normanwisdomii Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 ALL NEW! UK- November 2007. What if Gordon Brown HAD called an election in September 2007? This is an alternative history election by normanwisdomii. Labour are likely to win this as Brown was more popular in 2007 then but the Tories have more funds and a popular plan for raising the inheritance tax threshold. Endorsers like the Daily Mail are more open because Brown's more authoritarian stance on social issues. The Lib Dems are weaker under the leadership of Menzies Campbell and can no longer gain support from anti-war Blair bashing. This election is won and lost over the battleground issues of Taxation, The Property Market and Experience. http://www.mediafire.com/?829gau6325wb2oy Birmingham & Coventry Westminster 2010. Thanks to TreasurerofthePC for his help with this one. http://www.mediafire.com/?tj2kj3yrz4a Scenarios in the planning stages are... -UK 2002 (fictional) After SURVIVING a heart attack in 1994 John Smith went on to defeat John Major in 1997 and become Prime Minister. While Tony Blair stood at the sidelines Smith shifted Britain to the left, including taking Britain into the Euro zone and repealing all of Thatchers Union laws. He must fight a more Euro friendly Conservative party under Ken Clarke and a centrist Lib Dem party led by Charles Kennedy can he win a second mandate for socialism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasurer Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 I've been looking forward to seeing an alternative UK election, involving John Smith as Labour leader if he didn't die in 1994. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK/JFKfan Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 -UK 2002 (fictional) After SURVIVING a heart attack in 1994 John Smith went on to defeat John Major in 1997 and become Prime Minister. While Tony Blair stood at the sidelines Smith shifted Britain to the left, including taking Britain into the Euro zone and repealing all of Thatchers Union laws. He must fight a more Euro friendly Conservative party under Ken Clarke and a centrist Lib Dem party led by Charles Kennedy can he win a second mandate for socialism? Out of interest, what were the results in the alternate 1997 Election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanwisdomii Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 Well I was thinking Labour would have a tough ride. The tabloid press would be against Smith because of his left-wing policies. I would have a centrist Tory party (under Clarke) slightly in the lead probably. I am currently using ridings for 2005 though which may not be accurate but as there is nothing else I will brave it. Also Al Gore won in 2000 and there was no 9/11 or war on terror. This will make things simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanwisdomii Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 Birmingham & Coventry 2010. To whet your appetites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasurer Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I would say Joe, it's a good scenario for your first effort. It's a really good attempt. I think the finances may be too much, I was left with about 200,000 pounds left. Either bump up the running price of national ads which are free whilst running. Push up the billboard running price up a little too. Also, make Birmingham and Coventry harder for the Tories. I was playing as Cameron against Waltho. Even though I still lost, I still won Coventry 2 seats to 1. I only ended up with 1 seat in Birmingham, but on the campaign I had at most 5 seats and I reckon I could have ended with 4 or 5 seats. At a stretch the Tories can win 3 seats in Birmingham realistically, you're talking Edgbaston, Northfield and Sutton Coldfield. The Lib Dems still held up despite a few ads attacking them, and they gained the seat they did win in Solihull. In electorate trends, I would say drop the Tories down 20 in Birmingham and Coventry. Also, do you have the 2010 version? I can give you the previous election data for the regions in the email. Nice start overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanwisdomii Posted May 29, 2010 Author Share Posted May 29, 2010 I would say Joe, it's a good scenario for your first effort. It's a really good attempt. I think the finances may be too much, I was left with about 200,000 pounds left. Either bump up the running price of national ads which are free whilst running. Push up the billboard running price up a little too. Also, make Birmingham and Coventry harder for the Tories. I was playing as Cameron against Waltho. Even though I still lost, I still won Coventry 2 seats to 1. I only ended up with 1 seat in Birmingham, but on the campaign I had at most 5 seats and I reckon I could have ended with 4 or 5 seats. At a stretch the Tories can win 3 seats in Birmingham realistically, you're talking Edgbaston, Northfield and Sutton Coldfield. The Lib Dems still held up despite a few ads attacking them, and they gained the seat they did win in Solihull. In electorate trends, I would say drop the Tories down 20 in Birmingham and Coventry. Also, do you have the 2010 version? I can give you the previous election data for the regions in the email. Nice start overall. I have won landslides as both the Tories and Labour but I accept your criticisms. My next scenario (2002) funding problems may be similar as I have tried to change the currency to Euros. How are your planned scenarios coming along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasurer Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I have won landslides as both the Tories and Labour but I accept your criticisms. My next scenario (2002) funding problems may be similar as I have tried to change the currency to Euros. How are your planned scenarios coming along? Ok, I'm hoping to finish Glasgow Hillhead within a month, and made a small start on a fictional election. However I've been delayed, I've been trying to transfer UK 2010 to Chancellor Forever and errors keep popping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanwisdomii Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 toying around with a new idea, abandoned Scotland and London primary unfortunately (still going hard at this 2002 election with John Smith though). In 1997 Blair formed a progressive coalition with the liberal democrats under paddy ashdown. They got through a number of constitutional reforms with lib dem influence and Britain now has German style PR. In 2004 the parties merged to from the social liberal party. The year is 2012 and the SLP are seeking their fourth term in office against the allied centre-right parties (Tory, UKIP and DUP) There are only 2 parties(the SNP and Plaid fizzled out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graemp Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 In 2004 the parties merged to from the social liberal party. There are only 2 parties(the SNP and Plaid fizzled out). From the game playing point of view this would be less fun in my view, because by reducing the game to just 2 players, you remove many of the variables that make the game interesting. Also you can only play the game as one or other party. I enjoy the challenge of playing a game to try and become PM, however, it is also rewarding to play the game as a third party hoping to hold balance of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanwisdomii Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 fair criticism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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