gopprogressive Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hey all, I aim to get some work done on my revamping of Edward Gaffney's Tokundi scenario. I could use help with candidate names, since I'm not an expert on Chinese names. Though I could add in other groups if you'd like such as Filipino, Thai, Malay, Indonesian, and Korean. I'm thinking there will be a sizeable mixed population, and with a lot of candidates having English, Portuguese, or Spanish first or last names due to the influence of those civilisations on the country. Here is what I have so far: PARTIES: Iron Mountain (ruling Conservatives) Socialist Labor (Communist & Socialist opposition) Liberal-Progressive (Liberal coalition partner) Homeland (right-wing nationalist opposition) Democratic Solidarity (far-left protest party) Issues @issues Agriculture Censorship Crime and Terrorism Death Penalty Economic Development Energy Environment Guanjin Crisis Maritime Areas Military Natural Resources Provincial Powers Religion Shou Lung Relations Social Services Tax Policy Unions Western Relations @end Regions Hollandia Batavia Flores Raffles San Pedro Whampoa Canton Zhou Yeongnam Guandong Nueva Castilla Hokkien 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGaffney Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Good stuff. I'm sure there is a Chinese name generator online somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Would you guys rather have the Homeland Party be a left-populist or a right-wing nationalist one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGaffney Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 It should probably be the group to the right of the governing conservative party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Demographics: Ethnicity: Chinese: 53% Eurasian/Creole: 20% Malay-Indonesian: 12% Korean: 9% Other Oriental 6% Religion Buddhist: 40% Christian: 19% Taoist: 15% Muslim: 12% None: 10% Others: 4% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasurer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Right wing nationalist Homeland Party too please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Do any of you guys want me to combine this with Ayati (some candidates and possibly a party)? Does Tokundi fit an oriental country or do you want somethign different? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz452 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Do any of you guys want me to combine this with Ayati (some candidates and possibly a party)? Does Tokundi fit an oriental country or do you want somethign different? No. I think Ayati and Tokundi should be different. As you have said, Ayati is essential done with the exception of constituencies. I bet if a couple of us did maybe 15 to 20 constituencies, Ayati would finally be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patine Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 No. I think Ayati and Tokundi should be different. As you have said, Ayati is essential done with the exception of constituencies. I bet if a couple of us did maybe 15 to 20 constituencies, Ayati would finally be done. I fully agree with Matty. Ayati should be disitnct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 I think I will add in Islamic Minority as an issue instead of Religion. //Islamic Minority We should embrace Sharia and other Islamic laws into our society. Muslims deserve equal rights, civil liberties, and freedom of worship. Muslims must integrate into our society and reject terrorism. Crack down Islamofascist terorism and subversive activity. Muslims are a threat to our homeland and should be expelled. @ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Name: Abdullah Najib Age: 57 Party: Democratic Solidarity Stats: Leadership 5, Integrity 1, Experience 4, Charisma 3, Stamina 4, Debating 5, Issue Familiarity 3 Biography: Abdullah Najib is a successful oil tycoon and a member of a prominent Muslim political family. He has ties to numerous Islamic entrepreneurs and emirs throughout the world. He fluently speaks five languages and owns many companies throughout Islamic nations such as Babhka, Hayalistan, Rizja, and Shireroth. Najib has established the Democratic Solidarity Party to establish a non-Communist socialist party that has drawn considerable support from Tokundi's established Muslim minorities and recent immigrants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 Okay do you guys want to have fishing as an issue or vice laws/prostitution? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm going to set the election in 2008 and expand the regions to 15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGaffney Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 woo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 Okay do you want the two rival coalitions to be: Iron Mountain-LPP vs SLP-Homeland? Or do you want the Homeland party to be separate, and thus the SLP being stronger on its own? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasurer Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Okay do you want the two rival coalitions to be: Iron Mountain-LPP vs SLP-Homeland? Or do you want the Homeland party to be separate, and thus the SLP being stronger on its own? I'd prefer Homeland on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sounds good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 PROVINCES (SEATS): Hollandia (6) - Muslim Majority, Rural Batavia (10) - Muslim Majority, Urban Sulu (8) - Muslim Majority, Rural Flores (7) - Christian Majority, Urban San Pedro (14) - Christian Majority, Urban Nueva Castilla (11) - Christian Majority, Rural Rodrigues (12) - Christian Majority, Rural Whampoa (18) - Buddhist Majority, Rural Guandong (16) - Taoist Majority, Rural Yeongnam (15) -Taoist Majority, Urban Zhou (18) - Buddhist Majority, Rural Hokkien (17) - Buddhist Majority, Rural Keelung (20)- Buddhist Plurality, Urban Victoria (28) - No Religious Majority, Urban Raffles (24) - No Religious Majority, Urban So which regions should be strongest for each party? I'm thinking the starting seats (out of 224) will be: IRON MOUNTAIN 77 Seats SOCIALIST LABOR 110 Seats LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE 15 Seats HOMELAND 20 Seats DEMOCRATIC SOLIDARITY 2 Seats Unless you guys think there should be more seats... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasurer Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 200 seats is fair enough. SOCIALIST LABOR should dominate Buddhist rural regions, and lead in the Buddhist plurality. HOMELAND would capture all their seats in urban regions, in muslim and no religious majority. IRON MOUNTAIN would be strong in Muslim regions rural, more to an extent but urban too. LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE to have seats in the Taoist, Christian majority and no religious majority. DEMOCRATIC SOLIDARITY should be srongest in the both the 2 large urban regions, and have 1 seat in either one. The 2 largest regions should be the more diverse but with Labor leading. The Christian regions could be bellweather regions which could be tight but favouring Labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGaffney Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 First off, GOP Progressive, your seats don't add up! 214 in total according to your first list... If Iron Mountain is going to be an establishment conservative party, it should be strong among the majority demographic groups, i.e. Chinese and Buddhists/Taoists, as well as in rural areas generally. Socialist Labor should have support spread broadly across urban and rural areas. Judging by the backstory, it seems like Socialist Labor would also have a lot of Muslim support. Liberal Progressive should be almost solely urban, and it should enjoy the most appeal among Christians and those of no religion. It should also be the party of the wealthy urban citizens, first and foremost. Homeland would essentially have the same demographics as the core of the Iron Mountain party. If it's right-wing and nationalist, it's not going to be very welcoming to non-majority citizens, so I imagine that would limit support to Buddhist and Taoist areas. Democratic Solidarity, as you say, would be a Muslim party, strongest in cities where it can fuse its base with immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Sounds good- thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matvail2002 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 To add more credibility, these are the name of the parties in Chinese, Malay, Korean and Hindi: IRON MOUNTAIN 铁山 Besi Gunung 아이언 마운틴 लौह पहाड़ SOCIALIST LABOR 社会主义劳动 Buruh Sosialis 사회주의 노동당 समाजवादी परिश्रम HOMELAND 佳居 Nusa dan bangsa 국토 मातृभूमि LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE 自由进步 Liberal Progresif 아세안 프로 그레시브 उदार प्रगतिशील DEMOCRATIC SOLIDARITY 民主团结 DEMOKRATIS KESETIAKAWANAN 민주 연대 लोकतांत्रिक एकता 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGaffney Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Here are some leaders and my suggested jobs for them. MP Paul CHEN 45 Liberal Progressive 4 L 3 I 2 E 4 C 3 S 4 D 3 Iss Paul Chen, a Harvard alumnus, is a committed liberal. He is eager for rapid economic reform; however, he is also sceptical of Iron Mountain's ethnic conservatism. Eurasian/Christian/Urban Deputy PM Luis LIN 60 Liberal Progressive 3 L 3 I 4 E 3 C 3 S 3 D 3 Iss Luis Lin has led the Liberal Progressives as a moderate and a pro-coalitionist. He must reconcile his party's liberal activists with the generally conservative policies of the government. Eurasian/Daoist/Urban MP LIU Weiming 56 Homeland 4 L 3 I 3 E 4 C 3 S 3 D 3 Iss The Homeland Party opposes the main parties for being too conciliatory to ethnic minorities. Liu Weiming stands for more patriotism and an end to policies that advantage minorities. Chinese/Buddhist/Rural MP Suleiman SALIM 50 Socialist Labor 3 L 4 I 3 E 3 C 4 S 3 D 4 Iss Suleiman Salim is part of the younger generation of Socialist Labor leaders. He wants to move his party towards a more pragmatic socialism focussing on public service provision. Malay/Muslim/Urban Leader of the Opposition ZHU Rongguo 58 Socialist Labor 3 L 3 I 4 E 2 C 3 S 3 D 4 Iss The Socialist Labor Party is the official opposition. It is divided between moderate socialists and Communist sympathisers. Zhu Rongguo supports a hard-line platform of land reform and nationalisation. Chinese/None/Rural Prime Minister Martin YANG 61 Iron Mountain 4 L 3 I 5 E 2 C 2 S 3 D 4 Iss The conservative Iron Mountain Party seeks another term of office under Prime Minster Martin Yang. ....... Eurasian/Buddhist/Urban 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Thanks, it looks good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopprogressive Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Gaffney, I'd like to work with you on this if you can help me out with the ridings and whatnot. I'll just modify your old scenario. PARTIES Iron Mountain (Conservative ruling party) Socialist Labor (Communist and Socialist opposition) Liberal Progressive (Liberal coalition partner) Homeland (Right-wing Nationalists) Democratic Solidarity (Anti-Communist Left) ISSUES Agriculture Censorship Environment Free Trade Guanjin Crisis Islamic Minority Labour Unions Military Piracy Shou Lung Relations Social Services Tax Policy Western Relations Ethnicity Chinese: 59% Eurasian/Creole: 15% Malay-Indonesian: 12% Korean: 8% Other Oriental (Thai and Filipino) 6% Religion Buddhist: 40% Christian: 19% Taoist: 15% Muslim: 12% None: 10% Others: 4% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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