booth088 0 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Decided I am going to get in on the barrage of individuals creating 2020 campaigns. First off, this campaign won't have events. It's a future campaign so we won't know what events will take place in the future. The events were designed to be external and not internal events to the campaign. That's my main issue with how some people have been incorperating events into 2020, 2016, and other campaigns. Here are the candidates I have thus far: GOP: Pres. Trump Sen. Cruz Gov. Kasich Sen. Paul Sen. Ernst Dem: Sen. Klobuchar Sen. Booker Sen. Harris Gov. Bullock Sec. Castro Sen. Heinrich Sen. Gillibrand Rep. Kennedy Sen. Warren (Off) VP Biden (Off) Sen Sanders (Off) Gov O'Malley (Off) Sec Clinton (Off) For now I am not touching the Libertarian & Green tickets. I am leaving McMullin as an independent option for now. I deleted Bloomberg. I intend to add (I am focusing on Democrats since their primary, at the moment, looks like it will be much more open than the Republican side might be): Sen. Murphy Sen. Masto Sen. Duckworth Rep. Gabbard Sec. Kander Quote Link to post Share on other sites
booth088 0 Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Some of the surrogate highlights: Added Secretary of State Rex Tillerson Republicans hold on to a couple difficult Governorships in Maryland and Vermont while losing several others in New Mexico, Nevada, New Jersey, Illinois, Maine, Michigan and Florida. They hold on to the rest of their seats. Democrats counter with the above-mentioned gains and hold on to Louisiana. Same way GOP holds onto Maryland and Vermont= unless something gets thrown in, those candidates are fairly popular/moderate and basically scandal free. Democrats fall short in some competitive-ish states like Georgia, Arizona, Texas, new Hampshire, Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa. They hold on to Minnesota, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Virginia, California, etc. In the Senate, the GOP holds a 52-48 majority. Republicans manage to pick off the Indiana Senate Seat while falling short in North Dakota, Missouri, West Virginia & Montana. Democrats pick off the seat in Nevada while falling short in Arizona and everywhere else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
booth088 0 Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Posted 1.2 http://campaigns.270soft.com/2017/01/06/united-states-2020-v-1-0/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LokiLoki22 0 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Add Jimmy Carter...... His experience would at least be a five..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, LokiLoki22 said: Add Jimmy Carter...... His experience would at least be a five..... But his Stamina would be a 1! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayavarman 130 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Governor Andrew Cuomo (NY) Governor Gina Raimondo (RI) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
booth088 0 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 For the sake of being economical with space, I am moving the change-log to here: V 1.7.1 Sen. David Vitter -> Sen. John Neely Kennedy V 1.7 This version adds a newspaper of record as an endorser for every state that didn't already have one in the game (Iowa and New York). This adds a total of 48 new endorsers. V 1.6.1 New Democratic Debate- 04/16/2020 Trump's VP is now always Pence V 1.6 New Candidates -Democrats Fmr. Gov. Lincoln Chafee New VP's-Democrats Gov. Roy Cooper Gov. John Bel Edwards Fmr. Sec. Tom Perez Sen. Tammy Duckworth Howard Schultz New Indepenmdent Candidate Kanye West VP-Scott Disick Election Night Changes (These should make election night a tad more realistic and let the west start reporting before final numbers are in everywhere else.) Time after poll close to last numbers: 180 -> 240 Update intervals: 10 -> 5 V 1.5.2 Added New GOP Candidates Sen. Tom Cotton Sen. Ben Sasse Dwayne Johnson Added New Green Candidate Winona LaDuke V 1.5.1 Added New Candidates for Democrats Fmr. Sec. Jason Kander Sen. Al Franken Added New VP's for Democrats Sen. Tammy Baldwin Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto Sen. Maggie Hassan Added new Libertarian candidate Adam Kokesh (first declared 2020 Libertarian candidate at this point) New Interviewers added Hannity Tucker Carlson Tonight Anderson Cooper 360 The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell All in with Chris Hayes V 1.4 Changed dates of debates and primaries/caucuses to be on the same day of the week they were in 2015/2016. Since we don't know the dates for these events yet in 2019/2020, they are now at least on appropriate days of the week. (i.e. Super Tuesday is now on a Tuesday as it should be) Minnesota: Caucus -> Primary added "Fmr." to surrogates John Kerry Joe Biden Hillary Clinton Barack Obama PIP Costs 1 -> 0 Barack Obama Lasts for 5 days -> 10 days Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Bill Clinton New Endorsers Fmr. VP Walter Mondale (he begins as a surrogate for Sen. Amy Klobuchar if she is set to "on") Fmr. VP Dan Quayle Fmr. Sen Bob Dole Spkr. Paul Ryan Minority Ldr. Nancy Pelosi Added surrogate "Fmr. Amb. Caroline Kennedy" for candidate Joseph P. Kennedy V 1.3.2 Endorser Joeseph P. Kennedy -> Joseph P. Kennedy The endorser screen issue should now be fixed. I have been unable to recreate it again after a few tweaks. Changed a few %'s Added a bunch of new interviewers. It bothered me that it was easy to be interviewed on the same show more than once in a day; this makes that less likely & more realistic. On the Record With Greta Van Susteren -> For the Record With Greta Van Susteren Today's Take With Megyn Kelly 60 Minutes Morning Joe Late Night With Seth Meyers The Late Late Show With James Corden The Daily Show With Trevor Noah The Lead With Jake Tapper V 1.3.1 Fixed issue with 3 of the candidates not being available as VP's for most of the candidates on the Democratic side V 1.3 Added two new Democratic candidates: Tulsi Gabbard and Chris Murphy V 1.2 Surrogate Bill Clinton - PIP Cost 1 -> 0 Hillary Clinton endorsement now produces surrogate "Hillary Clinton" and not a duplicate "Bill Clinton" (This may or may not fix Milo's reported error message with the endorsement screen) Cruz & Kasich are now set to "on" A couple minor changes to a few percentages. (CA, NY, LA, OR, WA, AL & KY) V 1.1 Harry Reid -> Catherine Cortez Masto V 1.0 I "roughed" through a first draft to see what I get. There is a ton of changes that will be made, but I wanted to get out what I have thus far. For the 2018 mid-terms, I have Democrats losing Indiana and Republicans losing Nevada. All of the other competitive races I left with the incumbent. I replaced those elected officials that are likely to join the Trump administration. All endorsers are at least possibilities. Example, Minnesota's Governor in the game is (current state Auditor) Rebecca Otto and Georgia's Governor in the game is (current Lieutenant Governor) Casey Cagle. The current general election numbers are similar to 2016. I will need to make further changes, but this is where it will begin. I didn't touch the third party candidates yet. McMullin is still in there, but I deleted Bloomberg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Please remove Bernie from your scenario... he shall not be encouraged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Socialist Bernie said: Please remove Bernie from your scenario... he shall not be encouraged Obviously another person in the modern day who has no idea whatsoever what Communism REALY is. How is such lack of real education, knowledge, and understandable of what the Communist philosophy was and what was a Communist government was actually like (this lack demonstrated CLEARLY by the large numbers of people on the Internet calling most modern members of the US Democratic Party the governments of countries like Canada, New Zealand and many Western and Northern European countries actually Communist with a straight face and solid confidence) only 15 years after the end of the Cold War actually become so entrenched in certain groups of people? It's a shameful blight on any accurate record of political history, science, and analysis, and on a chunk of collective knowledge and education. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Patine said: Obviously another person in the modern day who has no idea whatsoever what Communism REALY is. How is such lack of real education, knowledge, and understandable of what the Communist philosophy was and what was a Communist government was actually like (this lack demonstrated CLEARLY by the large numbers of people on the Internet calling most modern members of the US Democratic Party the governments of countries like Canada, New Zealand and many Western and Northern European countries actually Communist with a straight face and solid confidence) only 15 years after the Cold War actually become so entrenched in certain groups of people? It's a shameful blight on any accurate record of political history, science, and analysis, and on a chunk of collective knowledge and education. Bernie is no Democrap he is a Independant Socialist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 He has openly called for a revolution, wants to redistribute wealth, kill capitalism, kill the wealthy, and kill America's values Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Socialist Bernie said: He has openly called for a revolution, wants to redistribute wealth, kill capitalism, kill the wealthy, and kill America's values Perhaps, but what about those countries on your list (except China)? And, when you say 'America's values,' are you referring to ideals from the 18th Century which you believe are unchangeable and that later generations have no right to change or adjust and must live under regardless of the popular opinion or views of the majority of Americans at any given, or are you referring to the values held by the popular majority of Americans of a given point in time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Patine said: Perhaps, but what about those countries on your list (except China)? And, when you say 'America's values,' are you referring to ideals from the 18th Century which you believe are unchangeable and that later generations have no right to change or adjust and must live under regardless of the popular opinion or views of the majority of Americans at any given, or are you referring to the values held by the popular majority of Americans of a given point in time? Socialism does not work name one country where it has worked, and why America should become full Socialist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Socialist Bernie said: Socialism does not work name one country where it has worked, and why America should become full Socialist I said Communism, as the sickle-and-hammer is the symbol of SPECIFCIALLY Communism, not just general Socialism across the board, and the uniform Sanders is portrayed in is SPECIFCIALLY a Red Army uniform. There are varying degrees of non-liberal, non-radical left-wing politics often called the "socialist sub-stratum," Communism is the most extreme and superlative of them by far - most others are much more moderate, conciliatory, and functional within a currency-based representative constitutional government system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, Patine said: There are varying degrees of non-liberal, non-radical left-wing politics often called the "socialist sub-stratum," Communism is the most extreme and superlative of them by far - most others are much more moderate, conciliatory, and functional within a currency-based representative constitutional government system. Socialism/Communism Who cares he's not American it is frightening he got close to winning the nomination shows you how many young whiny brainwashed voters there are in this country they don't have a clue how dangerous his ideas are Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Socialist Bernie said: Socialism/Communism Who cares he's not American it is frightening he got close to winning the nomination shows you how many young whiny brainwashed voters there are in this country they don't have a clue how dangerous his ideas are He has American citizenship and so does everyone who voted for him. You obviously have an outdated, inflexible, and supposedly unchanging (regardless of the views of later generations) view of what is American. I remind you, the United States has a Bill of Rights guaranteeing freedom to peacefully dissent from the majority viewpoint, or even perceived 'tradition,' on matters of religion, creed, and conscience, and to openly speak and publish such ideas, and not explicitly forbidden to pursue them in the political area, be it local, state, or federal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Patine said: He has American citizenship and so does everyone who voted for him. You obviously have an outdated, inflexible, and supposedly unchanging (regardless of the views of later generations) view of what is American. I remind you, the United States has a Bill of Rights guaranteeing freedom to peacefully dissent from the majority viewpoint, or even perceived 'tradition,' on matters of religion, creed, and conscience, and to openly speak and publish such ideas, and not explicitly forbidden to pursue them in the political area, be it local, state, or federal. The Guarantee Clause of the US Constitution--Article 4, Section 4, Clause 1: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government," Now the Constitution does not say exactly what a Republican form of Government is but it can be found in the Federalist papers, and many other writings by the founding fathers and is NOT Socialism But we did it to the extreme unlike any republican government before or since--all citizens equal under the law and collectively sovereign. Popular sovereignty is inconsistent with any form of socialism. Natural and legal rights are likewise antithetical to socialism. We either need to get serious again about republican government or not be surprised to wake up some day soon and see the most powerful guarantee ever made to any people on the planet lying trampled in the dust Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Socialist Bernie said: The Guarantee Clause of the US Constitution--Article 4, Section 4, Clause 1: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government," Now the Constitution does not say exactly what a Republican form of Government is but it can be found in the Federalist papers, and many other writings by the founding fathers and is NOT Socialism But we did it to the extreme unlike any republican government before or since--all citizens equal under the law and collectively sovereign. Popular sovereignty is inconsistent with any form of socialism. Natural and legal rights are likewise antithetical to socialism. We either need to get serious again about republican government or not be surprised to wake up some day soon and see the most powerful guarantee ever made to any people on the planet lying trampled in the dust The word 'Republic' comes from 'Res Publica,' a mistranslation from Ancient Greek to Latin of a book by Plato by Marcus Arenicus, a Roman general, statesmen, and one of the founders of the first nation in all of history to call itself a Republic, the Roman Republic. Since then, many nations have called themselves republics and defined them in different ways, in fact a bewildering spectacle of ways. Virtually every nation that was not overtly monarchial, theocratic (and even some exceptions there, like Iran and the English Protectorate under Oliver Cromwell), and the Fascist nations of the 1930's and 1940's have usually termed themselves 'republics,' including EVERY SINGLE state calling itself Socialist and Communist. Also, the Federalist Paper are NOT constitutionally binding - thus only the word 'republic,' used in a reasonable sense (which includes self-identification of the vast majority of countries in the world today as a reference, spanning many forms of government) - is ALL that's actually constitutionally BINDING in that clause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vcczar 1,227 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 @admin_270 I think "Socialist Bernie" might be a troll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 @Patine Back to the earlier point about Bernie Sanders being Communist, Vladimir Lenin said about Socialism "Communism is the objective of socialism." We should be very worried about people like Bernie and everything that he stands for One of the basic Founding Principles of America is to embrace the idea of individual freedom, whereas the idea of Socialism embraces an idea that the individual is defined by the state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Socialist Bernie said: @Patine Back to the earlier point about Bernie Sanders being Communist, Vladimir Lenin said about Socialism "Communism is the objective of socialism." We should be very worried about people like Bernie and everything that he stands for One of the basic Founding Principles of America is to embrace the idea of individual freedom, whereas the idea of Socialism embraces an idea that the individual is defined by the state. Inflexible tradition, enforced values of older times in eras where they're no longer fully workable or appropriate, rights decided by an establishments agreement with their aims and beliefs instead of the broad guarantees as written, and a broken, decrepit political framework that cannot or will not be fixed because the original mechanisms to do so have become unworkable due to socio-political deadlock must also be greatly worried about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Patine said: Inflexible tradition, enforced values of older times in eras where they're no longer fully workable or appropriate, rights decided by an establishments agreement with their aims and beliefs instead of the broad guarantees as written, and a broken, decrepit political framework that cannot or will not be fixed because the original mechanisms to do so have become unworkable due to socio-political deadlock must also be greatly worried about. Capitalism may not be perfect but it is FAR better then Socialism Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 513 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Socialist Bernie said: Capitalism may not be perfect but it is FAR better then Socialism Yes, you've got to love mega-corporations and incredibly wealthy special interest groups practically buying and selling elections like they were shares on the stock market, effectively marginalizing the actual constituents of those being elected. It makes you feel good to know just how much your vote counts... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LokiLoki22 0 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 On 1/19/2017 at 2:22 PM, Socialist Bernie said: Socialism does not work name one country where it has worked, and why America should become full Socialist Norway. (Running a surplus) Iceland (Socialism partially implemented to deal with crash) Sweden and Denmark (Running a small deficit, smaller that ours by %GDP). It doesn't work on large scale due to the organization required. On state or smaller nations' scales, however, it is much more practical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist Bernie 0 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 16 hours ago, LokiLoki22 said: Norway. (Running a surplus) Iceland (Socialism partially implemented to deal with crash) Sweden and Denmark (Running a small deficit, smaller that ours by %GDP). It doesn't work on large scale due to the organization required. On state or smaller nations' scales, however, it is much more practical. There is a great article on Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland all the Nordic looking beings here http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/11/scandinavia-isnt-a-socialist-paradise/ I recommend you and anybody else check out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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