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Alright, I was getting a bit bored with the standard rotes, and all these wild, off-the-wall, almost Robert Ludlumesque alternate histories on the Election Play-by-Play forums (although Ludlum uses fictitious character, up to and including world leaders), led me to renew my Fictitious Future series I had labelled New Dawn which my three attempts at fictitious 2020 scenarios (and a bunch of others, as well) were supposed to lead up to, but I thought I'd skip to a point I had planned where the geographical, political, economic, and otherwise known map of the world has changed significantly. A number of scenarios are planned in and around the year 2048 (in places where meaningful elections are relevant in this set-up), and all candidates, endorsers, and most political institutions like parties, NGO's, organizations, lobby groups, and other such affiliations are either fictitious are extrapolated by creative license from ones existing today.

The first scenario (to test the waters) is the Republic of California, which, along with Nevada, broke away from the US as it was at the time (I'm still fuzzy on the exact year and precise reasons), and still has an economy dominated by media and other entertainment and vice (much like today, between the two modern states). The dominant (but not only) political attitude is economically liberal with strong support for ecological policies, pro-free trade, military non-interventionism and non-adventurism, and a hybrid of social liberalism and libertarianism (again, this isn't the only political attitude). The current draft of parties (the candidates still need to be created) is:

-New California Progressive Party - the incumbent party and the political embodiment (for the most part) of the above political attitude.

-Pacific Liberty Party - an almost purely libertarian-style party.

-Pacific Rim Economist Party - a fiscally conservative, pro-corporatist party that has had a joint ticket and legislative alliance with the Pacific Liberty Party in the past, and is generally on friendly terms, even though their platforms are not identical.

-Party of Deseret and the Golden Gates - A West Coast Evangelical Christian and LDS (Mormon) joint fundamentalist party.

-Partido del Alto California y Nevada - Hispanic/Latino-dominated party, generally the farthest left-leaning, with a number of Castroist, Chavezist, Morelosist, and Sandinista philosophies tucked into their platform, amongst more moderate items.

-An Independent backed unofficially, but in public knowledge, by the Church of Scientology.

This is what I have so far. More to come. Any comments or constructive criticism welcome.

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

Alright, I was getting a bit bored with the standard rotes, and all these wild, off-the-wall, almost Robert Ludlumesque alternate histories on the Election Play-by-Play forums (although Ludlum uses fictitious character, up to and including world leaders), led me to renew my Fictitious Future series I had labelled New Dawn which my three attempts at fictitious 2020 scenarios (and a bunch of others, as well) were supposed to lead up to, but I thought I'd skip to a point I had planned where the geographical, political, economic, and otherwise known map of the world has changed significantly. A number of scenarios are planned in and around the year 2048 (in places where meaningful elections are relevant in this set-up), and all candidates, endorsers, and most political institutions like parties, NGO's, organizations, lobby groups, and other such affiliations are either fictitious are extrapolated by creative license from ones existing today.

The first scenario (to test the waters) is the Republic of California, which, along with Nevada, broke away from the US as it was at the time (I'm still fuzzy on the exact year and precise reasons), and still has an economy dominated by media and other entertainment and vice (much like today, between the two modern states). The dominant (but not only) political attitude is economically liberal with strong support for ecological policies, pro-free trade, military non-interventionism and non-adventurism, and a hybrid of social liberalism and libertarianism (again, this isn't the only political attitude). The current draft of parties (the candidates still need to be created) is:

-New California Progressive Party - the incumbent party and the political embodiment (for the most part) of the above political attitude.

-Pacific Liberty Party - an almost purely libertarian-style party.

-Pacific Rim Economist - a fiscally conservative, pro-corporatist party that has had a joint ticket and legislative alliance with the Pacific Liberty Party in the past, and is generally on friendly terms, even though their platforms are not identical.

-Party of Deseret and the Golden Gates - A West Coast Evangelical Christian and LDS (Mormon) joint fundamentalist party.

-Partido del Alto California y Nevada - Hispanic/Latino-dominated party, generally the farthest left-leaning, with a number of Castroist, Chavezist, Morelosist, and Sandinista philosophies tucked into their platform, amongst more moderate items.

-An Independent backed unofficially, but in public knowledge, by the Church of Scientology.

This is what I have so far. More to come. Any comments or constructive criticism welcome.

maybe a california exit.Make a referendum scenario beforehand maybe?

reasons

-donald trump

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13 minutes ago, republicaninnyc said:

maybe a california exit.Make a referendum scenario beforehand maybe?

reasons

-donald trump

I'm afraid I'm not a big fan of making referendum scenarios, myself. Also, this scenarios (and my other planned scenarios in this series) are set 31 years in a fictitious future when California secession (and a LOT of other events) are already fait accompli.

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53 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

I would imagine there would probably be a Green party equivalent in the Republic of California.

The New California Progressive Party already supports a significant array of ecological economic planks. A Green Party would only be running on the very fringe extreme aspects of Green policy. Though, it may still be considered.

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36 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

Perhaps a party that is in favor of rejoining the US?

Ah, a good point, except I haven't yet gotten to the fate of the rest of the US (or the world as a whole) by the time of this fictitious future. It's been about as tumultuous (if not as bloody and with as high a body count) in this imagined 31-year interval of fictitious time as the 31-year period between 1914-1945. This scenario is only the start. Stay tuned...

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3 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

I think this would be an interesting scenario.

Will there be a possibility for independent candidates?

Well, I mentioned there will be at least one, whose endorsed by (and a full, high-ranking member of) the Church of Scientology. There's of course the possibility of others.

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Several updates here:

1. I plan that the Republic of California will have a unitary, not federal, system of division of powers between the national and regional level, and there will be no artificially-drawn or created level of governance between the national government and the counties that previously existed in California and Nevada, nor will those counties enjoy the guaranteed rights and jurisdictions of a U.S. State, but instead what is typical of a county government within a U.S. State. It thus probably goes without saying that this election will be based on popular vote, not any sort of recreated Electoral College.

2. @jvikings had asked about Independents, and other than the one idea for one I had mentioned, the area is absolutely rife with individuals with large, public profiles, strong opinions, and enough money to self-fund campaigns, such as celebrities and business owners (notably in the fields of electronics, media, and the casino industries), so such a concept(s) is certainly easy to come up with.

3. Advanced and experimental forms of energy and geological engineering to attempt to bring reliable agriculture to many arid areas have led to disputes by some if they're "ecologically-sound" or "ecologically-disruptive in the long-term" and others on the other wing who question if they're worth the immense and if they'll pay off.

4. Despite a strong support among most political groups in the Republic of California against military interventionism and a bloated defense budget (which has led to serious cuts and a trimming to strong, professional, but defensively-geared military force, Mexico, to the south, has recently (in this timeline) come under a militant, expansionist, populist leader who has formally proclaimed a "Third Mexican Empire" and himself as Emperor Juan Carlos I, and believes California maybe an easy target.

More to come...

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On 5/2/2017 at 9:28 PM, Patine said:

I'd especially like to hear if @jvikings1 and/or @vcczar have any comments or criticisms on this. That's not, of course, to exclude anyone, as any comments or constructive criticism is more than welcome.

I'll have to see how it looks when you've created your first draft. My interest level for a California 2048 scenario isn't remarkably high. I'd be more interest in a 2048 US election. 

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47 minutes ago, vcczar said:

I'll have to see how it looks when you've created your first draft. My interest level for a California 2048 scenario isn't remarkably high. I'd be more interest in a 2048 US election. 

I have set up the plan that, by 2048, due to a number of factors (a succession of several, both conservative reactionary, liberal "authoritarian" (as the term is often applied by Libertarians), and the disastrous "compromise" administrations of the two Restoration Party Presidents in the 31 year span between now and this fictitious future, the global depression caused by the Petroleum Market Crash, and other fictional future events), secession has been accomplished by more than the States of California an Nevada, but, in the other cases, only in much larger, federalized groups. The Western Federation, which contains the States of Washington, Oregon, Alaska, the Great Plains and Rocky Mountains States, and Wisconsin, and joined at formation by the four Western Canadian Provinces and two western-most Canadian Territories, originally formed as a federalized grouping of convenience due to mutual general dissatisfaction with the governments on Washington, D.C. and Ottawa, end up with strongly polarized Progressive, Green-Ecological, Libertarian, Agrarian-Conservative, Corporatist, and Indigenous Rights political factions (those aren't necessarily the party names - those haven't been finalized), vying for power. A secession in the Deep South avoids political faux pas of reprising the name, flag, of the Confederate States of America, but keep the same initials - branding themselves the Christian States of America, whose Constitution declares all legal political parties "must observe Christian doctrine and ethics," (the social and fiscal liberals and social democrats in those states cleverly get around this restriction by digging up and rebranding the little-known and long-dormant "Christian Socialist" movement of the very early 20th Century). The nation still called the United States and using it's symbols, and effectively it's direct (if reduced successor) has all the Mid-Atlantic, New England, and Midwest States (except Wisconsin and Iowa), as well as having been joined by Ontario and the Maritime Provinces in what left of the Canadian Confederation. Quebec and Nunavut have become their own independent republics. I'm not sure what to do about the standing fate of Utah, Oklahoma, New Mexico, or Arizona. That's a brief tentative layout geopolitically of the successor states to the U.S. and Canada collectively (except Hawaii, which at this point is a different story). And, just so my intentions are clear, this isn't a prediction or extrapolation, or hard realistic prognosis - there is quite a bit of creative licence taken across the board...

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So I notice my last description and expansion of what I have in mind here (in the post right above) didn't get immediate commentary (and I haven't yet gotten into the other continents), and I thought maybe it's just two off the deep end and over the top - then I read those endless threads in the Election Play-by-Play subforum and thought, "nah, that can't be the reason."  So, assuming it was just lost in the shuffle, does anyone have any comments or constructive criticism at this point?

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

 

So I notice my last description and expansion of what I have in mind here (in the post right above) didn't get immediate commentary (and I haven't yet gotten into the other continents), and I thought maybe it's just two off the deep end and over the top - then I read those endless threads in the Election Play-by-Play subforum and thought, "nah, that can't be the reason." :P So, assuming it was just lost in the shuffle, does anyone have any comments or constructive criticism at this point?

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No, however I am certainly looking forward to any new scenarios!

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Just now, Reagan04 said:

No, however I am certainly looking forward to any new scenarios!

well I have plans to make a few over the next few months

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I like the idea.  Once there are some more details, it will be easier to give more feedback and such.  Additionally, I would like to see more than just California.  It would be interesting to see what is going on in the other regions.

You might want to think about having a party that is trying to take former territory of the US and Canada with the goal of forming a North American empire, of sorts.  If you do decide to make other regions, it could be a movement across the different regions to unify.

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2 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

I like the idea.  Once there are some more details, it will be easier to give more feedback and such.  Additionally, I would like to see more than just California.  It would be interesting to see what is going on in the other regions.

You might want to think about having a party that is trying to take former territory of the US and Canada with the goal of forming a North American empire, of sorts.  If you do decide to make other regions, it could be a movement across the different regions to unify.

I am planning other scenarios, as I implied - California is just a starting point. Also, Europe and some parts of Latin America, Oceania, and Asia will also be covered (assuming I don't eventually get bored of it). A little teaser on Europe in this fictional future, especially as it's a subject you often bring up, there's no standing EU as an organization as of the 2048 mark in this hypothetical timeline.

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34 minutes ago, Sunnymentoaddict said:

@Patine

 

What are the demographics and sectors of the economy?  (If you've played Victoria 2, think something along those lines in demographics).

I haven't played Victoria 2, but I'd say, roughly, the biggest demographic groups would be:

-Affluent Coastal Whites

-Middle Class Coastal Whites

-Working Class Coastal Whites

-Silicon Valley Whites (a distinct group)

-Interior and Northern Whites

-Asians

-Affluent Blacks

-Middle and Working Class Blacks

-Poor Blacks

-Hispanics (not sure how to subdivide them)

-Pacific Islanders

-Native Americans

-Middle-Eastern

Mix that with the main religious (and non-religious) groups, sexual orientations, gender, etc., and you've got your general blocks.

The economy of the Republic of California is based strongly on software and media production (of which it's among the five nations producing the biggest output thereof in the world in 2048) and is also a leader in the development of ecological technologies. Most other economic sectors are in support of that or the actual governance of the nation or a significant drop from them in terms of fiscal output.

That's a very rough outline.

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@Patine

I just haven't given 2048 politics in California enough thought to give any sort of comment. I may have some ideas once I can see a rough draft of the scenario with all the issues, candidates, events, etc. I can give comments then. Good luck with the scenario. 

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