Best VP Since Reagan/Bush Poll

[vcczar 1,224]

VP Poll

[jvikings1 40]

1. Biden (Even though I disagree with him, he is very likeable.)

2. Ryan (I liked him a lot more then than now.)

3. Cheney (He is way too hawkish for me.)

[VanMav 0]

Cheney, Ryan, Quayle.

[Patine 471]

1. Biden

2. Edwards (despite the later affair)

3. Cheney (he was downright horrible)

[Conservative Elector 2 333]

1. Chose Cheney but I think it's Quayle... My mistake

2. Paul Ryan

3. I chose Biden, but I wouldn't consider him bad. He's just the worst of the 4 mentioned...

[Jayavarman 130]

For better or for worse, Cheney seems to have been the most powerful VP of our time.

[Conservative Elector 2 333]

Btw @vcczar great poll! I hope you'll do more on the Vice Presidents. I like researching on VPs very much. They are way too underestimated in common historiography, although they could have great influence.

[Patine 471]

6 hours ago, Jayavarman said:

For better or for worse, Cheney seems to have been the most powerful VP of our time.

Yes, the most powerful, and with the greatest conflicts of interest, using his senior role in the Bush Administration to blatantly enrich Haliburton and the Texas oil giants, which he had very significant shares and contacts in...

[Reagan04 658]

1. Quayle
2. Palin in a landslide
3. Not even close, Gore.

[vcczar 1,224]

4 hours ago, Conservative Elector 2 said:

Btw @vcczar great poll! I hope you'll do more on the Vice Presidents. I like researching on VPs very much. They are way too underestimated in common historiography, although they could have great influence.

Yeah, I could. Although, they never had any remote importance outside of the election itself until Nixon--the first modern VP. First Bush, under Reagan, was really the first one with any real importance, however. 

[Patine 471]

21 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Yeah, I could. Although, they never had any remote importance outside of the election itself until Nixon--the first modern VP. First Bush, under Reagan, was really the first one with any real importance, however.

George H.W. Bush was one of the main co-founders, representing the US Republican Party, of the international party organization (I can't remember it's proper name) for mainstream conservative parties (also including the Conservative Party of Canada, the Conservative and Unionist Party of the United Kingdom, the main French Gaullist Party (which keeps changing it's name and label), the CDU of Germany, the People's Party of Austria, the Populist Party of Spain, Law and Justice in Poland, the National Party of both Australia and New Zealand, the BJP of India, and a bunch of others - other such analogous international party organizations include the Socialist International, the Global Greens, a social democratic one and two separate liberal ones, all of whose names I also can't remember, the Pirate Party International, and two successors to the old Comintern, a mainstream one now dominated by the Communist Part of China, but formerly by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and a much smaller Trotskyist, Fourth International-oriented group, as well as the Libertarian International, and some other even smaller organizations like that) while he was still Vice President to Reagan.

[Reagan04 658]

On 12/13/2016 at 4:16 PM, JohnnyK said:

What did Quayle do that makes him the best?

I find his commitment to social values and family integrity as key.

[Patine 471]

30 minutes ago, Reagan04 said:

I find his commitment to social values and family integrity as key.

Quayle and other paleoconservatives, like Emperor Diocletian in the Roman Empire, cannot see the writing on the wall that American society has changed and evolved so much that it cannot be reverted back to their quaint view of things without making draconian laws that blatantly violate the Constitution they also claim to hold so dear. I, in fact, use the analogy of Diocletian as somewhat of a deliberate rhetorical irony, because Diocletian spent much of his reign suppressing actively the rising tide of Christianity, believing it was undermining Roman society. His successor, Constantine I, who claimed he had a vision that he would defeat Diocletian and gain full power in the Empire if he fought under the sign of the Cross, legalized and encouraged Christianity, was the first Roman Emperor to be baptized, granted many churches ownership of the land and buildings they occupied, and presided over both the first organized selection of bishops and the Nicene Council, which was the first publicly operating ecumenical council to hammer out differences in Church doctrine and assembled from a much larger available pool of such books those that would, more or less, form the official books in Bibles we see today,