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5 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

I was referring to a hypothetical country that could function effectively without immigration.  I that instance, greatly restricting or stopping immigration wouldn't be far right.

Fair enough

4 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

Sounds good to me. What political party would you be?

Begrudgingly Democratic because 1) third parties can't win with the electoral college in place and 2) I would be able to fix the party if I got the nomination, ostensibly

(though I find it annoying that every single time you say you want to go into politics, people automatically assume you want to run for President. I happen to want to if I'm able to realistically do so, but I don't expect to, and when people ask me that I feel like they're writing me off as naive)

3 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

My dream job is US Senator from Kentucky.  But, if I had the opportunity to be Secretary of State, then I would take it.

Fischer/Lagsalott vs. Jvikings/Reagan04 in 2040 :P

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Fischer said:

Fair enough

Begrudgingly Democratic because 1) third parties can't win with the electoral college in place and 2) I would be able to fix the party if I got the nomination, ostensibly

Fischer/Lagsalott vs. Jvikings/Reagan04 in 2040 :P

I agree it's very difficult to escape the two party system right now. But with incumbent independent/third party governors or senators running on the same ticket? I think that would be a big deal. Should I make a scenario for this?

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4 minutes ago, Bruce Fischer said:

(though I find it annoying that every single time you say you want to go into politics, people automatically assume you want to run for President. I happen to want to if I'm able to realistically do so, but I don't expect to, and when people ask me that I feel like they're writing me off as naive)

Fischer/Lagsalott vs. Jvikings/Reagan04 in 2040 :P

I find that as well.  At this time, I am not really thinking about running for President in the future.  If the opportunity presents itself, then maybe, but I need to create that opportunity first.

I am probably too much towards the Libertarian side to be on a ticket with Reagan04.

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1 minute ago, jvikings1 said:

I find that as well.  At this time, I am not really thinking about running for President in the future.  If the opportunity presents itself, then maybe, but I need to create that opportunity first.

I am probably too much towards the Libertarian side to be on a ticket with Reagan04.

We must coordinate a forum-wide effort to find your Political MatchTM.

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1 minute ago, SirLagsalott said:

We must coordinate a forum-wide effort to find your Political MatchTM.

That would be pretty funny to see.  I would recommend isidewith.

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5 hours ago, jvikings1 said:

Being against immigration doesn't necessarily make someone far right.  If a nation can sustain itself while having very low or no immigration, then that country would probably institute policies that greatly restrict immigration which would benefit the workers in that country.

Robert Fisco for example.

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2 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

What does this mean? I assume it's a person but definitely non-notable judging by Google search results...?

I am wondering the same thing as I also attempted to Google it.

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6 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

What does this mean? I assume it's a person but definitely non-notable judging by Google search results...?

He is the prime minister of Slovakia he is a part of a a socialist party but is far right on immigration. 

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20 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

We must coordinate a forum-wide effort to find your Political MatchTM.

Yes

I know LokiLoki22 and I are pretty ideologically similar and now you can join us in the new Holy Trinity of social liberalism/fiscal responsibility

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1 minute ago, Bruce Fischer said:

Yes

I know LokiLoki22 and I are pretty ideologically similar and now you can join us in the new Holy Trinity of social liberalism/fiscal responsibility

Is there an initiation ritual?

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20 hours ago, Bruce Fischer said:

Yes, extreme immigration measures and a distaste for and/or fear of the outside world (xenophobia) is typically associated with far-right politics.

But a far left economic stance pulls her closer to the ideological centre.

An authoritian at most. This is true for most far-right parties and its because Marine's dad was a huge ultraliberal when it came to economics.

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4 minutes ago, wolves said:

But a far left economic stance pulls her closer to the ideological centre.

An authoritian at most. This is true for most far-right parties and its because Marine's dad was a huge ultraliberal when it came to economics.

That is why the left-right spectrum is flawed.  Another example is Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.

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Just now, jvikings1 said:

That is why the left-right spectrum is flawed.  Another example is Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.

Yep. The guy who made the political compass test himself said that Le Pen is wrongly branded as far right and it placed her on the left economically but very far up on the authoritian scale.

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53 minutes ago, SirLagsalott said:

http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/3144224272

Bleh. I haven't filled out all the questions yet but I definitely wouldn't have voted for Clinton. (Maybe it's because I normally picked options more specific than "Yes/No"?)

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"You side strongly with Socialism" well you learn something new every day...

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3 hours ago, Bruce Fischer said:

I'm not old enough either. I live in the state directly north of you, I'd like to run for state Senate and then either Governor of Maryland or the Senate. I probably wouldn't want to be in the House of Representatives since there are elections every 2 years, I don't feel like I would be able to get anything done.

My dream job is US Secretary of State, but that's not a job you can be elected to, obviously.

Plus as Secretary of State I could have an even better jumping-off point for a presidential campaign, maybe you could be my running mate. :P Fischer/Lagsalott 2040?

Maybe in a couple of decades, @Reagan04 and you can be opponents in a REALLY heated race... :P

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3 hours ago, SirLagsalott said:

I agree it's very difficult to escape the two party system right now. But with incumbent independent/third party governors or senators running on the same ticket? I think that would be a big deal. Should I make a scenario for this?

Political parties are one of the worst poisons of good governance, no matter what country or other polity you're in...

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18 minutes ago, Patine said:

Maybe in a couple of decades, @Reagan04 and you can be opponents in a REALLY heated race... :P

Hey, I'm planning on leaving my state when I can and running for office, I am actually filing for 2018 as a joke though.

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1 hour ago, Reagan04 said:

Hey, I'm planning on leaving my state when I can and running for office, I am actually filing for 2018 as a joke though.

Which state are you thinking about moving to?

Also, where are you thinking you will go to college, when that comes around?

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2 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

Hey, I'm planning on leaving my state when I can and running for office, I am actually filing for 2018 as a joke though.

We can switch states. You can take deep red Tennessee, and I'll take Maryland... :P 

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3 hours ago, Reagan04 said:

Hey, I'm planning on leaving my state when I can and running for office, I am actually filing for 2018 as a joke though.

move to NYC and try to win a U.S house election as a republican in NY-15,If you're not up to that challenge try NY-13 or NY-9:P

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Let's say Southerners were fleeing the South to come to Europe, would we see the Left come out in massive numbers and say refugees welcome? It is a hypothetical question but it is an interesting thought. The Left is tolerant of those who hate the White Christian males. Immigration from the Third World will change Europe, which is enough of a reason to be against it. I don't see how preserving your civilization and way of life is far-right or xenophobic. That is not dehumanising anyone, but rather shows healthy signs of self-preservation and pride. I can tell you that if you keep telling people that it is far-right, people will flock to the far-right and it won't be happy for you leftists.

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