gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 The Republic of Pacifica is a Chinese-themed nation that resembles the Western region of the United States (similar to how Cartazed resembles the Southeast) plus Hawaii, Guam, Marianas, and some other Pacific islands. DEMOGRAPHICS Chinese 75% Korean 12% Other Asian 8% Polynesian 4% European 1% PARTIES: Centrist-Conservative Ruling Party Communist Opposition Liberal-Progressive Party Red-Green Alliance Homeland Party (right-wing anti-Communists) Solidarity Union (left-wing anarcho-syndicalists) Issues: Agriculture Ayati Alliance Censorship Civil Rights Death Penalty Economic Development Energy Environment Health Service Internal Security Jobs Military Reform Poverty Shou Lung Relations (Shou Lung considers Pacifica a "Colony in Rebellion," and Pacifica's international status is similar to Taiwan) South Guanjin Crisis Tax Policy Terrorism Western Relations Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 This sounds like a cool scenario! I'll help in any way I can. Though, shouldn't Pacifica get a bit more of a Chinese-style name? Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 This sounds like a cool scenario! I'll help in any way I can. Though, shouldn't Pacifica get a bit more of a Chinese-style name? Well, I figured I'd make it similar to Singapore, at least namewise. Do any of you guys have idea for party names? Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Well, I figured I'd make it similar to Singapore, at least namewise. Do any of you guys have idea for party names? Perhaps Ji Yaodo (or mash it into Jiyaodo), Cantonese for 'Free Island.' Just a suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I like that party name! Perhaps it could be a regional party allied with the governing conservative party (to be named). Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I like that party name! Perhaps it could be a regional party allied with the governing conservative party (to be named). I have a Cantonese translation program on my hard-drive. If you want any English words translated to Cantonese, let me know. As all Chinese languages (except Manchu) have uncannily similar grammar to English (subject adjective-subject-proverbial-predicate-object adjective-object, essentially, with most other types of word in similar order as well), stringing them together shouldn't be hard. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have a Cantonese translation program on my hard-drive. If you want any English words translated to Cantonese, let me know. As all Chinese languages (except Manchu) have uncannily similar grammar to English (subject adjective-subject-proverbial-predicate-object adjective-object, essentially, with most other types of word in similar order as well), stringing them together shouldn't be hard. So what would be a good name for the Centrist-Conservative ruling Party and the Communist opposition? Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I always wanted to do a real life Singapore election for PM4E, however these elections are very boring (as any dominant-party state) and the electoral system is a little bit different than the Westminster one. Personally, I would like to see something like RL Singapore (with a Chinese-speaking majority and Indian and Malay minorities), where you have a dominant centre-right party with a ''reformist'' centrist opposition and another left-wing opposition party which could be the former communist party stronger in working class areas. I would however put the opposition a little bit stronger as in RL Singapore as Singapore don't have a very organized (or very united) opposition to the PAP since 40 years. Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 So what would be a good name for the Centrist-Conservative ruling Party and the Communist opposition? Tieshangang (literally Iron Mountain) - for a more centrist-conservative party, as an 'iron mountain' is a Chinese symbol of tradition and endurance. Gongchandang - the name of the Chinese Communist Party without the word 'China' in it. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 All right so we'll just call them: Iron Mountain Communist Liberal-Progressive Red-Green Alliance Homeland Solidarity Union Thanks for the help Patine. Do you like the issues? Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 All right so we'll just call them: Iron Mountain Communist Liberal-Progressive Red-Green Alliance Homeland Solidarity Union Thanks for the help Patine. Do you like the issues? The issues look good. I especially like the nod to South Guanjin. However, I think Kozekura should be mentioned somewhere, but I don't know at this point what issue I'd swap out or what other two issues I'd merge. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 The issues look good. I especially like the nod to South Guanjin. However, I think Kozekura should be mentioned somewhere, but I don't know at this point what issue I'd swap out or what other two issues I'd merge. I'll mention it in the "South Guanjin Crisis" by having the option of sending troops with Kozekura to the country. Anyways, Party leaders: Iron Mountain Name: Kang Ying-shiuan Age: 60 Communist Name: Huang Zemin Age: 68 Liberal-Progressive Name: Jennifer Hong Age: 48 Red-Green Alliance Name: Tara Jianping Age: 42 Homeland Name: Han Myung-bak Age: 69 Solidarity Union Name: Tuilaepa Tulafono Age: 65 Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 The rest of you can feel free to make up party leaders, just post pictures and age, maybe brief bio. Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Iron Mountain I-xin Gao Age: 44 Bio: Gao is a moderate conservative brought up in a poverty-stricken childhood. Standout policies include more power to trade Unions, enabling a healthier relationship between Unions and Government. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted July 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 I think I'm going to use the SLP logo for the Chinese Communist party logo. So it'll be Socialist Labor. Link to post Share on other sites
Treasurer 28 Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Communist Name: Enlai Liang Age: 50 Liberal-Progressive Name: Yanglin Hu Age: 44 Red-Green Alliance Name: Longwei Deung Age: 29 Homeland Name: Zhenzhen Meng Age: 26 Solidarity Union Name: Qiqiang T'ao Age: 35 Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Thanks Treasurer! Now all I need are province names... Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Thanks Treasurer! Now all I need are province names... Do you want Wade-Giles or Pinyin province names? Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Do you want Wade-Giles or Pinyin province names? What is the difference? What do you think would work better for a cosmopolitan Chinese colony (though with a relatively diverse population ala Singapore)? I need a total of 18 province names. Two provinces should have Korean names, and another three should have Polynesian names. 4 should be city names. And I'll need 3 subdivision names for 1 city. I have decided to use the Australia-New Zealand map I made for the map. Link to post Share on other sites
matvail2002 803 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I would say that Pinyin is better suited. Link to post Share on other sites
Patine 246 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 What is the difference? What do you think would work better for a cosmopolitan Chinese colony (though with a relatively diverse population ala Singapore)? I need a total of 18 province names. Two provinces should have Korean names, and another three should have Polynesian names. 4 should be city names. And I'll need 3 subdivision names for 1 city. I have decided to use the Australia-New Zealand map I made for the map. Wade-Giles is the old transliteration of Chinese words, a system invented by the British: a la Chung-Kuo, Peking, Cheng-tu, and Hong Kong. Pinyin was invented by China in the '70's and is the one used to transliterate most Chinese words today: respectively, in the same order as above, Zhongduo, Beijing, Chengdu, and Xianggang. Link to post Share on other sites
gopprogressive 1,063 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'll go with Pinyin. Link to post Share on other sites
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gopprogressive 1,063 Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 This scenario is now officially resurrected from the dead. More will be to come. Link to post Share on other sites
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