Mr. Political 21 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Background Information Elizabeth Dole upsets George W. Bush (not so unrealistic as you're all probably thinking)and goes on to beat Al Gore in the General. Gore wins Florida, but Dole wins New York after picking George Pataki as her Vice President and receiving strong support from Rudy Giuliani. Dole's first term is fairly similar to Bush's except for a few major differences. After 9/11 Iraq and Afghanistan were invaded, but Dole always focused heavily on Afghanistan and was able to defeat much of Al Qaeda (not Osama though). She also never signed NCLB, in fact she rarely touched domestic issues during her first term (after she leaves office her Chief of Staff writes the reason was she wanted to prove a woman could be a strong Commander in Chief). Democratic Candidates Senator John Kerry (D-MA) *Frontrunner Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) *Close behind Kerry Governor Howard Dean (D-VT) Congressman Dick Gephardt (D-MO) General Wesley Clark (D-AR) Governor Bob Graham (D-FL) Reverend Al Sharpton (D-NY) Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) Senator Carol Mosley Braun (D-IL) Republican Candidates President Elizabeth Hanford Dole (R-NC) Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) *off by default* Other Candidates Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT) Mr. Michael Badnarik (L-TX) *off by default* Mr. Michael Peroukta (C-MD) *off by default* Who's Likely to Win if I spacebar? Well we all know the bugs in the 2004 Scenario and I have neither the time nor the patience to recreate the 2004 scenario (map and everything). Here's the deal - if you spacebar through the primaries it's about a 70-30 shot that Dole will win (but as Kerry I've been able to beat her). If you start w/o the primaries, spacebarring, its 50-50 (even had a 269-269 tie), but if you play as the Democrat you can obliterate Dole. If you play as Dole you can obliterate the Democrat. When will the game be released? Well it's done! If you want it post your email and I'll get it to you ASAP. I expect it to be on the Theory Spark Website soon. Will there be a sequel? Yes, it'll be after eight years of a Dole Presidency. Of course the little blurb at the beginning of the game isn't enough for me to explain her last term so look forward to updates here. I plan for this to be a long-running series, if I can keep up the support from you guys. Contact me on PM or in this thread w/ questions or concerns. Presidential Election - 2004: Official Results (Map Below) Elizabeth Dole/George Pataki [Republican] (279 Electoral Votes) *48.9% of Popular Vote* Howard Dean/Dick Gephardt [Democrat] (259 Electoral Votes) *50.4% of Popular Vote* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prometheus 3 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 redprometheus@web.de Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYCDEMS 1 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 mdlevy85@gmail.com Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I've sent it to both of you, hope you have fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 468 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 chandallah@netscape.net Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bawlexus91 27 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Sounds great! bawlexus91@hotmail.com Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prometheus 3 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 It plays great, but you should add some crusaders for Clinton. Other than that it plays already very well. Perhaps you should add Gore, Lieberman and Daschle as default off candidates as all thought about running in '04 (or did run). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Oh "shoot" I forgot Clinton Though I may add Daschle, Lieberman and Dole are fairly in line with their political views and since Dole won the popular and electoral vote in '00, I wouldn't see Gore challenging her again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 468 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 And what about Edwards? Where is he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 He is in 2008, and a frontrunner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The story line flows as I move in to 2008. I plan on it to get posted tonight (the story, not the scenario) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 2004 v.2 is almost complete - tomorrow morning = projected completion Where is Al Gore? Dole won New York (though losing Florida). She did not lost the popular vote and she obviously won the electoral vote. Al Gore's credibility was damaged and has not decided to take a stab at the Presidency again. Where is John Edwards? I figured that I'd have him stay another term in the senate. He is in the 2008 Scenario. Where is Joe Lieberman? Though most VP Nominees do run, Lieberman isn't...at least not in 2004. Lieberman is fairly in line with Dole on some key issues, especially Iraq and Afghanistan. He isn't a candidate, but he may be an Independent in 2008. Where is Tom Daschle? He's going to be added in to 2004 (President Dole) v.2, still working on a platform and such. Who's in the 2008 Scenario? Democratic Candidates Congressman (and 2004 Democratic VP Nominee) Dick Gephardt - frontrunner Senator John Edwards - frontrunner General (and Congressman since 2004) Wesley Clark Senator Evan Bayh Senator Christopher Dodd Governor Bill Richardson - off by default Senator Joe Biden - off by default Congressman Dennis Kucinich - off by default *Could be added: Senator Barack Obama, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator John Kerry (he was not the nominee in 2004)* Republican Candidates Vice President George Pataki - frontrunner Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice - frontrunner Mayor Rudy Giuliani (I might make him a Senator) Senator Chuck Hagel Senator George Allen (he never lost in 2006 - Republicans have maintained congress from when Dole entered office to present) Governor Mitt Romney Senator Bill Frist Senator Fred Thompson - off by default Governor Jeb Bush - off by default Congressman Ron Paul - off by default *Could be added: Speaker Dennis Hastert, Governor Mike Huckabee, Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney* Thoughts? Suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L1055 14 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please send me the newest version of this scenario. thegodfather1.2010@gmail.com 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snitz 2 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I would also like a download of this scenario. Snitz23@aim.com 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagan Conservative 4 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I would like it nwv1995@gmail.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
POLLWONK 375 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Why not throw in George W. Bush? He would only be 62 in a 2008 Scenario. Also, you could fit in Russ Feingold or John McCain in the 2004 scenario. 2004 v.2 is almost complete - tomorrow morning = projected completion Where is Al Gore? Dole won New York (though losing Florida). She did not lost the popular vote and she obviously won the electoral vote. Al Gore's credibility was damaged and has not decided to take a stab at the Presidency again. Where is John Edwards? I figured that I'd have him stay another term in the senate. He is in the 2008 Scenario. Where is Joe Lieberman? Though most VP Nominees do run, Lieberman isn't...at least not in 2004. Lieberman is fairly in line with Dole on some key issues, especially Iraq and Afghanistan. He isn't a candidate, but he may be an Independent in 2008. Where is Tom Daschle? He's going to be added in to 2004 (President Dole) v.2, still working on a platform and such. Who's in the 2008 Scenario? Democratic Candidates Congressman (and 2004 Democratic VP Nominee) Dick Gephardt - frontrunner Senator John Edwards - frontrunner General (and Congressman since 2004) Wesley Clark Senator Evan Bayh Senator Christopher Dodd Governor Bill Richardson - off by default Senator Joe Biden - off by default Congressman Dennis Kucinich - off by default *Could be added: Senator Barack Obama, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator John Kerry (he was not the nominee in 2004)* Republican Candidates Vice President George Pataki - frontrunner Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice - frontrunner Mayor Rudy Giuliani (I might make him a Senator) Senator Chuck Hagel Senator George Allen (he never lost in 2006 - Republicans have maintained congress from when Dole entered office to present) Governor Mitt Romney Senator Bill Frist Senator Fred Thompson - off by default Governor Jeb Bush - off by default Congressman Ron Paul - off by default *Could be added: Speaker Dennis Hastert, Governor Mike Huckabee, Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney* Thoughts? Suggestions? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SalmonD88 1 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hi could I get copies of '04 and '08 too? almondejoy88@gmail.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 only 2004 is done, i can still see if i have it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Centristdem 8 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 can you send me the 2004 dole scenario and 2008 my email is historybuff93@cableone.net ty 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matrix1066 6 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 can you also send me the 2004 dole scenario and 2008 my email is matrixbill1@hotmail.com 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ayamo 19 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Same here, plz. adayamothrawn@gmx.de Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Political 21 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 this is the 2004 link. i don't plan on completing the 2008 scenario and i don't plan on updating in any way, shape, or form the 2004 scenario: http://www.mediafire.com/?zyq0elbbdxleals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Repubican 35 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 NomerDuck@Gmail.com 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Repubican 35 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 please send it to me, NomerDuck@Gmail.com 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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