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Alright firstly I am still working on CSA 1866 but I am also working on Iran 2009 (without vote fixing :D ). Can anyone help me with electoral votes? Is there electoral votes in Iran and if not not could somebody convert these numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_presi...vincial_results into EVs

Ardabil - 2

Azarbaijan, East - 7

Azarbaijan, West - 4

Bushehr - 2

Chahar Mahaal and Bakhtiari - 2

Fars - 8

Gilan - 5

Golestan - 3

Hamadan - 3

Hormozgan - 3

Ilam - 1

Isfahan - 9

Kerman - 5

Kermanshah - 3

Khorasan, North - 2

Khorasan, Razavi - 11

Khorasan South - 1

Khuzestan - 7

Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad - 1

Kurdistan - 2

Lorestan - 3

Markazi - 3

Mazandaran - 6

Qazvin - 2

Qom - 2

Semnan - 1

Sistan and Baluchistan - 3

Tehran - 25

Yazd - 2

Zanjan - 2

131 Electoral Votes. I divided the number of voters by 300,000

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The problem with these type of elections is that they they must be mainly fictional to be adapted for the type of engine and its limits. This problem is the main reason why the current Zimbabwe and Russia presidential elections were never made.

However, if you can work it out, this could be an amazing election to play!

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The problem with these type of elections is that they they must be mainly fictional to be adapted for the type of engine and its limits. This problem is the main reason why the current Zimbabwe and Russia presidential elections were never made.

However, if you can work it out, this could be an amazing election to play!

What happens if you give no one a congressional majority and no one gets a majority of EVs? Has anyone ever done this in a scenario.

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Since all this interest has been shown so far I'll go ahead and talk about the issues I've done so far and which of the big two candidates follow them, others will be researched later. (keep in mind I only started today and as a side note will be gone all next week :D)

Islamic Revolution

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Far Left- The revolution must be immediatly overthrown, violent or not, and replaced with a socialist government.

Left- The revolution must be immediatly overthrown, violent or not, and replaced with a democratic government.

Center-Left- We must work for a gradual move towards more western and secular government.

Center- The revolution was the people's doing, let it remain until it is overthrown.

Center-Right- The revolution should be peacfully upheld for as long as possible. (Mousavi)

Right- The revolution must remain in power, even if it means through violent means. (Ahmadinejad)

Far-Right- The revolution must remain and we must work towards similar revolutions throughout the middle east.

Nuclear Program

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Far Left- Immediatly end Nuclear Program and destroy all progress made so far in it.

Left- Stop research into Nuclear Program but retain research already gained.

Center-Left- Continue to research Nuclear Program but use it only for civilian and energy purposes.

Center- Major funding cut to Nuclear program but allow it to continue.

Center-Right- Continue nuclear program, we need to obtain nukes in order for other nations to respect us (Mousavi)

Right- Speed up nuclear program so that we can become part of the 'nuclear club'

Far-Right- Continue Nuclear program as fast as possible in order to wipe Israel off the map. (Ahmadinejad)

Nuclear Program

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Far Left- We need to befriend Israel and form a strong alliance.

Left- We must be kinder towards Israel but at the same time be wary of them.

Center-Left- We must show nutrality towards Isreal.

Center- Political action against the regime.

Center-Right- Economic sanctions and political action against the regime. (Mousavi)

Right- We must liberate Palestine and this means an invasion of Israel.

Far-Right- Wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews. (Ahmadinejad)

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A quick gripe: Ahmadinejad has never said that he wants to "wipe Israel off the map", nor that he wants to "kill all the Jews". Either the spectrum needs to be modified or Ahmadinejad needs to be placed at a different point on the spectrum. Even if he had said that, that's not a decision in his hands anyway.

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A quick gripe: Ahmadinejad has never said that he wants to "wipe Israel off the map", nor that he wants to "kill all the Jews". Either the spectrum needs to be modified or Ahmadinejad needs to be placed at a different point on the spectrum. Even if he had said that, that's not a decision in his hands anyway.

All of these are quotes by Ahmadinejad

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

You are right about the jews though so I'll keep that in mind. Thanks :D

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You need to move the issues on the spectra to the left a bit - that is to say, Ahmadi should be closer to the centre-right and Mousavi closer to left-of-centre. There are no serious candidates who would agree with the Left positions, and only the opposition movements based outside Iran can make those arguments due to political selection/repression by the mullahs.

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You need to move the issues on the spectra to the left a bit - that is to say, Ahmadi should be closer to the centre-right and Mousavi closer to left-of-centre. There are no serious candidates who would agree with the Left positions, and only the opposition movements based outside Iran can make those arguments due to political selection/repression by the mullahs.

Yet they still exist and some people still support them, that's why their there, I believe this is the best way to represent it.

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Yet they still exist and some people still support them, that's why their there, I believe this is the best way to represent it.

They do still exist, but they attract less support than, say, Ralph Nader in the USA. To put it in context, there were four high-profile candidates for the Presidency of the Islamic Republic. On these high-profile issues, they are all right-wing. I agree that the views should be in there, as there are people who would agree with them, like the People's Mujaheddin of Iran. But calling for the overthrow of the Islamic Republic is as far-left in the Iranian context as the abolition of federalism in the US context.

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All of these are quotes by Ahmadinejad

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

You are right about the jews though so I'll keep that in mind. Thanks :D

That's a common misquote. It never happened. Google it and you'll find numerous sources refuting it:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/janua...07offthemap.htm

The devil is in the detail, wiping Israel off the map suggests a physical genocidal assault, a literal population relocation or elimination akin to what the Nazis did. According to numerous different translations, Ahmadinejad never used the word "map," instead his statement was in the context of time and applied to the Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall, not that Iran was going to physically annex the country and its population.

To claim Ahmadinejad has issued a rallying cry to ethnically cleanse Israel is akin to saying that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis. This is about the demise of a corrupt occupying power, not the deaths of millions of innocent people.

The Guardian's Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word "map" used. The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time," or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word "map" used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at.

By the way, I certainly don't endorse Ahmadinejad in any way, shape or form. Just concerned about issues of accurate reporting.

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I considered doing Iran a little while ago, but gave it up because I didn't feel like sacrificing the realism I would need to in order to make it work with P4E or PM4E. But I did make a map, which you're welcome to use for your scenario.

iranmap.jpg

Above is just a jpeg preview, download from the .BMP link below for the full quality one.

http://etrilobite.com/pictures/iranmap.bmp

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It should be noted that issue positions shouldn't really be "what x or y really think" but their actual campaign platforms or what they 'officially' said during the campaign. If any candidate said "I want to annihilate the inferior races by turning them into KFC buckets" you'd need to note if that was actually their 'official' position or if it was just a "remark made during a particular moment" or a "joke."

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Yeah, as I understand it, Ahmedinejad has only ever said (admittedly using fairly aggressive, inflammatory rhetoric) that he opposes the existence of an inherently Jewish state in the current location of Israel. It's a far cry from there to wanting to "kill all the Jews". Not saying I like the guy, just that one has to be fair to him.

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Remember,if you are still working on this,make sure not to base the game of the election results,polls showed that Mousavi and Ahmadinejad were neck and neck.

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