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So does anyone want to help with a World Government set of scenarios?

What do people think about the Socialist, Liberal, Conservative and Islamist parties?

Anyone like to work out logos for the parties?

I would think that Socialist needs red, Conservative needs blue, and Islamist needs green, so Liberal would be yellow.

Also, what Presidential candidates could each party have?

For a start, you'd need to put Bush Jr and Clinton as candidates for the Cons and Libs respectively, maybe also make Blair a Liberal candidate, anyone else want to contribute.

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Okay, I'm doing it alphabetically and I'm up to Canada. That was hard doing the mappos, but I think I did every Island.

Anyway, to sleep I go.

One question, do you know if you can have polls close after 2400 hours? Because I'm expecting the last polls in Canada to close after midnight GMT, so I've put it down as 2600 hours, and I'm expecting it to be much more in the USA. Otherwise I will have to have results in the Pacific Islands flowing in around 2am or 3am GMT.

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Why a black helicopter?

I picked Islamist as a party because I thought that it is particularly relevant at the moment, and would be the strongest religious-based party in any global parliament, due to the number of Muslims, and the stronger influence of religion on Muslims then on followers of other religions. On the other hand, for example, the Christian movement can be captured within the Conservative Party. It would add more to the game, since none of the three other parties would be particularly well-based in the Islamic world, particularly the middle east. There is no strong political ideology in these areas, just religion. Anyway, is there really much strength for real Theocracy outside of Islam? And you couldn't combine Christian extremists with Islamic extremists.

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Okay, I'm doing it alphabetically and I'm up to Canada. That was hard doing the mappos, but I think I did every Island.

Anyway, to sleep I go.

One question, do you know if you can have polls close after 2400 hours? Because I'm expecting the last polls in Canada to close after midnight GMT, so I've put it down as 2600 hours, and I'm expecting it to be much more in the USA. Otherwise I will have to have results in the Pacific Islands flowing in around 2am or 3am GMT.

You would write 0200 then surely? Or am I not understanding what you've written?

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0200 might result in the results being released at 2 in the morning... As in, eighteen hours before any of the other polls close ;)

I suggest just moving everything back (i.e: The first polls to close close at 0100) and telling people that the clock stands for "Hours Past First Polls Closing".

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Thanks ^_^ (Any suggestions to improve/ideas, though?)

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There's Socialism. The Red Star is probably one of the most recognized socialist symbols. Arguably the sickle and hammer is better-recognized, but that also has a stronger attachment to communism, while in-game socialism might not necessarily be the same thing depending on the leader... I'm at a loss for what to do for Conservatives and Liberals (who I assume will be Liberal Democrats, since the Socialists are already represented..? Or are we talking classical liberalism/libertarianism?)

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I suppose the British LibDem logo would be suitable for the Liberals if I'm right and they're moderate-left... It's basically a simplified dove.

It's hard to find one for conservativisim that isn't associated with monarchy, though.

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...except that it just makes them look evil: <_<

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It's hard to find a colour scheme that works with bright yellow. If I use a bright colour like white or (again) yellow, it becomes blurry and painful to look at; but if I use black, as you can see, it just looks spooky.

Hmm.

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Thanks ^_^ (Any suggestions to improve/ideas, though?)

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There's Socialism. The Red Star is probably one of the most recognized socialist symbols. Arguably the sickle and hammer is better-recognized, but that also has a stronger attachment to communism, while in-game socialism might not necessarily be the same thing depending on the leader... I'm at a loss for what to do for Conservatives and Liberals (who I assume will be Liberal Democrats, since the Socialists are already represented..? Or are we talking classical liberalism/libertarianism?)

While not a socialist symbol, the rose is a recognised and widely-used symbol for democratic socialism, but I gather that the socialist party in this scenario will include both, for instance, Labour in Britain and the one party of places like China and North Korea, so I think the star is fine...

For the Conservatives, how about a statue of someone like Aristotle? Done like the dove, black, on a green background.

It is the most natural for the socialists to have the red colour in the game. You'd be hard pushed to find any party with 'socialist' in their name NOT using the colour red.

Liberalism, IMHO, should be attributed with the colour blue. I don't have any good arguments for it, but I find green fits better with conservatism/Conservatives than blue does.

I like the style of the logoes, they look professional :)

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How about the statue of liberty as the symbol for the Liberal Party? Probably the ultimate symbol of the core liberalist ideals (freedom for the individual, pursuit of happiness etc.)

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Green is practically the colour of Islam, though... The colours affiliated with political parties change by region, but green is always a common feature in most branches of what we know as Islam.

Edit: The Statue of Liberty is the symbol of the American Libertarian Party... Since I'm still not sure what the Liberals are in this game, I don't want to associate them with the Libertarians unless I'm sure that's what they're after.

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Green is practically the colour of Islam, though... The colours affiliated with political parties change by region, but green is always a common feature in most branches of what we know as Islam.

You're right of course, I didn't think properly for a second there. So yellow for liberalism and blue for conservatism you'll go with, or?

What do you reckon to the other suggestions then?

Aristotle statue as symbol of conservatism?

Well, liberal is derived from freedom, the statue of liberty being the prime symbol of freedom...I do see that it might be too 'americo-centric'.

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I could just take the ALP party logo for Liberal... At this point, I don't have anything better, and if somebody else comes up with something later, it's only a 101x101 pixel graphic, no big deal.

(To me, as a Canadian, Orange means socialism, red means moderate, blue means conservative, and green means ultra-conservative, so as you can see, they do move around regionally ;) The green, in this context, refers to the Reform Party and the short-lived Canadian Alliance, not to the Green Party, which has historically had mixed success at the polls and has yet to elect a single MP, but is up strikingly as of the last election.)

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...and that's just not going to work. The logo's too big to fit in the 101x101 size needed while still being recognizable. I could crop it to just show the torch, but a torch is also the symbol of the British Conservative party. Which means that the logo of the Liberal party would be based on the Libertarian party and oddly similar to the one used by the Conservatives in Britain... Kind of silly, doncha think? ;)

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The Canadian Conservatives use a big C, too...

The ALP logo can be viewed here... Again, the arm and the face are just too far apart to have them both in the 101x101 size and still be distinguishable. (And, before somebody assumes I'm stupid, yes, I did in fact try resizing it. I do know how to use basic imaging sofware tools. Thank you. Sorry if this seems rude, but otherwise somebody's going to be helpful and suggest it. Always happens.)

I've managed to use another logo, though... This from a company called Liberty Mutual (don't tell their lawyers)

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Again, yellow is a god-awful colour to have to work with, but at least this one *looks* like the Statue of Liberty when I'm done with it.

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That's cooler than the dove from before, I think :)

C for conservatives then? The Greek statue thing I was raving about wasn't necessarily Aristotle, but you know the statue, the one with the grumbling man resting his chin on his knuckles...Conservatives have historically advocated classical education, evolution not development etc. That Greek statue could capture a few of those, but it's probably easier to do the c-thing.

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