vcczar Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Please post feedback and further suggestions here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePotatoWalrus Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Looks great! Can't wait to play it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 @CalebsParadox Comment on this new thread. In response to your comment in the old thread, the update shouldn't feel any more rushed than the 1st version seems. I plan to keep updating this until Anthony makes an official scenario for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Hoover Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I have simulated this three times, and I was pleased with the results. I took screenshots of after the conventions and the final results for the third simulation. One thing that I noticed was that Trump seems to be stronger, though I may have just not encountered a powerful Trump. The Democratic convention has still been brokered each time, but the actual primary have been competitive with Warren-Booker leading the pack typically (Harris, Brown, and even Schultz made their way up there at times! Though, it is far less likely than before which is great.) I think that once you fully flesh out the Democrats, the negative momentum from the events should even out the general election a bit, as I've noticed that the Trump hits hurt the Republicans in the general election. It's a great update and an improvement over the last version, thank you for this! I'll attempt a play by play soon! Oddities: Tennessee was won by 7%. Texas was a battleground and only won by 5%. Montana was won by 6%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 12 hours ago, CalebsParadox said: I have simulated this three times, and I was pleased with the results. I took screenshots of after the conventions and the final results for the third simulation. One thing that I noticed was that Trump seems to be stronger, though I may have just not encountered a powerful Trump. The Democratic convention has still been brokered each time, but the actual primary have been competitive with Warren-Booker leading the pack typically (Harris, Brown, and even Schultz made their way up there at times! Though, it is far less likely than before which is great.) I think that once you fully flesh out the Democrats, the negative momentum from the events should even out the general election a bit, as I've noticed that the Trump hits hurt the Republicans in the general election. It's a great update and an improvement over the last version, thank you for this! I'll attempt a play by play soon! Oddities: Tennessee was won by 7%. Texas was a battleground and only won by 5%. Montana was won by 6%. Strange. I don't know what to do about TN changing blue so often. It's programmed to heavily favor Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 6 hours ago, vcczar said: Strange. I don't know what to do about TN changing blue so often. It's programmed to heavily favor Republicans. It was apparently a big political shock and scare in 1952 when Tennessee went REPUBLICAN for the first time since Reconstruction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Update: I've now added events for both parties up to the Convention. General Election events will be less candidate specific; although, each candidate will have about two events geared towards them, with Trump having slightly more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Hoover Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who do you consider the "canon" nominees/vice presidential nominees, as well as the canon results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, CalebsParadox said: Who do you consider the "canon" nominees/vice presidential nominees, as well as the canon results? I'm not sure yet. I'll probably figure that out once I complete all of the events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Here's my first playthrough (as the Simulator party) since posting version 2. The election result was shockingly similar to 2016. Trump wins despite losing the popular vote. Booker/Beccera had 5% more of the vote than Trump/Gingrich. I think if this happens in 2020, then they'll probably attempt to remove the electoral college. Unlike 2016, none of the battleground states that Trump won were close enough for a recount. During the primaries -- Cruz and Rubio were doing well until about Super Tuesday, then Trump carried most of the primaries thereafter. For Democrats, it was pretty much a 3-way tie between Warren, Booker and Schultz. Schultz was rising so much that I thought he'd win. At the contested convention, support went to Booker, who was already at the top of the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 @TheMiddlePolitical That's strange. I haven't had an access violation yet with this update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 @vcczar I just noticed this now. It may help. http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/05/joe-biden-i-am-going-to-run-in-2020/21621199/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 17 hours ago, Patine said: @vcczar I just noticed this now. It may help. http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/05/joe-biden-i-am-going-to-run-in-2020/21621199/ I don't think he'll run, but I'll add him in an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert Hoover Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 18 minutes ago, vcczar said: I don't think he'll run, but I'll add him in an update. Speaking of those to add as an "off" candidate, maybe you could add Hickenlooper, O'Malley, Nikki Haley, and Tim Scott from the poll as default "off" options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, CalebsParadox said: Speaking of those to add as an "off" candidate, maybe you could add Hickenlooper, O'Malley, Nikki Haley, and Tim Scott from the poll as default "off" options? I might do that later. I'm trying to focus on finishing the events and fine-tuning the level to make it as complete as possible before adding anything "off" options. I'm not sure I'll add any more people unless there's true speculation about a candidate, such as with Biden. Everyone else that I've included are people that I think have at least a 50% probability of running if Trump's presidency is controversial. I think the Democratic Party is moving Left, so Hickenlooper will probably not have much of a base for the primaries. I have Heinrich as a younger and more attractive person aiming for moderates. O'Malley had a terrible showing in 2016, much worse than even I expected, and I didn't expect him to win a single state. I think Haley will be too tied to the Trump administration. Tim Scott seems possible; however, I don't know if he's that ambitious. He would be a shoe-in for governor and he's declined to make a run for governor in their next election. If he wanted to run for president, that executive experience would presumably help. I might add Tim Scott, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 39 minutes ago, vcczar said: I might do that later. I'm trying to focus on finishing the events and fine-tuning the level to make it as complete as possible before adding anything "off" options. I'm not sure I'll add any more people unless there's true speculation about a candidate, such as with Biden. Everyone else that I've included are people that I think have at least a 50% probability of running if Trump's presidency is controversial. I think the Democratic Party is moving Left, so Hickenlooper will probably not have much of a base for the primaries. I have Heinrich as a younger and more attractive person aiming for moderates. O'Malley had a terrible showing in 2016, much worse than even I expected, and I didn't expect him to win a single state. I think Haley will be too tied to the Trump administration. Tim Scott seems possible; however, I don't know if he's that ambitious. He would be a shoe-in for governor and he's declined to make a run for governor in their next election. If he wanted to run for president, that executive experience would presumably help. I might add Tim Scott, though. Will you bother adding a Constitution, Reform, Peace and Justice, and Socialist Candidate at all, given all those parties have put people on the Presidential ballot in most, if not every election, since 1996, even though I know they all tend to have "imperceptible" or "barely-perceptible" (as the terms pollsters use, go) polling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baathsalts Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 With recent news Biden should be in the democrat primary too imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Update: Joe Biden has been added as an "OFF" candidate. I really don't think he runs. He'll be near 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Update: - Trump and Warren general election events created. - Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich and Rand Paul moved from official to undecided. - Susana Martinez and Lindsey Graham moved to OFF - Joe Biden moved from OFF to undecided ON - Sherrod Brown, Martin Heinrich, Kamala Harris and Howard Schultz moved from official to undecided - Kirsten Gillibrand, Tulsi Gabbard and Alan Grayson moved from ON to OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Update: I've now written out all of the events for the general election. Once I put these in, I will go back to helping @TheMiddlePolitical finish 1960 if he's ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Update: I've not imputed about 25% of the general election events that I had written down. I hope to have version 3.0 up on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, TheMiddlePolitical said: Update on 1960,I keep getting errors uppon errors. Can you send me the file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Update: I have now finished all of the General Election Events. This will probably be the last major update until another possible candidate seems likely or some other event causes me to change the scenario. @TheMiddlePolitical If you are unable to send me your 1960 scenario so I can try to fix it, then I'll probably make my own 1960 scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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