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Just now, Patine said:

A Republic of California, or a Republic of California in a fictitious future in 2048 as I've laid it down - and if the latter, EXPLAIN!

Republic of California

but in 2019

i was even making the scenario :'(

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Just now, wolves said:

Republic of California

but in 2019

i was even making the scenario :'(

Ah. In my case, this is just a starting scenario of a broad series of them that will (ideally) cover many nations in a fictitious 2048 future, with completely fictitious candidates and a lot of creative liberties taken.

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18 hours ago, Patine said:

I haven't played Victoria 2, but I'd say, roughly, the biggest demographic groups would be:

-Affluent Coastal Whites

-Middle Class Coastal Whites

-Working Class Coastal Whites

-Silicon Valley Whites (a distinct group)

-Interior and Northern Whites

-Asians

-Affluent Blacks

-Middle and Working Class Blacks

-Poor Blacks

-Hispanics (not sure how to subdivide them)

-Pacific Islanders

-Native Americans

-Middle-Eastern

Mix that with the main religious (and non-religious) groups, sexual orientations, gender, etc., and you've got your general blocks.

The economy of the Republic of California is based strongly on software and media production (of which it's among the five nations producing the biggest output thereof in the world in 2048) and is also a leader in the development of ecological technologies. Most other economic sectors are in support of that or the actual governance of the nation or a significant drop from them in terms of fiscal output.

That's a very rough outline.

Exactly what I was looking for! I think you can divide Hispanics like this: first generation immigrants, and second and higher generation( at this point I'll think they'll think they are whites, much like by the 1960s Italians and Poles began to not view themselves as minorities).

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Okay, here is the first draft of candidates (all fictitious individuals) for this scenario:

New California Progressive Party

-President Ryan Colden - An Oakland-born U.S. Marine Corps captain before the secession of California and Nevada who was an activist for veteran rights and against unofficial "coerced religious envangelization" in U.S. Military ranks and U.S. military foreign policy and conduct, he was an active part of the movement around the secession and creation of the Republic of California, becoming the first commander of the Republic of California Armed Forces (RCAF), then a member of the Executive Council (the official term in the Constitution of the Republic of California for the Cabinet analog), holding the offices of State, Defense, and Justice at different points, then elected for the New California Progressive Party in 2044. He is running for re-election.

-Mayor Anna Maria Alvarez - The sitting Mayor of Los Angeles and a major activist for development of infrastructure, nationalized healthcare and education, and improved standards of living.

-Speaker Terri Freedman - The sitting Speaker of the California Assembly from Orange County, she is a strong supporter of developing derelict urban neighbourhoods and isolated desert and mountainous rural regions to bring prosperity across the country.

-Mayor Jacob Silverstein III - Mayor of Carson City in the formerly separate State of Nevada and from a long family business history in both Hollywood and Casino entertainment, he seeks to tow the party line on internal improvement and living standards in the country, but mostly to make it the most attractive entertainment and tourism hub in the world.

-Senator Gregory Patch - Formerly one of the three most dominant members of the decentralized Green Party of California before they agreed to merge with the New California Progressive Party in exchange for the latter pursuing ecological economic policies, and now a member of the California Senate, he is running for the New California Progressive nomination on a strongly ecologically-dominant platform.

-Ms. Kelly Southwind - A retired media actress and producer, and now philanthropist and activist, she is running for the New California Progressive nomination based on very liberal and progressive social views.

Pacific Liberty Party

-Mayor Harold Grey - The Mayor of San Diego and a prominent voice and leadership figure in, and co-founder of, the Pacific Liberty Party who was the running mate in a joint ticket with the Pacific Rim Economist Party that lost to Colden in 2044, he is now running for the Pacific Liberty nomination in this election.

-Senator Grace Vere - The heirless of a large landowning company that owns large swaths of rural, interior land with tens of thousands of leasing ranchers, miners, and other utilizers, she is running for the Pacific Liberty nomination largely against heavy land taxation and restrictions on land usage.

-Senator James Harrison - The leader of the Jefferson Region Independence Movement, a non-partisan organization devoted to the separation of the northernmost counties from the Republic of California (but whose planned political fate after that is unclear), he is running for the Pacific Liberty nomination to advance his cause.

-Imperial County Supervisor Kenneth Young - One of the members of the Imperial County Board of Supervisors, one of his biggest concerns is what he feels is the now more neglected border between the Republic of California and Mexico.

-Chieftess Lynn Appodaca - The elected tribal chairwoman of the Tejon Indian Tribe of California and an advocate for both greater recognition of Native American lands within the Republic of California, as well as greater rights of all legitimate landowners over their own lands and hunting and fishing rights for all.

-Mr. Chad Trevors - A freelance software designer, and alleged skilled hacker in his youth, Trevors carries the banner of many of the planks of the old Pirate Party International movement.

Pacific Rim Economist Party

-Mr. Victor Prince - The CEO and 38% shareholder of Virtuacom, a corporate consolidation of many California-based media and software firms, and easily the wealthiest man in the Republic of California and one of the top 20 richest peoples in the world 2048, is running for the nomination of the Pacific Rim Economist Party, a party he's previously been a major donor and endorser to since it's inception.

-Mayor Dio Johnson - The Mayor of Las Vegas and a self-made billionaire, Johnson is running for the Pacific Rim Economist nomination as the main interior candidate for the party.

-Senator Deborah Yekanochev - A California Senator from Monterrey, she is running for the Pacific Rim Economist nomination on a strongly fiscally-conservative and business-friendly platform, but, unlike the others running in her party, is economically nationalist and protectionist.

-Ambassador Tony Sagawara - A Japanese-Californian economist born in San Francisco, and one of only two Ambassadors to Japan the independent Republic of California has ever had, Sagawara advocates pursuing the grand Pacific Pact - a large-scale Pacific Rim trade and defense agreement.

-City Councillor Manuel Garcia - A member of the Los Angeles City Council representing a district heavy in retail, office space, and affluent businesspeople, Garcia, whose family has lived in California since before the Mexican War, is promoting an improved environment for business and development in the Republic of California's decaying urban centres.

Party of Deseret and the Golden Gates

-Senator William Brooks, jr. - A California Senator from a district representing a wide swath of rural, desert area of the formerly separate State of Nevada, and one of the current Quorum of Twelve and the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and the senior-ranking member of that church in the Republic of California, he is running for the nomination of the religious fundamentalist, even apocalyptic, political alliance known as the Party of Deseret and the Golden Gates.

-Rev. Jason Norman - The incredibly wealthy and highly exposed evangelical megachurch founder and leader of the California coastal area, the Golden Gates of Heaven Fellowship, is the other candidate for the nomination of the religious fundamentalist, even apocalyptic, political alliance known as the Party of Deseret and the Golden Gates, and the other half the party's leadership equation.

Partido del Alto California y Nevada

-Assemblywoman Juanita Delafuante - A labour union organizer, women's, youth's, and Hispanics' interests advocate, and former member of other socialist orgizations, she has won a seat in the California Assembly in a district in the "Los Angeles barrio" and now is running for the nomination of the first Presidential run of the Partido del California y Nevada.

-Major Antonio Suerez - A retired officer in the RCAF, Suerez became involved in the early Partido del Alto California y Nevada largely because of his working class family and friends. He is now running for the nomination for the party's first Presidential run.

-Mr. "Hector Samoza" - Hector Samoza is the assumed of alias of far-left-wing revolutionary and attempted insurgent leader Fernando Ribana, who was charged for treason and fled to various places in Latin America, and has now returned, with false, but convincing ID and plastic surgery, including altered fingerprints. Will cloak-and-dagger campaign gain any traction?

Nevada Independence Party

-Senator Roger Alans - A California Senator representing a very large rural, arid and mountainous electoral district covering the northern roughly third of the formerly separate State of Nevada, is running for the nomination for the first Presidential run of the new Nevada Independence Party, which seeks to politically disentangle Nevada from the Republic of California and become a sovereign nation.

-Ms. Ruth Lawrence - The owner of a large number of casinos, dude ranches, and other tourist traps typical of Nevada, she is running for the nomination for the first Presidential run of the new Nevada Independence Party, which seeks to politically disentangle Nevada from the Republic of California and become a sovereign nation, believing the regulation and taxes coming out of Sacramento are stifling the traditional lifestyle and income of the formerly separate State of Nevada.

-Nevada Land Management Commissioner David Jaresz - Holding the only remaining government office left constitutionally and administratively in the Republic of California that specifically has jurisdiction over the entirety of the formerly separate State of Nevada, but only over that jurisdiction, is a disparaging sign to him of just how little distinct political identity Nevada, which willingly joined with California in secession, still maintains in it's own right, and this has led him to co-found, and now run for the nomination for the first Presidential run of the new Nevada Independence Party, which seeks to politically disentangle Nevada from the Republic of California and become a sovereign nation.

-Mr. Kelvin Goldman - A rancher from a family of Nevada ranchers going back to the late 1800's with large land holdings, he's felt the new land laws from Sacramento since the creation of the Republic of California are worse for his lifestyle and ranching business than any that ever came out of Washington, D.C. regardless of which of the old parties was in power, and thus is running for the nomination for the first Presidential run of the new Nevada Independence Party, which seeks to politically disentangle Nevada from the Republic of California and become a sovereign nation.

-Assemblywoman Marsha Grey - Elected in a rural electoral district in the southern regions of the formerly separate State of Nevada, originally as an Independent who declared she was dedicated to serving her constituents' will over towing a party line, she's come to believe the will of her local constituents demands her to back, endorse, and now to run for the nomination for the first Presidential run of the new Nevada Independence Party, which seeks to politically disentangle Nevada from the Republic of California and become a sovereign nation.

Independent

-Mr. Robert Davison - A former musician, actor, and producer, and then a complete convert to the Church of Scientology, skyrocketing quickly to it's upper ranks, this Independent candidate, obviously a face for Scientology, is running a well-funded and promoted campaign.

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Looks good.  Also, I came up with another potential party idea.  There could be a nationalist party in Nevada wishing for its separation from California and the establishment of an independent country.

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On 26/5/2017 at 3:58 AM, Sunnymentoaddict said:

Exactly what I was looking for! I think you can divide Hispanics like this: first generation immigrants, and second and higher generation( at this point I'll think they'll think they are whites, much like by the 1960s Italians and Poles began to not view themselves as minorities).

Haha... "Think they are white"

I think i am a black bisexual (i send huge loads against both men and women) apache helicopter

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3 minutes ago, koneke said:

Haha... "Think they are white"

I think i am a black bisexual(i send huge loads against both men and women) apache helicopter

um what @Patine said is currently predicted by demographic modelers.

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22 hours ago, jvikings1 said:

Looks good.  Also, I came up with another potential party idea.  There could be a nationalist party in Nevada wishing for its separation from California and the establishment of an independent country.

That's a great idea! I've just updated my post above with some ideas for candidates.

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So the Pacific Rim party essentially a quasi Libertarian party that is primarily pro business, I'm curious what are the differences between that party and the Liberty party? I apologize if you have already disclosed that, and I haven't read that yet. I ask since the liberty candidates running on reducing land regulations might be in agreement with the Rim party's pro business platform.

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Just now, Sunnymentoaddict said:

@Patine

So the Pacific Rim party essentially a quasi Libertarian party that is primarily pro business, I'm curious what are the differences between that party and the Liberty party? I apologize if you have already disclosed that, and I haven't read that yet. I ask since the liberty candidates running on reducing land regulations might be in agreement with the Rim party's pro business platform.

The big difference is trade. The Pacific Rim favours free trade, outsourcing, foreign investment (both ways), big international pacts, and a "good for business image." The Pacific Liberty party is much more protectionist and big on private owner land rights and border security and limiting foreign workers and such, and thus has much more strength in the interior. Those are their biggest areas of disagreement.

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46 minutes ago, Sunnymentoaddict said:

I take it the Rim party has a bigger presence in the urban counties, and Liberty will be big in the Central Valley. 

 

Very realistic, love it. 

You could, if you will, compare it, though crudely, to the difference in trade policy between George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

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I like this. I'm all for scenarios that are completely fictional and have their own stories. I tried making one set on a different planet in 5644 a long time ago that I'm returning to now. Please keep working on this, can't wait to play it!

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Alright, resuming this thread. There are a number of issues for election (obviously :P ), which include the following:

-The Pacific Pact - a proposed trade and military alliance of significant proportions.

-NewPacTech (New Pacific Technical Institute) campus being built in San Francisco. In 2048, NewPacTech is a top-of-the line (one of the highest grades) of technical instruction and research facilities in the world in this fictitious future point. It is autonomous and trans-national, and, as of 2048, has campuses is Vancouver, Lima, Osaka, and Sydney, and the city Shanghai also eyes to host a campus.

-Mexico - Mexico, by 2048, has come under the governance of a general-turned-president named Juan C. Alvarez y Lopez, who has styled and declared himself as Emperor Juan Carlos I in the mold of Agustin I of the First Mexican Empire of 1821-1823, and has, with the social, economic, political, and military issues faced by the United States (including political fragmentation) taken advantage of the situation to build a very large military and, first, annex Central America, and start trying to menace the Republic of California, seeing it as a relatively easy target.

-Nevada Independence - While statistically a minority point of view in the region of the former state of Nevada going into the election, that sentiment may change over an electoral campaign.

-Land Rights - An area of solidarity for ranchers, farmers, mining rights holders, land leasers, and Native Americans from registered Tribes who claim their treaty lands under such inviolable rights, it is opposition to the arbitrary power of the government in Sacramento to levy land taxes, regulate land use, and claim eminent domain.

There are quite a few others being mulled over, but that's a start to give an idea where things are headed.

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18 minutes ago, Patine said:

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Alright, resuming this thread. There are a number of issues for election (obviously :P ), which include the following:

-The Pacific Pact - a proposed trade and military alliance of significant proportions.

-NewPacTech (New Pacific Technical Institute) campus being built in San Francisco. In 2048, NewPacTech is a top-of-the line (one of the highest grades) of technical instruction and research facilities in the world in this fictitious future point. It is autonomous and trans-national, and, as of 2048, has campuses is Vancouver, Lima, Osaka, and Sydney, and the city Shanghai also eyes to host a campus.

-Mexico - Mexico, by 2048, has come under the governance of a general-turned-president named Juan C. Alvarez y Lopez, who has styled and declared himself as Emperor Juan Carlos I in the mold of Agustin I of the First Mexican Empire of 1821-1823, and has, with the social, economic, political, and military issues faced by the United States (including political fragmentation) taken advantage of the situation to build a very large military and, first, annex Central America, and start trying to menace the Republic of California, seeing it as a relatively easy target.

-Nevada Independence - While statistically a minority point of view in the region of the former state of Nevada going into the election, that sentiment may change over an electoral campaign.

-Land Rights - An area of solidarity for ranchers, farmers, mining rights holders, land leasers, and Native Americans from registered Tribes who claim their treaty lands under such inviolable rights, it is opposition to the arbitrary power of the government in Sacramento to levy land taxes, regulate land use, and claim eminent domain.

There are quite a few others being mulled over, but that's a start to give an idea where things are headed.

Two things -- while California has a minority that wants independence when Republicans are presidents, Nevada, as far as I am aware, hasn't any independent movements in its history, as far as I'm aware. The other issues I have is with Mexico turning into a monarchy. I believe the trend is away from monarchies, at least in name. It would be better to have him styled as CEO of the Republic of Mexico for Life, or something like that. 

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2 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Two things -- while California has a minority that wants independence when Republicans are presidents, Nevada, as far as I am aware, hasn't any independent movements in its history, as far as I'm aware. The other issues I have is with Mexico turning into a monarchy. I believe the trend is away from monarchies, at least in name. It would be better to have him styled as CEO of the Republic of Mexico for Life, or something like that. 

In the backstory (note: creative license to a fair degree), the U.S. Presidency in either 2028 or 2032 (one of the two) is won by an incredibly-wealthy tycoon who plays on bipartisan divisions and dissatisfaction and failures to resolve fundamental problems by both main parties (essentially a second Ross Perot, but more charismatic, more eloquent in bringing out Democratic and Republican flaws, and more successful) with his Restoration Party. However, like would have been likely the case if Perot had won in the '90's, no one ends up happy with him anywhere down the political spectrum, but he plays Congress against itself in a Machiavellian divide-and-conquer to prevent an impeachment, and that's where the general "fragmentation" politically of the U.S. that I refer to gets started and moves pretty quickly.

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