Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Hi, I just wanted to let you know, that I'm planning a speculative 2020 Scenario with Rubio as incumbent president. Mike Lee will be his VP. They defeated Hillary Clinton and Deval Patrick in 2016. As basis for this scenario I'll use a game I recently simulated (results are under the given link). This scenario won't be related to my Cheney series. I can't promise when it will be released, as I've to do other projects at college as well. Perhaps the very first Version is ready tomorrow or not until next week. We'll see. If anyone plans such a scenario too, feel free to do so http://imgur.com/OxWrNtW Any feedback (especially candidate suggestions) is welcome. Thanks! Luki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2016 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Like the idea for sure. I don't however really see Mike Lee being much of a realistic VP possibility for Rubio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yeah that's a point I've considered too, but he chose him. So I give them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beargrowlz Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Elizabeth Warren Sherrod Brown Julian Castro Corey Booker Gavin Newsom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Are you planning on having Kanye West fulfill his announcement at the VMA awards of running in 2020 in your scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Not sure (cause I don't believe he's serious about that)... But perhaps with 1% in all states. In addition at this time it's difficult to say where he will get ballot access if any. We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I hate to say it (as I'm no big fan of his), that percentage MIGHT be higher if there's no other African-American candidates or other candidates who OBVIOUSLY connect with the African-American community (at least the majority of it), Although I wouldn't say racial bloc voting is a thing, crowds in modern US politics are more easily swayed by emotion and catch-phases than the more thoughtful and critical voters of US elections past... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 How many %s would you think is realistic? I don't think he can get over 5%. That's actually another problem I thought of, cause it's difficult to say what's realistic... Another thing I'm not sure about is: who could be his VP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Another celebrity? I'm not really sure on that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I could think of Kim Kardashian, but honestly I think that would hurt his credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I believe a relative by blood or marriage as a running mate is forbidden by electoral law in any case, a law I believe was made by a then-Republican-dominated Congress in 1962 to stop JFK and RFK being on the same ticket for a postulated 1964 re-election bid that of course never happened (who, because of Robert becoming a New York Senator) already had evaded the same-state limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beargrowlz Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Other good candidates would be: Andrew Cuomo Russ Feingold (may be back in the Senate by then) Claire McCaskill Gina Raimondo Primary challenge from Michael Steele Celebs: Coach K of Duke Robert Kraft Charles Barkley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 @Patine Thanks for those information. @beargrowlz Thanks for the suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Update: I started working on the scenario. I only made a few adjustments (years, titles, etc.) yet and listed the candidates in a new way (Warren, Booker, Castro, Coumo and of course Rubio as first of his party). In addition I set Mike Lee as the only VP choice for Rubio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 @beargrowlz Would you suggest those celebs as VP options for Kanye or as individual independents or democrats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beargrowlz Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Barkley might slap Kanye. LOL Kraft/Coach K would be a fun indie ticket I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Ok I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 It would be fun to play as Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren2016 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I've read that given the success of Trump, other billionaires are pondering running in 2020. Something to think about and look in to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beargrowlz Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Barkley is an interesting guy. Very smart and understands politics, he was a Republican and was going to run for Governor of Alabama earlier this century. When Obama ran for president though, Barkley supported him, but I don't know if he actually changed parties. I could certainly see him in office some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Update: Most candidates are added. I think the scenario will be tomorrow or on thursday ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Hi I just downloaded your scenario and although I like the general setting, I think that you clearly overpowered the Republican candidates especially Rubio. Furthermore I think that you should look at some of the Democratic candidates. John Kerry would be 77 on election day, Warren would also be quite old. I would also find it interesting if you would add a "Socialist" party where candidates like Sanders etc could run as an independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Thanks for that! I'll have a look on that, but I thought Rubio would have something like an incumbent boost... I let some other Republicans in the game, for the purpose you want to simulate a scenario where Rubio's stepping down. But I would recommend to turn them not on... The idea about the socialist party sounds good to me. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conservative Elector 2 Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 BTW some unrealistic things happened in the sim I used for this game. Rubio won Massachusetts, while losing his home state Florida and Clinton won North Dakota... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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