All-Star UK Election

[RFK/JFKfan]

I'm hoping to make a UK version of mahaadoxyz's All-Star U.S. Presidential Election scenario. It will probably be made on the P4E12 engine (if a scenario designer is released for it).

So, any ideas for candidates, issues, etc? Here is a list of mine:

Labour:

Prime Minister Clement Attlee

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 4

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 2

Stamina: 3

Debating: 3

Prime Minister Tony Blair

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 4

Stamina: 3

Debating: 3

Prime Minister Harold Wilson

Leadership: 3

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 3

Stamina: 3

Debating: 4

Party Leader Keir Hardie

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 4

Experience: 3

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 4

Stamina: 3

Debating: 4

Health Minister Aneurin Bevan

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 4

Experience: 3

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 5

Stamina: 3

Debating: 4

[RFK/JFKfan]

Conservative:

Prime Minister Winston Churchill

Leadership: 5

Integrity: 4

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 5

Stamina: 4

Debating: 4

Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 4

Stamina: 4

Debating: 4

Prime Minister Robert Peel

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 2

Stamina: 3

Debating: 3

Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 4

Stamina: 3

Debating: 4

MP Enoch Powell

Leadership: 3

Integrity: 3

Experience: 3

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 4

Stamina: 4

Debating: 4

[RFK/JFKfan]

Liberal:

Prime Minister David Lloyd George

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 5

Stamina: 4

Debating: 4

Prime Minister William Gladstone

Leadership: 4

Integrity: 4

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 4

Stamina: 3

Debating: 5

Prime Minister Herbert Henry Asquith

Leadership: 3

Integrity: 3

Experience: 5

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 2

Stamina: 3

Debating: 3

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg

Leadership: 3

Integrity: 3

Experience: 3

Issue Familiarity: 4

Charisma: 3

Stamina: 4

Debating: 3

[mahaadoxyz]

I think Disraeli would be ahead of Thatcher, competitively speaking, probably a noticeable way behind Churchill but not insurmountable. I dunno if you'd want to throw Ramsay McDonald into the mix, as he was the first Labour PM, although he ended up getting exiled from the party. Maybe William Pitt the Younger? He doesn't fit into the modern party system, exactly, as indeed he didn't fit into his contemporary party system, but he was kind of a big deal. Perhaps Stanley Baldwin for the Conservatives, as he was PM on three separate occasions? I don't know as much about him, but that's a decent qualification all by itself.

Others who look like they were in office for a mighty long time were the Earl of Liverpool, Lord North, Henry Pelham, and Sir Robert Walpole, though again they're prior to the modern party system. Harold Macmillan and John Major were actually in office for fairly extended stretches, though I don't know that either of them was all that remarkable.

[RFK/JFKfan]

I think Disraeli would be ahead of Thatcher, competitively speaking, probably a noticeable way behind Churchill but not insurmountable. I dunno if you'd want to throw Ramsay McDonald into the mix, as he was the first Labour PM, although he ended up getting exiled from the party. Maybe William Pitt the Younger? He doesn't fit into the modern party system, exactly, as indeed he didn't fit into his contemporary party system, but he was kind of a big deal. Perhaps Stanley Baldwin for the Conservatives, as he was PM on three separate occasions? I don't know as much about him, but that's a decent qualification all by itself.

Others who look like they were in office for a mighty long time were the Earl of Liverpool, Lord North, Henry Pelham, and Sir Robert Walpole, though again they're prior to the modern party system. Harold Macmillan and John Major were actually in office for fairly extended stretches, though I don't know that either of them was all that remarkable.

I find it quite difficult to imagine Churchill being defeated for his party's nomination. Kind of like FDR in your scenario. I suppose Disraeli and Thatcher would be at least competitive though. No one else would get close, although Powell would have some decent support in places. Pitt the Younger is certainly a possible addition. Baldwin....I'm not sure. Yes he did serve as PM on three separate occasions, and some quite noteworthy events occured (General Strike, King Edward VIII abdication, etc), but I would argue that Neville Chamberlain's premiership had a greater impact. But then, if he were included, he'd have to be an incredibly weak candidate.

Of the pre-1832 (the year of the Great Reform Act) PMs, Walpole is the only one I'd consider adding, since he was both the first and the longest serving. Macmillan presided over much of the 'Golden Age of Capitalism', and oversaw much decolonization, so I'll at least consider adding him. Major will probably be remembered as a place-holder between Thatcher and Blair in years to come, so he probably won't be included.

One major figure that I should include is Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, who served three spells as Prime Minister, the third of which was quite significant, as it included (most notably) the Second Boer War.

Now, what about Oswald Mosley? Probably the most (in)famous fascist politician in British history. I suppose I should create a separate party for him. The Nationalist Party? The National Socialist Party? The Fascist Party? Hmmmm. Oh, and current BNP leader Nick Griffin should be in there too I guess.

[Patine]

I find it quite difficult to imagine Churchill being defeated for his party's nomination. Kind of like FDR in your scenario. I suppose Disraeli and Thatcher would be at least competitive though. No one else would get close, although Powell would have some decent support in places. Pitt the Younger is certainly a possible addition. Baldwin....I'm not sure. Yes he did serve as PM on three separate occasions, and some quite noteworthy events occured (General Strike, King Edward VIII abdication, etc), but I would argue that Neville Chamberlain's premiership had a greater impact. But then, if he were included, he'd have to be an incredibly weak candidate.

Of the pre-1832 (the year of the Great Reform Act) PMs, Walpole is the only one I'd consider adding, since he was both the first and the longest serving. Macmillan presided over much of the 'Golden Age of Capitalism', and oversaw much decolonization, so I'll at least consider adding him. Major will probably be remembered as a place-holder between Thatcher and Blair in years to come, so he probably won't be included.

One major figure that I should include is Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, who served three spells as Prime Minister, the third of which was quite significant, as it included (most notably) the Second Boer War.

Now, what about Oswald Mosley? Probably the most (in)famous fascist politician in British history. I suppose I should create a separate party for him. The Nationalist Party? The National Socialist Party? The Fascist Party? Hmmmm. Oh, and current BNP leader Nick Griffin should be in there too I guess.

Perhaps also Victorian-era Liberal PM John Henry Temple, 3rd Vicount Palmerston. He, like Disraeli and Gladstone, held power during the height of Britsh power, and, perhaps over anything else, his decision to stay the hand of the Britsh Empire in intervening in the American Civil War, which almost certainly spared Britain, the US and Confederacy, and no doubt the world, much grief, qualifies him alone.