Prussian1871 0 Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 United Kingdom - 2010 (Infinity edition) (Work in Progress) Hello everyone! I'd like to announce the campaign I am making concerning the United Kingdom's 2010 General Election. PMI takes a lot of work to make scenarios given the amount of numbers and people, but luckily I'll be able to use Prime Minister Forever's 2010 campaign for most of that. This is, as you can tell, a work in progress, so please remember that this may not come for at least a while. What's Done: -Historical Leaders -Some Alternate Leaders added (All Conservative 2005 Candidates added, Potential Labour candidates to come) -British National Party and Nick Griffin added -South West Northern Ireland Percentages/Candidates -North East Northern Ireland Percentages/Candidates -North East Scotland Percentages/Candidates -South West Scotland Percentages/Candidates -North England Percentages/Candidates -Liverpool and Lancashire Percentages/Candidates -Greater Manchester Percentages/Candidates -North West Yorkshire Percentages/Candidates -South East Yorkshire Percentages/Candidates -Wales Percentages/Candidates -North West Midlands Percentages/Candidates -Birmingham and Coventry Percentages/Candidates -West of England Percentages/Candidates -North East Midlands Percentages/Candidates -East of England Percentages/Candidates -Central England Percentages/Candidates -Home Counties North Percentages/Candidates -Home Country South Percentages/Candidates -West Country Percentages/Candidates -Outer London Percentages/Candidates -Center London Percentages/Candidates -South East Percentages/Candidates ~All constituencies done! What's not Done: -Accurate constituencies populations Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon 0 Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Thanks you for this! have been wanting to play this for some time now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RFK/JFKfan 11 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Sounds good. Just for reference, AFAIK, the following historical British general election scenarios were made (official or otherwise) for the original PM Forever engine, so anyone who is thinking of making any of them for the PMI engine can get pictures and maps from them - 2015 2010 2005 1997 1992 1987 1983 1979 October 1974 1922 and possibly an earlier one too (1910?) Of the above, the ones most worth re-creating would IMO be 2010/1992 (close and unpredictable elections), 1997 (to please Labour supporters) and 1983 (to please Tory supporters + a close battle for second place in the popular vote). In terms of other scenarios, 2020 has the potential to be very exciting (Jezza vs Boris?) and the Attlee-Churchill elections would be fun to play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Yeah, I also feel like 2010 would provide a good base for, say, 2005. And then so on and so on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manic 0 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 And if you feel that the process of making a large scenario is cumbersome, you could of course use maps from the "regional" scenarios to create a 2010 (or other) scenario that just plays around a region. It would presumably also have the effect of making gameplay quicker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Well I'm about 1/3 the way done with candidates and percentages so far, which is pretty good. Btw, I'm increasing the base organization level of the Lib Dems from 1 to 2 since they are more stable than in 2015. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Half way done with constituencies, with 325 done and another 325 to go. I've also added the 2005 Conservative leadership candidates (David Cameron, David Davis, Ken Clarke, Liam Fox) as potential leaders. If you guys have any ideas for alternate leaders (especially Labour/Liberal) feel free to suggest them, as I'd much appreciate it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon 0 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Add David Miliband as an alternate Labour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Conservative Elector 2 333 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Frank Dobson for Labour could be quite interesting. Alistair Carmichael, Norman Lamb, John Pugh and Tom Brake come to my mind for the Liberal Democrats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Manic 0 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 The last government position Frank Dobson held was in 1999 (as Secretary of State for Health). He would be a better "alternative leader" for an early nineties campaign in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Conservative Elector 2 333 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Okay, it was just an idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RFK/JFKfan 11 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Half way done with constituencies, with 325 done and another 325 to go. I've also added the 2005 Conservative leadership candidates (David Cameron, David Davis, Ken Clarke, Liam Fox) as potential leaders. If you guys have any ideas for alternate leaders (especially Labour/Liberal) feel free to suggest them, as I'd much appreciate it. Labour: David Miliband Harriet Harman Alistair Darling Tony Blair (in an alternate universe where he stays on) John McDonnell Liberal Democrats: Chris Huhne Vince Cable David Laws Menzies Campbell Charles Kennedy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Thanks for all the suggestions, guys! I had thought about adding Blair, since it is a brilliant idea, however I've run into the problem that he wasn't in parliament in 2010, and his constituency of Sedgefield is being contested by Phil Wilson. Since I can't add different candidates under separate leaders (maybe this should be a feature?), the best I probably could do would be "Phil Wilson / Tony Blair (If Leader)", which is entirely doable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 468 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 What, no multiple candidates for the same party? How will one ever do those OLD late 17th-, 18th-, and early 19th-Century elections where there were no formal nominations and you often had two (or more) of each of Tories and Whigs duking it out for choice seats? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Hello everyone! Just wanted to inform that I have completed all of the constituencies and have officially released the first version of the scenario! Go here to see it: http://campaigns.270soft.com/2016/05/14/united-kingdom-2010-infinity-edition/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon 0 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Awesome work! Btw have you added events? Like the time Gordon Brown insulted that woman? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RFK/JFKfan 11 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Looks good. Looking at the list of all the leaders it is extraordinary just how many of them are now politically dead (or literally dead in the case of Charles Kennedy ). The exceptions include McDonnell, Farage, Salmond and Sturgeon...all of whom were considered somewhat fringe back in 2010. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Falcon said: Awesome work! Btw have you added events? Like the time Gordon Brown insulted that woman? I haven't added any events yet. From what I've played so far Cameron starts off with a strong advantage, so I'm not sure I want to weaken Brown. I did add three debates with a 15% qualification mark between Lib Dems, Labour, and Conservative, which will generally help better debaters like Clegg or Laws. 3 hours ago, RFK/JFKfan said: Looks good. Looking at the list of all the leaders it is extraordinary just how many of them are now politically dead (or literally dead in the case of Charles Kennedy ). The exceptions include McDonnell, Farage, Salmond and Sturgeon...all of whom were considered somewhat fringe back in 2010. Yeah, a lot happened in five years, huh? What I found intriguing while making this was the reality of the fall the Lib Dems had taken by 2015, and the rise of the SNP, Greens, and notably UKIP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon 0 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Maybe you can add Alan Johnson to Labour and Ming Campbell to Lib Dems? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 468 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 What about the Official Monster Raving Looney Party? Former Social Democratic Leader Roy Jenkins failed to beat their number of votes in a by-election in the '90's by a significant margin, coming in third in what should have been an effective two-party race with Labour in a strongly Working-Class London Constituency... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted May 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Falcon said: Maybe you can add Alan Johnson to Labour and Ming Campbell to Lib Dems? That's possible. I've considered adding other Tories candidates as well and maybe another Green. 1 hour ago, Patine said: What about the Official Monster Raving Looney Party? Former Social Democratic Leader Roy Jenkins failed to beat their number of votes in a by-election in the '90's by a significant margin, coming in third in what should have been an effective two-party race with Labour in a strongly Working-Class London Constituency... Which by-election was that? I can't really find anything on it.... I don't think the MRLP would really be possible to add under the left-right spectrum of issues, as their positions are nothing close to what actual parties have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon 0 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Prussian1871 said: That's possible. I've considered adding other Tories candidates as well and maybe another Green. Yeah you could add George Osborne, he were considered to be a potential candidate in the 2005 leadership election. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 468 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 My apologies, I misremembered here. The Social Democrat in question was Jack Holmes, not Roy Jenkins, and it seems to have been the "remnant" SDP after the official Liberal-SDP merger. Also, for the record, it seems Holmes, despite high hopes, did a lot worse than third. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootle_by-election,_May_1990 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prussian1871 0 Posted July 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Pleased to say that this scenario has been elevated to become an official scenario of Prime Minister Infinity. Thank you to 270soft, as it really is an honor to have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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