parties, but rather a cult around one man (Perot with the Reform Party). 2016 was THE opportunity for these parties, and they reached their greatest success in numbers, but still fell far below two terrible candidates of the major parties. 

I quiete hate the electoral college. It does not represent the "one man one vote"

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1 minute ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

Trump makes a lot of inflammatory speeches. 

People are comparing him with my president but my president has 22 years of experience in politics. While he virtually has nothing, take a look at how f*cked up the USA is now? His entire administration and plans has been overshadowed by the russia scandal. 

 

Clinton has problems too, she represents the democratic party establishment , which is in any way BAD! Although her email scandal has been overpowered ( what ever you call that) by the media it still bugs me that someone running for president has integrity issues. 

 

Trump has experience from a different side of politics. For years, he had been funding politicians from both parties because he needed their influence as a businessman.  Also, I would hardly say it has been overshadowed by the so-called Russia Scandal.  While there has been media coverage, many people don't trust the media.  

Also, her email scandal wasn't overblown by the media.  The mainstream media tried to downplay it s much as they could because they were in the tank for her.  Many legal experts believe that she committed a serious crime despite the recommendation the Comey.

3 minutes ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

Yes, I believe johnson had been polling about 7 and stein at 4. 

Take away strategic voters ( who votes for those who have a chance( 

They must have taken at least 8 % total. Which didn't happen. 

At first gary was on fire, he was even considered to go to the debates. But that interview with his tongue weirded me out. 

Stein, I dont really know? Was it because she got arrested?

Johnson had a horrible time during the campaign.  Stein was crazy, and her VP candidate was even more crazy.

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Just now, jvikings1 said:

Trump has experience from a different side of politics. For years, he had been funding politicians from both parties because he needed their influence as a businessman.  Also, I would hardly say it has been overshadowed by the so-called Russia Scandal.  While there has been media coverage, many people don't trust the media.  

Also, her email scandal wasn't overblown by the media.  The mainstream media tried to downplay it s much as they could because they were in the tank for her.  Many legal experts believe that she committed a serious crime despite the recommendation the Comey.

Johnson had a horrible time during the campaign.  Stein was crazy, and her VP candidate was even more crazy.

That Ajamu Baraka guy?

 

What did they do wrong, haha

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1 minute ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

I quiete hate the electoral college. It does not represent the "one man one vote"

A lot of Americans (especially right-wing ones) like to defend the Electoral College and talk about the "the tyranny of the majority," and different regions getting overshadowed by bigger ones, and other such things. But hey. Someone  famous basically completely agrees and paraphrases that sentiment. Someone they'll just love to have their back on the issue.

"Democracy is akin to prostitution," the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeni, 1982.

What an ideological endorser!

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35 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

The problem with third parties is that they choose horrible candidates at the wrong times.  The Green Party and Libertarian Party both had awful candidates which makes it hard to feel sorry for them.

True.   I might actually have voted that way if we got Austin Petersen.

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8 minutes ago, Patine said:

A lot of Americans (especially right-wing ones) like to defend the Electoral College and talk about the "the tyranny of the majority," and different regions getting overshadowed by bigger ones, and other such things. But hey. Someone  famous basically completely agrees and paraphrases that sentiment. Someone they'll just love to have their back on the issue.

"Democracy is akin to prostitution," the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeni, 1982.

What an ideological endorser!

There's no tyranny of the majority. Just because the majority's opinion is contrast to someone's opinion , it's already TYRANNY. 

While I believe there is a tyranny of the minority, the rich 1% who controls politics. 

And this may be an unpopular opinion, most policies have been enacted for minority groups. I believe laws should be passed FOR the MAJORITY.

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8 minutes ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

There's no tyranny of the majority. Just because the majority's opinion is contrast to someone's opinion , it's already TYRANNY. 

While I believe there is a tyranny of the minority, the rich 1% who controls politics. 

And this may be an unpopular opinion, most policies have been enacted for minority groups. I believe laws should be passed FOR the MAJORITY.

I was being fesicious in my quote. I too am a big critic of the Electoral College and believe it needs to abolished completely, as, of the three main reasons it was originally created (as, to guarantee small states protection against big states and the tyranny of the majority are myths created later down the line for apologists who support the EC's continued existence, completely unreformed, and were not of the original reasons at the Constitutional Convention), one of them is obsolete long ago (to appease Slave States to prevent them from leaving the Union before it was firmly formed and taking all the lucrative cotton revenue with them), one is just demeaning to American voters of all political stripes in general (when Alexander Hamilton, the architect of EC, who seems that he would have preferred an outright technocracy as the U.S. if he could have gotten away with it, who held a very low regard for the competence and capability of the average voter in making political decisions), and third, the one which outright FAILED AS IT WAS INTENDED and completed the failure of the Electoral College by it's own original design in 2016 - to stop populist from getting into the White House (a populist much like Donald Trump).

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