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UK General Election Poll 2017


UK General Election 2017  

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  1. 1. Who are you backing in the UK election in June?

    • Conservatives
    • Labour
    • UKIP
    • Lib Dems
    • Greens
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    • SNP
      0
    • Plaid Cymru
      0
    • SDLP
      0
    • Sinn Fein
      0
    • DUP
      0
    • UUP
      0
    • Alliance
      0
    • BNP
      0
    • Monster Raving Loony
    • Other
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  2. 2. Who do you think would make the best Prime Minister?

    • Theresa May
    • Jeremy Corbyn
    • Tim Farron
    • Paul Nuttal
    • Caroline Lucas
    • Howling Laud Hope


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3 minutes ago, wolves said:

No she was right, UKIP votes majority went to her but Labour got a gain from young people

The Tories went 5,5% forward and Labour went 9,9% forward. UKIP lost 10%. Is there a statistics that shows where the parties voters came from?

There was 2.2% more turnout than last election. I actually think that the UKIP voters stayed home.

 

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2 minutes ago, koneke said:

Is there a statistics that shows where the parties voters came from?

Cause its private ballot, no.

3 minutes ago, koneke said:

The Tories went 5,5% forward and Labour went 9,9% forward

Yeah and UKIP only got 12%, not 16% last election. Labour was boosted by youth turnout and falling third parties.

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8 minutes ago, wolves said:

Cause its private ballot, no.

- we have such statistics in my country. I guess it is through polling.

Yeah and UKIP only got 12%, not 16% last election. Labour was boosted by youth turnout and falling third parties.

- Is there any statistics where youth turnout boosted Labour or is it just accepted knowledge we can't confirm?

 

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Just now, koneke said:

there any statistics where youth turnout boosted Labour or is it just accepted knowledge we can't confirm?

Accepted knowledge.

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11 minutes ago, wolves said:

Accepted knowledge.

https://gyazo.com/6da1f65be878be57e5727a98f237acf9

This is a poll from the 2015 election.

We can see that it's the young females in the 18-29 group that is pulling the weight for Labour.

With a stunning 29-41 difference.

Sadly the statistic doesn't include a racial category. It could show us if the non-whites have a diverse set of opinions or if they're acting tribally.

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18 minutes ago, koneke said:

https://gyazo.com/6da1f65be878be57e5727a98f237acf9

This is a poll from the 2015 election.

We can see that it's the young females in the 18-29 group that is pulling the weight for Labour.

With a stunning 29-41 difference.

Sadly the statistic doesn't include a racial category. It could show us if the non-whites have a diverse set of opinions or if they're acting tribally.

You know what you have in common with an Iron Age Celtic Druid? You're whole world view is based on myths, fairy tales, and outdated, anachronistic traditions...

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I was watching Sky News.  They said that while most of the UKIP vote that left UKIP went to the Tories, the Labor got a substantial amount of it.  There were even some areas where it was almost evenly split.  This was one of the explanations for May's disaster.

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3 hours ago, koneke said:

https://gyazo.com/6da1f65be878be57e5727a98f237acf9

This is a poll from the 2015 election.

We can see that it's the young females in the 18-29 group that is pulling the weight for Labour.

With a stunning 29-41 difference.

Sadly the statistic doesn't include a racial category. It could show us if the non-whites have a diverse set of opinions or if they're acting tribally.

Why are all of your arguments and posts rooted from race?

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13 hours ago, LegolasRedbard said:

He's the son of former Labour leader Neil Kinnock, who was a decent leader, until he got on the European gravy train and became Vice President of the European Commission, IMO spoiling his legacy a bit.

and he is the husband of the ex danish prime minister.

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14 hours ago, koneke said:

I am a Richard Spencer type White Nationalist. My main focus is demographics, because we can't make Western Civilization great again with brown babies.

Richard Spencer is more of a centerist then far right apart from being a white nationalist infact he is supporting a democrat in 2020 if she run forgot her name she from hawaii thought.

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15 hours ago, Patine said:

You know what you have in common with an Iron Age Celtic Druid? You're whole world view is based on myths, fairy tales, and outdated, anachronistic traditions...

You're embarrassing yourself. Being ridiculous doesn't mean you say something intelligent. You're constantly coming with ad hominems which is a very dishonest way of debating. Please comment if you have a problem with my arguments, and tell me where i am wrong instead of these snarky comments that is aimed to put me down. You're a grown adult, now act as one.

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12 hours ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

Why are all of your arguments and posts rooted from race?

Race is an underrated thing, peoples identity is mostly racial and race has a lot to do with how people act and perceive themselves and others in society. 94% of Africans in the US voted for Obama in 2012. This goes to show that people vote based on their ethnic identity. I refuse to admit that 94% of africans in the US agrees on policy, that would be odd. It goes to show that race can be an incredibly big factor in social and political life. Often underreported. This is one of the reasons non-white immigration doesn't work because they act as if they're a part of a tribe and not as part of the bigger society.

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4 minutes ago, koneke said:

Race is an underrated thing, peoples identity is mostly racial and race has a lot to do with how people act and perceive themselves and others in society. 94% of Africans in the US voted for Obama in 2012. This goes to show that people vote based on their ethnic identity. I refuse to admit that 94% of africans in the US agrees on policy, that would be odd. It goes to show that race can be an incredibly big factor in social and political life. Often underreported. This is one of the reasons non-white immigration doesn't work because they act as if they're a tribe and not as part of the bigger society.

um That also happens for white but is generally more divided by geography and religous affliation and age.

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5 minutes ago, republicaninnyc said:

um That also happens for white but is generally more divided by geography and religous affliation and age.

Whites, excluding a large proportion in the South have accepted that they do not vote based on race and other factors but on merits. All other races, blacks, spics etc. votes with race in their mind before merit. Either all races should accept real meritocrazy or all races should vote their ethnic group. You can't have this where one does it on merit and all the other do it to further their interests. That is frustrating to see as an outsider and it's not working.

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7 minutes ago, koneke said:

Race is an underrated thing, peoples identity is mostly racial and race has a lot to do with how people act and perceive themselves and others in society. 94% of Africans in the US voted for Obama in 2012. This goes to show that people vote based on their ethnic identity. I refuse to admit that 94% of africans in the US agrees on policy, that would be odd. It goes to show that race can be an incredibly big factor in social and political life. Often underreported. This is one of the reasons non-white immigration doesn't work because they act as if they're a part of a tribe and not as part of the bigger society.

I have no words.

I respect your opinion but I disagree. Yes there may be differrences in political ideology within the black community. 

The reason that,as you say, 94 % of blacks voted for obama was because obama was the first black president and he's like an insipiration. 

Why did you say "act part of a tribe not part of a bigger society"? Please elaborate make me understand why you've said that.

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Just now, koneke said:

Whites, excluding a large proportion in the South have accepted that they do not vote based on race and other factors but on merits. All other races, blacks, spics etc. votes with race in their mind before merit.

In some cases though how do you explain the guranteed 1/3 of the hispanic vote that the republicans get in presidential elections and even a majoirty or extremely close to such in states like Texas (In state-wide elections and sometimes presidential elections).

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2 minutes ago, koneke said:

Whites, excluding a large proportion in the South have accepted that they do not vote based on race and other factors but on merits. All other races, blacks, spics etc. votes with race in their mind before merit.

Of course they'd look at race first , since they are  a minority and they believe that If a minority is running for office is that they should support them. 

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13 minutes ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

I have no words.

I respect your opinion but I disagree. Yes there may be differrences in political ideology within the black community. 

The reason that,as you say, 94 % of blacks voted for obama was because obama was the first black president and he's like an insipiration. 

Why did you say "act part of a tribe not part of a bigger society"? Please elaborate make me understand why you've said that.

He was not even a black president, he was a mulatto. But if you apply the one-drop rule i guess you can assign him as black.

If they voted for him for that reason it was a racial motivation. It is contradictory to the whole post-racial society utopia that leftists have been pushing. I just refuse to admit that there is so little intellectual diversity in the black community, that 94% are socialist/communist statists. It'd be weird. So the racial aspect must have mobilised them.

In society you can either want to improve the ethnic interests of your own group or the interests of all citizens in the country. Non-whites who move to white countries seems to have a strong preference for furthering the interests of their own ethnic group also called the tribe. While whites seems interested in furthering the interests of all citizens in the country. We see that by whites electing Trump who is being a civic nationalist. He wants to improve the lives of all Americans.

To sum it up, i think whites are being taken advantage over because they have chosen to give up their racial consciousness with the expectation that other races would follow suit, while other races hasn't.

12 minutes ago, HomosexualSocialist said:

Of course they'd look at race first , since they are  a minority and they believe that If a minority is running for office is that they should support them. 

Whites are a global minority, they're becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the world population, while blacks and to some extend asians are becoming a bigger and bigger percentage of the world population. Look at the population expansion in Africa and the Mideast, it is insane.

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3 minutes ago, koneke said:

He was not even a black president, he was a mulatto. But if you apply the one-drop rule i guess you can assign him as black.

If they voted for him for that reason it was a racial motivation. It is contradictory to the whole post-racial society utopia that leftists have been pushing. I just refuse to admit that there is so little intellectual diversity in the black community, that 94% are socialist/communist statists. It'd be weird. So the racial aspect must have mobilised them.

In society you can either want to improve the ethnic interests of your own group or the interests of all citizens in the country. Non-whites who move to white countries seems to have a strong preference for furthering the interests of their own ethnic group also called the tribe. While whites seems interested in furthering the interests of all citizens in the country. We see that by whites electing Trump who is being a civic nationalist. He wants to improve the lives of all Americans.

 

Tribalism has always been around in democracy and when you divide down into more virtual tribes like Gender for example you'll see huge differences

For example

12%(or so) is the percentage of Blacks who voted Trump while only 4% of Black Women did.

 

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6 minutes ago, koneke said:

He was not even a black president, he was a mulatto. But if you apply the one-drop rule i guess you can assign him as black.

If they voted for him for that reason it was a racial motivation. It is contradictory to the whole post-racial society utopia that leftists have been pushing. I just refuse to admit that there is so little intellectual diversity in the black community, that 94% are socialist/communist statists. It'd be weird. So the racial aspect must have mobilised them.

In society you can either want to improve the ethnic interests of your own group or the interests of all citizens in the country. Non-whites who move to white countries seems to have a strong preference for furthering the interests of their own ethnic group also called the tribe. While whites seems interested in furthering the interests of all citizens in the country. We see that by whites electing Trump who is being a civic nationalist. He wants to improve the lives of all Americans.

To sum it up, i think whites are being taken advantage over because they have chosen to give up their racial consciousness with the expectation that other races would follow suit, while other races hasn't.

Whites are a global minority, they're becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the world population, while blacks and to some extend asians are becoming a bigger and bigger percentage of the world population. Look at the population expansion in Africa and the Mideast, it is insane.

Why is it insane? Multiculturism is a great thing. 

I don't really care about the "race" argument I just can't stomach what you're saying. 

obama is not a socialist.

Really? From what I could see trump is improving his own life. I don't believe that he geniunely wants to make every american's lives better. 

I'll stop arguing with you now, your views seem uncompromisable.

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13 minutes ago, koneke said:

He was not even a black president, he was a mulatto. But if you apply the one-drop rule i guess you can assign him as black.

If they voted for him for that reason it was a racial motivation. It is contradictory to the whole post-racial society utopia that leftists have been pushing. I just refuse to admit that there is so little intellectual diversity in the black community, that 94% are socialist/communist statists. It'd be weird. So the racial aspect must have mobilised them.

In society you can either want to improve the ethnic interests of your own group or the interests of all citizens in the country. Non-whites who move to white countries seems to have a strong preference for furthering the interests of their own ethnic group also called the tribe. While whites seems interested in furthering the interests of all citizens in the country. We see that by whites electing Trump who is being a civic nationalist. He wants to improve the lives of all Americans.

To sum it up, i think whites are being taken advantage over because they have chosen to give up their racial consciousness with the expectation that other races would follow suit, while other races hasn't.

Whites are a global minority, they're becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the world population, while blacks and to some extend asians are becoming a bigger and bigger percentage of the world population. Look at the population expansion in Africa and the Mideast, it is insane.

So you really believe that there should be a white majority in the whole world?

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