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COMPLETED: French Presidential Election 2012

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France 2012 has been completed. (for P42008 engine)

Since the 270admin hasn't activated a scenario author's page yet, I will be emailing out the scenario until then. Please post your email address and I'll get it to you as soon as possible.

Note: This is the 1st Edition of the Scenario. I am going to add more candidates for the Third Parties once I have an author's page on Meta.

If you have any questions, then just post on the forum and I'll answer them as soon as possible.

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Hmm... the issue positions puzzle me. Is this what FN's position is supposed to be?

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Especially Islam CL... and Economy CR ('minor tax hikes and help from EU', her platform is the complete opposite).

Immigration and Islam should be 'R', economic policies more centrist and Libya/Iran should also be CL or L

Bayrou is more Right-Wing on Immigration than her..

Looking at the other candidates Bayrou should be Right-Wing on Budget

Sarkozy is much too centrist

I would also change some of the issues, Gun Control just doesn't exist as an issue because there are no policy differences, everyone agrees on it

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Gun Control technically could be an issue due to the Toulose Shootings as well as the upcoming Arms Treaty at the UN.

Regarding the Eurozone, she argues that the problems are the Euro and the Eurozone's Federalism...

http://www.frontnational.com/videos/%C2%AB-le-vrai-probleme-c%E2%80%99est-l%E2%80%99euro-%C2%BB/

Regarding Islam, she released a statement after the Toulose Shootings warning Frenchmen not associate the shooter with Islam in general. She warned against racial attacks on the Muslim community.

Hmm... the issue positions puzzle me. Is this what FN's position is supposed to be?

mlpfn.jpg

Especially Islam CL... and Economy CR ('minor tax hikes and help from EU', her platform is the complete opposite).

Immigration and Islam should be 'R', economic policies more centrist and Libya/Iran should also be CL or L

Bayrou is more Right-Wing on Immigration than her..

Looking at the other candidates Bayrou should be Right-Wing on Budget

Sarkozy is much too centrist

I would also change some of the issues, Gun Control just doesn't exist as an issue because there are no policy differences, everyone agrees on it

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Again, this is the 1st Edition. I appreciate any feedback so I can get the final edition ready.

Regarding LePen, I will double check to make sure those are her policy stances. Regarding Islam, I remember her attacking Sarkozy over the issue accusing him of being too biased against the religion.

Hmm... the issue positions puzzle me. Is this what FN's position is supposed to be?

mlpfn.jpg

Especially Islam CL... and Economy CR ('minor tax hikes and help from EU', her platform is the complete opposite).

Immigration and Islam should be 'R', economic policies more centrist and Libya/Iran should also be CL or L

Bayrou is more Right-Wing on Immigration than her..

Looking at the other candidates Bayrou should be Right-Wing on Budget

Sarkozy is much too centrist

I would also change some of the issues, Gun Control just doesn't exist as an issue because there are no policy differences, everyone agrees on it

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Some other general points:

starting party strengths of different regions aren't quite right. Eg, the north (pas-de-calais) is a socialist stronghold.

On the national level I thought Sarkozy was far too strong at 30-35%... back in summer of last year his poll rating was stuck at 20-25%. Around the same time MLP was at 20-22%, but she starts at less than 10%.

In my election the total votes came to 90,000,000 (should be more like 40-45 million)

Endorsers would need to be reworked, I had Sarkozy winning left-wing newspapers (who hate his guts) because socialist intra-party primary attacks had lowered their momentum. Also MLP and Melenchon got close to winning endorsements which would be very unlikely

I would change the fund-raising/ad system to reflect reality... very low, even zero fund-raising, so you get nearly all your money from the Party bloc sum (public financing). There is no TV advertising except a few short messages (represent as 'free ads') on TV / radio in the last weeks. To compensate for that beef up both Barnstorming strength (chance of news) and the power of successful/negative interviews.

There are a lot of events that could be added (eg Melenchon surge etc)

I would swap some issues around. Banking and industry (factories) were big themes in the campaign which are not represented. I think even 'Sarkozyism' might need to be a theme. This is the discussion of how much the incumbent is hated (or not) which took a lot of time in the media and which Sarkozy turned to his advantage (he claimed the 9 other candidates were ganging up on him)

Overall though a good and very promising scenario!

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Thanks for the feedback, dr. abc

Regarding...

Starting party strenghts. The scenario starts in May 2011 when...

TNS (A french polling organization) polled that month...

Aubry- 28%

Sarkozy- 24%

Hollande- 31%

Sarkozy- 22%

I'll try to balance out the scenario to match these statistics.

Also note that the Pas de Calais went to Sarkozy by a reasonable margin in 2007 and was a tossup region in the 1st Round of 2012.

Yah... I need to figure out why 90,000,000 people showed up to the polls.

Endorsers noted.

Fundraising points notes, will try to figure out a way to implement it.

As for barnstorming, I'll definitly ramp up the power for campaigning.

Sarkozyism could be included, though I need to find some issue positions on it.

Thanks again for the feedback! :D this is much appreciated!

Some other general points:

starting party strengths of different regions aren't quite right. Eg, the north (pas-de-calais) is a socialist stronghold.

On the national level I thought Sarkozy was far too strong at 30-35%... back in summer of last year his poll rating was stuck at 20-25%. Around the same time MLP was at 20-22%, but she starts at less than 10%.

In my election the total votes came to 90,000,000 (should be more like 40-45 million)

Endorsers would need to be reworked, I had Sarkozy winning left-wing newspapers (who hate his guts) because socialist intra-party primary attacks had lowered their momentum. Also MLP and Melenchon got close to winning endorsements which would be very unlikely

I would change the fund-raising/ad system to reflect reality... very low, even zero fund-raising, so you get nearly all your money from the Party bloc sum (public financing). There is no TV advertising except a few short messages (represent as 'free ads') on TV / radio in the last weeks. To compensate for that beef up both Barnstorming strength (chance of news) and the power of successful/negative interviews.

There are a lot of events that could be added (eg Melenchon surge etc)

I would swap some issues around. Banking and industry (factories) were big themes in the campaign which are not represented. I think even 'Sarkozyism' might need to be a theme. This is the discussion of how much the incumbent is hated (or not) which took a lot of time in the media and which Sarkozy turned to his advantage (he claimed the 9 other candidates were ganging up on him)

Overall though a good and very promising scenario!

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i suggest to add the green party with eva joly to the parties.

in the british secnario, for example, also the small parties are added,

but even add only eva joly will be fine-

of course, if you will add Nicolas Dupont-Aignan with Arise the Republic, and Philippe Poutou with New Anticapitalist Party,

and even Nathalie Arthaud Workers' Struggle and Jacques Cheminade with Solidarity and Progress.

but eva july is relly needed.

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