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@Reagan04

If I were a Conservative, I wouldn't call it heart-wrenching. I'd consider it a major break through, since Goldwater's the first true conservative nominee since Coolidge. It sort of allowed for Reagan to happen in the first place. To me, it would be like the Republican's Bernie Sanders moment, but on a larger scale. I think Sanders's relative successes in the Democratic primary will make Democratic Socialism (not Communism or Authoritarian Socialism) more mainstream as an idea. Goldwater did the same thing in 1964, but with more success. Goldwater was really an extreme version of Robert Taft, who was a Coolidge conservative. Likewise, I think Sarah Palin made Trump possible. 

@CalebsParadox

Yes, but it isn't very complete. 

 

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Update: I've now done everything I plan to do for the first release of 1964, except for the endorsers. 

@TheMiddlePolitical

After 1964, I plan on doing 1976, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, unless someone else creates one of these very completely. If Anthony doesn't release favorability by the time I'm done with these, I'll probably make my version of 1968 and 1972, which will really just be fine-tuned version of those scenarios that already exist. I found typos, incomplete endorsers, and I disagree with the political stances and abilities for some of the candidates. The 1972 scenario needs a 3rd party or observation party for sure. Additionally, the 1972 scenario map starts with the historical results. I think the Democrats should be polling much better than the historical result. 

For instance, I gave Republicans a 5 to 10% boost on almost every single state for the 1964 scenario, since a Rockefeller nomination would have probably resulted in a much closer match than a Goldwater nomination. 

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7 hours ago, vcczar said:

Update: I've now done everything I plan to do for the first release of 1964, except for the endorsers.

@TheMiddlePolitical

After 1964, I plan on doing 1976, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, unless someone else creates one of these very completely. If Anthony doesn't release favorability by the time I'm done with these, I'll probably make my version of 1968 and 1972, which will really just be fine-tuned version of those scenarios that already exist. I found typos, incomplete endorsers, and I disagree with the political stances and abilities for some of the candidates. The 1972 scenario needs a 3rd party or observation party for sure. Additionally, the 1972 scenario map starts with the historical results. I think the Democrats should be polling much better than the historical result.

For instance, I gave Republicans a 5 to 10% boost on almost every single state for the 1964 scenario, since a Rockefeller nomination would have probably resulted in a much closer match than a Goldwater nomination.

Will Miller's (if he ends up being taped as VP in a game) obscurity be worked into the game mechanics somehow? Remember the election-era phrase, "Here's a riddle, and it's a killer. Who the Hell is William Miller?" While Johnson and RFK both certainly knew who he was, most other people apparently didn't.

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1 hour ago, Patine said:

Will Miller's (if he ends up being taped as VP in a game) obscurity be worked into the game mechanics somehow? Remember the election-era phrase, "Here's a riddle, and it's a killer. Who the Hell is William Miller?" While Johnson and RFK both certainly knew who he was, most other people apparently didn't.

I made his charisma and experience a 2. I think that's about as much as I'll deflate him, since Goldwater will be at such a disadvantage as it is. 

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I'll follow this closely.

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For some reason I am unable to find the 1964 primary dates online. I have a book at home, which might have them, but I won't be back until Tuesday. Can anyone find these dates for me? 

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21 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

What book, it sounds like something I'd be interested in purchasing.:)

It's a massive books published by Congressional Quarterly. I used it to make these election scenarios. I'll give you the exact title when I'm home. 

See if you can help me find the dates for the 1964 primaries in the meantime. Otherwise, I'll have to delay the release of 1964 later next week. 

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1 hour ago, Reagan04 said:

@vcczar

Got them for both Parties:

March 10 New Hampshire

April 7 Wisconsin

April 14 Illinois

April 21New Jersey

April 28 Massachusetts

May 2 Texas (GOP only)

May 5 District of Columbia, Indiana, Ohio

May 12 Nebraska, West Virginia

May 15 Oregon

May 19 Maryland

May 26 Florida

June 2 California, North Dakota

 

Thanks!

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